Only took 2 months but I've gotten around to respond. @Cavs019 you (and all the people in these threads) are correct. After talking in the locker room, with pro shop reps, and most importantly the guy that has sharpened skates here in SE Michigan for about 100 years (he's crazy but does one hell of a job on my skates)...........everyone confirms what you are saying.............the skates coming out of the Asia's and far east are just as good if not better then whats coming out of Canada at the consumer level. Graf has been taken over by a bunch of $$$ counters and the quality of the skates has fallen in recent years.......All that said I am still very happy with my purchase.