wickedwrister 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 I know there are two schools of thought on this.1) Stay with the open man and let the goalie worry about the guy with the puck.2) Go with the man with the puck.I play and coach youth hockey and have always been of the mind of the first, but the other day saw a coach teaching the second. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrMolotov 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 The defender should always play to stop the pass across and take the man without the puck and leave the shooter to the goalie. A coach who teaches taking the puck carrier on a two on one is going to have more odd man rush goals than the coach who teaches the correct approach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsGoWings13 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 If I get caught in a 2 on 1 I never commit I keep going back words taking away the pass and I have a very good goalie so im not worried to much about the shot but I lay down at a point so they cannot get a pass thro lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack 44 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 God forbid I ever be the "1" in that situation but I'd play the angles and make sure no pass got thru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hink9 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 make sure to play the rebound correctly also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnakeEyes29 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 Definetly try to stop a pass or go to the guy without the puck because its alot easier for a goalie to take a shot rather than going lateral(however you spell that) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phantoms19 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2005 Always play the pass... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickz 107 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 When you're the 'one', I'd take the man without the puck. Your goalie will most likely guess that the man with the puck is going to shoot. Just go get the rebound and clear it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I agree with all the above, go with the guy without the puck and all, EXCEPT for the last 1/4 second of the play. At the very end, if the puck carrier is down very low, and you are near the back door and blocking the pass to the other forward, the puck carrier can get a good shot off still. You have to at least hold your ground at that point to keep the puck carrier from moving laterally and making your goalie move too much. So, you have to suddenly switch at the very last moment to guarding the puck carrier. Also, if you get the feeling that the other forward is out of position to get the pass, a ballsy move is to poke check the puck carrier, again at the very last 1/4 second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 710 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Most good defensemen play the pass, which is why as a forward the best play is to just look at the other forward and just snipe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ponty 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Give the goalie the puck carrier. Dont let them walk in alone but be sure the other guy cannot get the pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I play the pass, but one problem I see with forwards a LOT is they get too excited on a two on one and will pass the play up completely putting themselves at a horrible angle and past the play. At this point is when I just force the puck carrier into a horrible angle wide. If it's a smart two forwards, just play the pass, but if I can get my stick in at the end I will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack 44 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Worst part about playing the pass is if I get too deep I and up just going down on my stomach and completely spaz myself out of any possible play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
then00b 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I agree with all the above, go with the guy without the puck and all, EXCEPT for the last 1/4 second of the play. At the very end, if the puck carrier is down very low, and you are near the back door and blocking the pass to the other forward, the puck carrier can get a good shot off still. You have to at least hold your ground at that point to keep the puck carrier from moving laterally and making your goalie move too much. So, you have to suddenly switch at the very last moment to guarding the puck carrier. Also, if you get the feeling that the other forward is out of position to get the pass, a ballsy move is to poke check the puck carrier, again at the very last 1/4 second. Perfect. That's what I try to do but cannot do it correctly, I always end up staying too far with the nonpuckcarrier to have a chance to try to knock the carrier off the puck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notorious#29 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I try to cut off the pass while going for the open man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jay 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I try and consider the skill level of the players. I'd say 75% I defend the pass but when I've got a guy that's having trouble handling the puck or doesn't skate very well I usually try to force the pass. I'd say at least 9-10 times they'll completely foul it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 My take is similar to most but slightly different. I try to cut the ice in half for my goalie. Don't let the pass through and don't let the man with the puck cut across. If possible, I try to angle closer to the puck and push him wide if he's on his back hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freq019 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 My take is similar to most but slightly different. I try to cut the ice in half for my goalie. Don't let the pass through and don't let the man with the puck cut across. If possible, I try to angle closer to the puck and push him wide if he's on his back hand. I play it similar to you, I try to take the pass and the middle of the ice away and force the puck carrier to the outside as much as I can without giving up the pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 The general rule of thumb is to end up at with your back facing to the far post at the end of the rush. You can tell where you are while skating backwards by watching the goal post at the other end of the ice, that net is in the same position as the one behind you that you can not see. But like I said, you have to modify the rule of thumb near the end of some rushes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrMolotov 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 To change the topic slightly.... Lets say your the puck carrier on a two on one break, how do you play it?fake the pass across, and freeze the d-man then pass or take the shot....for the most part hockey is a spontaneous game, so do you just wing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack 44 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I'm hopefully on my off-wing and I'll look for a pass but if that's taken away I'll do the look-and-shoot short side, hoping to catch the tendy leaning to the far side. If not, I'll carry and hope the defender comes in at me, then I'll try and cut back to the middle and see what's there. But like you said, it's all improv at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notorious#29 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 My fav thing to do is those situations is this. I turn my head and look at the other winger, and position my stick like Im going to make a pass, then let a snapper go on the side of the net closest to me, usally top shelf. It works sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ambro 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 As a goalie, my brother tells us players (when playing with him) to play the man with the puck and he'll cover the pass. I know that's against what all coaches say, but that's just what he likes better.EDIT - Sorry, that was for when you're the "1" in a 2 on 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaverickFBI 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Usually I shadow the puck-free attacker and at the very end I try to disturb as much as I can the puck carrier while doing his move.But if the puck carrier is the top notch attacker of the other team I shadow him and shout to the goalie to care about the other. What I fear the most in this situation is a snap between my skates, or very close to it so that my goalie cant see a damn thing before the puck is in the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites