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1 hour ago, IPv6Freely said:Have they not? I mean, that’s how they get the curves on their sticks in the first place isn’t it? And they can clone curves for pros if I recall.
Now, if you meant doing this at retail... well, that’s pretty unlikely. Requiring stores to have the kind of machinery to make that work is highly unlikely.
I'm not really familiar with the current manufacturing process other than I know they use moulds. I have no idea if there's heat involved.
I was talking more about the ability for consumers to tweak curves by heating the blade and applying force, similar to the method us old-timers used on our wood sticks.
You can technically do it now, but you create micro fractures in the carbon fibre, which causes premature breakage. To my knowledge, baking True skates multiple times does not damage the carbon fibre. I'm just curious as to why that property of the skates hasn't or can't be used in stick blades.
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Just curious.....
We know that a carbon fibre based product can be very pliable when heated and very rigid when cooled, (True Skates). Why has no manufacturer adapted this technology to stick blades?
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Baking will not "plump up" the foams. I'm assuming you are using speedplates? You could try shimming under the heel of the footbed, (just cut the heel out of a cheap dollar store footbed).
Other things to try would be more costly:
- Superfeet Yellow will lift your heel
- shims between boot and holder
- profile runners with forward pitch
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15 minutes ago, iceman8310 said:Do they offer the tracing method anymore? When they were VH, seems like there was less issues
I don't really think there are more issues now. I think it's a combination of scaled up production, and the fact that people are much more likely to post on forums about problems as opposed to how happy they are.
My particular case is a little befuddling because regardless of what my scan said, True had additional two pieces of info consider.
1) I indicated that my current skate size is 7.5D, and that it was on the cusp of being too small.
2) Pictures of my feet on the True brannock, which clearly indicate my size on the True scale.
I have no idea what happened that resulted in such a small skate being made, but I just chalk it up to being an anomaly. I does make me wonder if they are ignoring everything other than the scan? On the plus side, they did build enough volume into the boot to accommodate my unusually high instep, which was the entire reason I went custom to begin with.
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That sucks! I've learned that if you have polished or coated steel, ask the person if they would use a stone. If they say yes or ask why, don't let them touch your skates.
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1 hour ago, oldtrainerguy28 said:Sounds like a major fit error on the scan.
Never had that issue. Not that small anyway.
But not sure who they were able to refund?
Very odd mentioned.
Yeah, something very wrong somewhere. The guy that did my scan seemed to know what he was doing, but I got the feeling he hadn't done a ton of scans, so maybe user error?
I ordered through Pro Hockey Life and have since found out that they do things differently than other fit centres. Maybe their relationship with True allows them to make a decision on refunds? I know PHL frequently has True returns for sale. Whatever the case, I just decided that I'd take the refund while it was available.
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Just now, Sniper9 said:Just like that. Money back and see ya later? No trying to see if there were toe plugs to remove etc. Double check to see if they sent the right skates via the barcode on the skates?
Are these your first or second skates with true? Kind of surprised the store would give you a refund as True is the one that collected your money.
I guess if it's that off there's really no tinkering you can do.
They checked and said there were no plugs, (first thing I asked). Honestly though, they were not even close to the correct length. They pulled out the True and Bauer brannocks and measured my feet again. Believe they also went and looked at the original scans. Came back and said no amount of tinkering was going to fix it. I may still give True another shot, but figured I'd take the refund while it was on the table.
I can see why people like the skates though because other than being at least a full size too short, the skates felt very comfortable.
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Skates finally came in. Put them in the oven, slipped them on.....uh oh.....way too small. My feet are roughly size 7.75, but the skates they made for me were closer to a size 6.5. Even in a very deep knee bend, my toes were still curled up and jammed against the cap. They were so off it was almost comical. Shop just refunded my money and told me to think about whether I want to try True again or try something else.
I will say that the skates were very well made. No excess glue, bad stitching or anything else I've read about. They looked great and were on par with CCM and Bauer.
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8 hours ago, shoot_the_goalie said:It's a moisture resistant, stiff fabric...kinda looks like tightly woven nylon. Not nearly as stiff as the composite materials you see today. Last time I saw it in a retail skate was with the Bauer Nexus 1000.
The new Vapor X2.9 is actually a tech mesh skate.
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One of the experienced skate guys on this board could probably tell you exactly what you need to do. Definitely don't just ask someone to shave down the front some random amount as you'll likely just wreck the steel and waste money.
I believe Grafs were an 11' radius out of the box, so in the absence of better info, I'd start by asking for an 11' radius with +1 pitch and adjust from there.
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4 hours ago, z1ggy said:I see, nice to know somebody has shared my suffering haha. If putting the jersey all the way over my shoulder pads first doesnt work out I'm not sure if I should look for smaller elbows or smaller shoulder pads because putting the elbows on first then putting my arms through worked fine.
One of the guys I play with has trouble pulling his sweater on over his shoulder pads. He has started laying the pads inside the sweater, then pulling them over his head together. Seems to work for him.
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36 minutes ago, caveman27 said:I wear the "OG" JetSpeed. I bought them on clearance after the FT1's had been introduced. It's their top-of-the-line, where CCM has intermediate and beginner versions of that skate.
So, there's a difference between skating with all laces loose and not tying to the top eyelet. Not sure if you are equating that to be the same.
Not at all. Just pointing out that "top of the line" is not synonymous with "super stiff". In fact, the OG Jetspeed is probably closer in stiffness to the 3rd price point in the Bauer 1S and 1X lines.
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7 minutes ago, caveman27 said:You mean Connor McDavid? He's wears CCM JetSpeed. That's the top end, unless he's upgraded to FT2 or whatever it is now.
Unless he has changed this season, McDavid wears the OG Jetspeed which is not really very stiff. He also skates with the top eyelet undone.
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Pretty interesting discussion. When I was a teenager, I worked as an instructor at a hockey school run by a former NHL player. The first thing he did when a new group of kids showed up was explain that they should not be tying their skates too tightly. He then had the instructors unlace our skates and run through a couple of drills to demonstrate that the laces are really just there to keep your skates on.
The first time you do it is unnerving because you fear that you might break your ankle. After a few minutes you relax and it gets easier. I have no idea if there is any real benefit, but it does let me know if I'm not centred over the blade.
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16 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:Probably better to ask the store.
This is quickly devolving into a SMUesque rant so I'll just say one final time, when I realized I was not receiving updates that I should be, my first action was to contact the store. My second action was to go into the store again. Next was trying the HO of PHL, as they apparently submit the orders. Fourth action was to contact True to ensure I knew exactly what I had to push PHL to do. Both PHL and True are failing on the customer service here.
While it may not be evident by my posts, I've been very laid back in my communication with both parties. Not pushing and being pleasant. At the end of the day, I forked over $1,100 dollars and have no indication that anything has been done to date.
Hopefully everything will go smoothly and I'll finally have a skate that doesn't hurt. On the other hand, if I get a call in a week saying there was an issue and I need to be scanned again, I will be pretty pissed off.
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2 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:LOL okay
Not sure if you're mocking me or not, but either way I don't mind. My email to True was just asking them what I need to request of PHL to ensure I begin getting updates. I wasn't asking True to take any action or provide any updates.
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1 minute ago, IPv6Freely said:To be clear though, it’s not on True to be interacting directly with the customer. So it seems like your expectations may be a bit higher than they should be.
Nope, I simply went to their website and used the "contact us" info to send them an email. It's absolutely unacceptable for them not to respond to an email sent following the instructions they've provided. Even a "we can't help you" reply would be ok. Radio silence is not ok.
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22 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:Seems more like a PHL thing than true. Esp if they didn't send the info to true yet.
Agreed. My issue with True is that they have ignored my attempts to contact them.
To reiterate, I'm not concerned about delivery time as I fully expected it to take several weeks. What I am concerned about is my order falling into the abyss and being unnecessarily delayed. I've read more than one account of True and the Fit Centre failing to communicate effectively, ( things like problems with the initial scan, etc.).
Also, part of the "custom experience" is getting the email updates. It's fun to see your order move through the system.
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I personally think the majority of skates on the market are too stiff for the vast majority of skaters. I'm surprised that none of the manufacturers have taken a modular approach similar to Bauer's adjustable tendon guard. No idea if the engineering is feasible, but some sort of adjustable inserts in the ankle area is what I envision.
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Looks like a paintball vest. 😄
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1 hour ago, SkateWorksPNW said:email skatesales@true-sports.com with your order info, and they will give you an ETA.
That is the email address that is ignoring me.
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Probably be easier to use some orange tape. Just peel it off after the season.
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On 9/19/2019 at 2:56 PM, no21kyle said:I just got shipment notification that they're on their way to my LHS. I did the fitting on Monday. Jesus that's a fast turnaround.
Pretty unimpressed with Pro Hockey Life and True at this point. I ordered my skates one day before @no21kyle. His are already on the way to him, but I can't even get confirmation that my order has been processed. PHL tells me that the orders go through their HO, and that they've been instructed not to enter customer emails into the True order system. That's pretty stupid as it denies their customer the opportunity to get the full experience. True won't even answer an email submitted through their "contact us" email address, (4 days without an answer even though they say one business day).
I knew the skates could take several weeks and that's not my issue. I just want to be informed of my order status.
@oldtrainerguy28 I guess I should have made the 45 minute drive to have you fit me.
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Your foot sounds like a perfect match for the Tacks line.
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Thermoformable Stick Blades - Why Not?
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Lots of interesting opinions here, but the discussion seems to have drifted a bit from my original question. People are focusing on the idea of taking a straight blade and turning it into a Crazy Ovi, (or whatever other curve you can think of), but I was thinking about much smaller modifications. For example, I'd love to be able to take a P92 and just close up the face a bit.
Reading through the posts, I think @JR Boucicaut comment about the foams currently in use may be the key. These foams are meant to provide rigidity and are likely not thermally reactive at all.