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My toes touched the cap in my TF7 6.5R even in hockey stance, but didn´t curl. I had the feeling that they would be too small for several hours. After one bake in the shop, changing the tongue for the pro version, a second bake with saran wrap at home and a third bake with saran wrap at home after 20 hours on the ice they have a perfect fit.

i did read your previous posts about the sizing especially compared to makos, it was very helpful for at least getting me into a starting zone. I came home with the 7R. i know they don't tell the full fit story without baking, but just shoving my foot into the 6.5's without laces, i could get my foot in, but my toes were actually curled and jammed into the end. Unbaked, my toes are still hard up against the toe caps in the 7R, flat, extended foot/toes. Does the insole sizing have any bearing on helping to choose the right size? i'm actually overhanging the 7R footbed by a little bit.

In my experience, after baking the TF9s are about three quarters of a size larger than Makos in the same size. So, a 7 TF9 will be a quarter size larger than a 7.5 Mako after baking and a 6.5 will be approximately a quarter size smaller. After about 20 hours of break in, my 7W TF9s feel very close to the same length as my 8EE Mako II's. Externally the 7W and 8EE Makos appear to be the same length. I know the 8W TF9 felt too big before baking, the 7.5W felt like the right size and 7W felt too small. After baking and break in, I'm happy with the 7W and think the 7.5W would've been a bit long by now if I'd went with that size.