bmess6 2 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Okay so im a relatively new skater, but im fine as long as im going in a straight line. My problem is using my outside edge when stopping and in tight turns. Does anyone have any recommendations for the hollow i should go with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTB 32 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 I'd stay with a standard hollow unless you're skating on exceptionally hard ice. You'll learn what adjustments to make as you get more comfortable with the basics of skating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beerleaguecaptain 1004 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 I'd stay with a standard hollow unless you're skating on exceptionally hard ice. You'll learn what adjustments to make as you get more comfortable with the basics of skating.And what would you call a "standard hollow?" Hollow is really a matter of preference but anyone on the board would really tell you that you are better off learning to skate on a shallower hollow. This will give you more glide and more lateral mobility. The deeper you go, the more friction on the ice.. so, try 5/8 to start, then 1/2 if you struggle too much.... If you are still having trouble feeling your edges go to 3/8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Roy 86 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 5/8th is the standard in my store. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 Hollow and sharpness are very different things. Even a shallow hollow has razor sharp edges,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laserrobottime 149 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 5/8th is the standard in my store.Do you have soft ice around you? Stores around here (Madison, WI) use 3/8" standard and that, to me, is insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStar77 25 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 The place I get my skates sharpened has 7/16" as a standard, I have yet to try anything different. When my sharpening card runs out, I may give FBV a try since they are offering it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazin 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 I don't want to hijack your thread but I have a common question (that wasn't answered in the Blackstone FBV thread):What's the closest [FBV] I can get to a 3/8" traditional hollow? Is it 100/75? If so, what is that equivalent to in terms of traditional? Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 I don't want to hijack your thread but I have a common question (that wasn't answered in the Blackstone FBV thread):What's the closest [FBV] I can get to a 3/8" traditional hollow? Is it 100/75? If so, what is that equivalent to in terms of traditional? Thanks in advance.100/75 is considered equivalent to 3/8 in terms of "bite" or "grab"http://www.blackstonesport.com/FBV_Comparison_Chart.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazin 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 100/75 is considered equivalent to 3/8 in terms of "bite" or "grab"http://www.blackstonesport.com/FBV_Comparison_Chart.pdfI've seen that chart at Sport Cheks in Vancouver (where I live) and thought they were equivalent. However, when I brought my skates (after SC royally effed them up - took off an edge) to my LHS (a Source for Sports), they said that the closest FBV could get was the X6 (for their stone, which is about the same as a 100/75), which was equivalent to about a 7/16"...I'm all confused now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stryker 37 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 X6 Is a Blademaster version of FBV, which they (BM) actually calls BFD. Not entirely the same thing, Blademaster considers the X6 to have equivalent bite of a 3/8-1/2 inch ROH.Basically they have a different machine which uses a different system to create a relatively similar (although less precise in comparison) sharpen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazin 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 X6 Is a Blademaster version of FBV, which they (BM) actually calls BFD. Not entirely the same thing, Blademaster considers the X6 to have equivalent bite of a 3/8-1/2 inch ROH.Basically they have a different machine which uses a different system to create a relatively similar (although less precise in comparison) sharpen.So pretty much the same as the 100/75 (if done correctly)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 So pretty much the same as the 100/75 (if done correctly)?NoThey will both have roughly the same bite when cornering as a 3/8" ROH sharpening but the FBV will have better glide when skating in a straight line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrangler 157 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 So pretty much the same as the 100/75 (if done correctly)?FBV and BFD have different geometry, which you should be able to see on the Blackstone and Blademaster web sites. If your LHS told you that X6 is FBV, they lied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazin 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 NoThey will both have roughly the same bite when cornering as a 3/8" ROH sharpening but the FBV will have better glide when skating in a straight line. FBV and BFD have different geometry, which you should be able to see on the Blackstone and Blademaster web sites. If your LHS told you that X6 is FBV, they lied.Sorry, I mean equivalent/most similar, not exactly the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 24, 2014 FBV and BFD have different geometry, which you should be able to see on the Blackstone and Blademaster web sites. If your LHS told you that X6 is FBV, they lied.That happens a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrangler 157 Report post Posted January 25, 2014 That was my recollection, and why I mentioned it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites