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What I was implying was not the use of the "medium" forward pitch, 8/13 compound radius(that would be what you are claiming I implied). I was implying a common use of a compound radius with a forward pitch, in general. No one is "dumbing down" numbers. When I first spoke to Steve at Blackstone, he had only 2 FBV's and the way he explained them to me was that the 100/75 had bite in the 3/8 to 1/2 range and the 90/75 had bite in the 5/8 to 3/4 range. I checked my notes that I took while speaking with him, that's exactly what he told me. I'm assuming he used this description to cover a wide range of hollow equivalents as those 2 FBVs were the only avail. I've been very clear to my customers that the FBV 1/2 that's on the order section of my site gives a bite in the 3/8-1/2 range. I call it 1/2 because what else can we call it when it has a range and is not a direct crossover to a single hollow. 100/75 don't mean squat to anyone. We need to make this easier to understand. This is new technology and hard for even the advanced gearhead to understand, especially when most don't even understand regular ROH's. We'll make adjustments as more info is avail. What I do know is, that those skaters who are skating on 1/2 or deeper hollows, adapt very nicely to the 100/75. As for recommending radius and pitch on feedback from the skater, that's just something I've been able to do after having done tens of thousands of radius. In most cases I don't need to see them skate, my evaluation form gives me most of what I need. If I have to make adjustments, I will. In a perfect world, seeing someone skate would be optimal, but not always necessary. I have a lot of test skaters that I use to evaluate, and I watch them skate before and after i apply different settings, so I have a real good idea what works for certain level skaters and what doesn't. In fact I have 5 skaters on FBV's who don't even know they are on them. I evaluate them weekly. If you don't agree or don't like what we do, don't use our service. No one is forcing you to do anything. So just skate on your 9' and be satisfied. I don't advertise on MSH, I don't push anyone on MSH, I don't promote on MSH. In fact, if you have a professional sharpener near you that does what I do, I recommend you use them. I don't know what your agenda is or what you have against me or our service, again, I didn't approach you or try to get your business, you contacted me. Just go play hockey.

Wow, you must be proud of yourself, you found 5 people on MSH that have a similar radius. You get a gold star for that one. We do a lot of 8/13's as that combo works great, especially on the common skate sizes in the 8-10 range with skaters of similar styles. If you are trying to imply that 8/13 is all we do, you are sadly mistaken. We offer a variety of radius and combo radius and pitches and use them all. Mods, let's keep this thread on the FBV track, if you want to move this garbage to another thread, go for it.

I'm not at the store today but I'm sure I have 263, will have to check tomorrow on the 254. As for the goalie steel, I had ordered a bunch and had not looked at the price. I promptly returned them after seeing what they cost. IMO, the RBK steel is superior and no reason to go with STEP, unless you need the extra height.

We get our Step from Midwest who is a wholesaler, I'm not sure if they sell retail but you can try. I've found that they don't keep a lot of Velocity in stock as every time I try to refill my stock, they have to order them from Canada. I try to keep graf and LS2 in stock, but it's getting more difficult. I'm sure it has to do with demand, not much because of the price.

Yes, the 100/50 fits in between the 100/75 and the 90/75 in terms of bite. He got the 100/50.

Your experience is odd, we've found that skaters are actually getting more interval between sharpenings. There are so many variables involved, so it's kind of hard to actually quantify, I guess time will tell. As for my customers (another 82 converted this week) I haven't had anyone come in earlier for re-sharpening (although that would be nice for $$$ in my pocket) than usual. We've renamed the FBV, the UFB! Un (you insert word here) Believable! Oh, ... Fence?? That's so 1970's!

Sizing charts are often wrong. The only proper way to size is to get the actual 3-digit number that's on your holder.

How come people when talking online prices never add in the shipping and mandatory handling fees. You're looking at another $10-12 just for that from most online stores. So when you buy a pair of LS2 runners from HG for $50 and add the S&H, you are getting a pair for $60 or so, and you don't get them sharpened. So when comparing to the $70 the LHS may charge, you're actually getting a pretty good deal. Also, many people buy one runner. If you break one and the skates are fairly new, no need to get a pair, blade matching is not that complicated.

One time, we were closed and this lady pulled up, so we ducked behind the counter. She started banging on the door (lights off, closed sign up). We figured she go away. 30 minutes later she's still banging, even went to the back door and started banging on that. Unbelievable. Imagine people banging on their banks door after they closed. Why do people think LHS are open, even though closed? This one boggles my mind. I would NEVER pull on or bang on any door of any business if the door was locked and closed sign on.

Yes, it's called adjustments. You have to adjust height of holder depending on thickness of the steel. A caliper is a good tool to have, both for measuring thickness of blades and height of holder.

Come on guys, it'd only be mean if it was true. <_<

John, it's real odd that you are experiencing too much bite with the 90/75. From what I've found is skaters crossing over from 9/16 and shallower have found the 90/75 perfect. You have 2 sets of steel, send them back and we'll redo it again, don't give up!

Lefty, had the same issue on the first sharpening but on the second one it isnt an issue. I believe it may take the 2nd sharpening to have the blades set up properly. I will also have the guys do a couple other passes when changing a sharpening from a "normal" to FBV. I've found depending on what hollow is in the skate before the first FBV will dictate how many passes it will take to put the FBV in. Fist time, I'm averaging 10 passes (5 against the rotation) and that seem to work well. Skates like Mission or Rockets may need near 20 passes. I watch the flame and railroad tracks on the stone, when the tracks go away, you're halfway there. When the FBV is in, you'll get a nice thick solid flame at the stone. I think if someone is fishtailing, the shape is not in the stone all the way.

And the Boston version of Dboard! They trash everything, but mostly talk about MILFs

Ok guys for real now is there anyone that does NOT like the way this system works? Had anyone of your customers want the old sharpening back? I want to know getting flack on another board!!! ANYONE??? OTG, of the 300+ I've done, only 1 went back to a hollow but really didn't have a good reason. He didn't have any problems, just had a bunch of games coming up and wanted old hollow for comfort sakes. Before I offered it to the public, all my employees and many of the guys on my team test it for me. I wanted to make sure I got good feedback, as well as being able to witness them skating on it. Hands down, all positive, no one wants to go back. As for the other board, you can't always believe everything you read, who knows it could be someone from another machine manufacturer stirring things up. All I can say is folks, try it, you have nothing to lose, going back to your old hollow is easy should you not like it.

The way it was explained to me, that the 100/75 has a bite in the 3/8-1/2" range and the 90/75 in the 5/8-3/4 range. It's too difficult to explain it that way. nevertheless, I've found that those skaters who were on 9/16 and shallower hollows love the 90/75 and haven't reported any issues. Those who tried the 90/75 who skated on 3/8-1/2 hollows found the 90/75 didn't have enough bite. Once they changed to the 100/75, all was OK.

You aren't supposed to be feeling a difference in bite. Think of it this way, you're keeping the bite you had before and getting the extra glide for free. Normally you would lose a lot of that bite in order to get the extra glide. Well said Chadd! That's it in a nutshell. I'm assuming BS will offer a setting with more bite than the 100/75 for those who want more bite than the 1/2".

I haven't tried it yet, not enough steel height left on my skates to clamp in the holder. I'll be getting new steel soon, but will try the 100/75 when I can because I like lots of bite.. Of my 4 teamates, two tried the 90/75, one loved it and said it was perfect for him, he normally skates on a 5/8 hollow. The other loved it but wanted more bite, so I just moved him to the 100/75. His normal hollow was 17/32. The other two I put on the 100/75 and they both loved it, one was on a 7/16 and the other on a 15/32 hollow so that made sense that they liked the FBV with more bite. Of my other "testers" who agreed to "experiment, all pretty much liked what I picked for them. I tried to get the high school kids to try it but the last two weeks they were all trying out and no one wanted to make any changes till they made the team. Irbinaid, glad you lied it!

Did I show up at the wrong rink? No way I get to that deflection without the FBV. I put 4 of my teammates on FBV's. In all cases, they were faster by leaps and bounds. One older, good but overweight player, was able to pull off 3 breakaways, something he was never able to do before. The only downside to the FBV is once everyone gets it, then we are all even again until the next breakthrough.

Vandalism is vandalism, regardless where it is done. It is certainly in our discretion to file a small claims against the damage. As for the charges, all the customer has to do is dispute them, no big deal and certainly not illegal.

Speaking of flexing sticks. I have a great security video of some douchbag kid overflexing a stick and breaking it. Another customer confronts him, and then getting he gets his mom and shows her what he did. Then mom and kid leave the store without saying anything to a store employee. BTW, nice way mom teaches her kid to be honest. Anyway, store employee has credit card number of perpetrator's mom, and charges the value of stick to her card. So, when she contests the charge, we can offer to remove it in exchange for not turning the video over to police and filing vandalism charges. I should have it on youtube soon, just have to figure way to crop it to reduce timeframe. Our security system cameras are high resolution and take a lot of gigs.

Excellent. And unlike some companies who market stuff without any independent testing, it's refreshing to see BS have all their ducks in a row, with quantifiable data.

There is justice in this world. Did you know that lemon wedges are infested with bacteria. Yup, I watched some investigative show that illustrated that lemon wedges were nasty! :P

You sell smokes in there too?? :P I'm all for no returns on used equipment. This prevents people from trying something for the sake of trying, knowing they can just bring it back. People abuse this. I've heard that quite a few people who need a tool for a one time job will go to Home depot, use the tool, then return it. Why, because they can. Now, HD can absorb the losses by reselling the used tools at a discount. Because their margins are so high, they can likely mark it down 50% and still make money. For hockey, the margins are to small to survive with this policy. Plus, who wants to wear a helmet or jock that someone has sweated in? Very hard to sell used equipment.

We see this quite a bit during tourneys. At least this guy was honest and ask to borrow a pair. Most would scam you, purchase a pair then try to return them after they used them and also lie that they didn't use them.