wheel setup question

[taz_g 0]

Hey guys, I recently changed the rink where I play, and I feel that I have too much grip, in the previous one I was able to stop in a smooth slide, where im currently playing (sport court) sometimes i cannot even start sliding, i just turn , and when I do it feels like the wheel makes little jumps instead of smoothly slide. I know that better technique will improve that, but I´d like to know if a different wheel conf could help. I weight 188 lb (85kg) and im using alkali teams with the millenium x-soft wheels. I tried putting harder ones (80A) on both outside wheels, and its like too much slippy, Now Im using only one 80A in the front , its a little bit better but again feels that the wheel jumps while stopping. .

Do you think that putting 80As in the 2 middle wheels would be better ? or any other conf ? I have the x-soft wheels and the 80As

Thanks a lot!

[Vet88 674]

How you skate, experience, surface, time of day, dust, age of wheels, wear on wheels etc etc all impact on stopping. The only thing I can suggest is that you need to try it out yourself, swap the wheels around and see how you like it. If you have to much grip (wheel jumping) then try the next hardness up or a single pour that is softer / similar in hardness. Then swap wheels around in different configurations to see how it works for you.

[Wicked3Aussie 68]

I'm the same weight as you, maybe a harder wheel might help you.

Rink Rat World Cup of hot shot x 82a & 84a are what I use and recommend.

[taz_g 0]

Thanks for your replies guys ! I´m going to try 2 80a in he middle and see how it goes.

I'm the same weight as you, maybe a harder wheel might help you.
Rink Rat World Cup of hot shot x 82a & 84a are what I use and recommend.

that hardness for sport court ? don´t you slip too much when accelerating ? thats what happened when I tried the 80a in front and rear wheels

[Wicked3Aussie 68]

No I skate on wood an smooth concrete.

For sports court Though I'd be looking at the Orange grip plus addictions, pricey but the quality is there.

[Vet88 674]

On a sports court the best wheels are the multi pours such as addictions, revision plus or rink rat krysis. They are expensive but you get what you pay for. The best wheel that myself and my family have used are the Krysis, followed by revision plus then addictions. Krysis don't chunk out and hold their grip for ages. The Revision plus also didn't chunk out but the grip went off after 4 - 6 months or so. My son stops aka ice style and whilst I'm not as an aggressive stopper as he is the various addictions we have tried all have good grip but they start to split on us after 4 months or so. I'm not saying the Plus or Addictions are a bad wheel, any other sports court suitable wheel we have tried was destroyed in a short while, it's just that in our experience they are not quite as good as Krysis for one reason or another.

[Sprungdownunder 18]

Yeah definetly go harder wheels in the middle , I am about 175-180 plb(78kg) & use 2 world cups in the middle & 2 78a splits on the outsides & have heaps of grip on sports court.Although the sprungs play a big part in the grip I get.

[taz_g 0]

ok so I tried using 2 harder in the middle, it was ok for some hard stops, but felt akward when trying to stop at slow speeds, i kinda got used to slip a bit with the front wheel, so I changed again and put 80A in the front and 3rd wheels, and the softer in the 2nd and 4th , not sure if it makes sense, anyone use them like that ? but felt better, I think that in the future when I get more accelerating power, i´m going to need more grip in the front wheel but for now its ok, and probably for my next wheels I´m going to look for some addictions or krysis as recommended.

[stitchy 1]

I'm in a similar situation. I've only played on sport court but now the place I play at (TSA in Torrance, California) just put a fresh coat of roll-on (painted concrete?). I put on the hardest wheels I had, 77a Kuzak Kontack in front and 82a Kuzak Konquests in the rear, but still too grippy. Every time I tried a hockey stop, I did an awkard turn.

Does anyone have any recommendations for this type of surface? I have some very old Milleniums, white Grippers and Dynasty wheels from my sport court days. Would they have lost enough grip to even try? Otherwise I have my eye on RR World Cups. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!

[Invert 13]

I'm in a similar situation. I've only played on sport court but now the place I play at (TSA in Torrance, California) just put a fresh coat of roll-on (painted concrete?). I put on the hardest wheels I had, 77a Kuzak Kontack in front and 82a Kuzak Konquests in the rear, but still too grippy. Every time I tried a hockey stop, I did an awkard turn.

Does anyone have any recommendations for this type of surface? I have some very old Milleniums, white Grippers and Dynasty wheels from my sport court days. Would they have lost enough grip to even try? Otherwise I have my eye on RR World Cups. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!

We have a surface like that down the road from our factory in Lake Elsinore. We have found that the Shooters or Medium Grippers seem to work best on it.

[jmiro 55]

We play on smooth tennis court like surface and a very smooth painted black top(almost like someone painted it with gloss paint). For the tennis court like court we run 82 or 84. For the the gloss paint deal we run 76 or 78.

[Vet88 674]

I mainly play on either a sports court or poured urethane surface. The urethane is one of the grippiest surfaces you will ever come across and is really hard on wheels. I used to swap wheels out every time when changing rinks (84a grippers for urethane and addictions for sports court) but now don't worry about it. To stop on different surfaces is more about technique than the wheel you are running, the biggest issue with a grippy surface is how long your wheel will last on it. I now run either Revision Plus or Krysis regardless of the surface (tile / wood / urethane), anything else chunks out / loses grip on the urethane after a few weeks / months of use.

[stitchy 1]

Thanks for the input, guys! I'm gonna try some different wheel combos and see what happens.

Vet88, what different technique do you use to stop on such a grippy surface? Care to share?

[Vet88 674]

Hard to describe but here goes for a hockey T stop: For the stopping leg you need to bend and fold your knee inwards more on a grippier surface. If you have a straight leg, you have more direct force applied to the floor thru the wheels, folding the knee inwards changes the angle of force thru the skate to the floor ie the skate is more horizontal to the floor and therefore the wheels will slide easier across the floor. Also folding the knee inward helps to also fold the ankle inward. Controlling how much your knee and ankle fold in will control your stopping power relative to the floor you are on. When I remember I'll try and get some photos of stopping on different surfaces and post them so you can see what I mean.