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Everything posted by z1ggy
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Mounting holders on hockey skates for over pronation
z1ggy replied to smu's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Do you remember what the exercises were? As far as the no/loose lacing, how many minutes per session and what kind of skating did you do? -
I'm hoping that my local store will still have the 8.5D in stock in a few weeks so I can return mine if the price ends up going down a bunch once FT2 is released. I'm pretty happy with FT1 and it's broken in decently after just 4 skates, so I don't mind dealing with that again if I can save some money.
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I concur. 8D in Mako, 8.5D FT1. I'd go up a half size and try the fit again.
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That's what I've heard, too... but I do tend to prefer a firmer feel to my insole as well. If SP2.0 is softer I may not like it. I've felt them in person and they felt fairly rigid, so I may give them a shot. I'll see after tonight if my SF still give me issues.
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Do you mean the ones that come with the FT1? I have the orange "medium" ones.... not the Orthomove ones. I've also heard the original speedplates crack a bit after a few months? Not sure if that's the norm or not... I tend to take negative reviews online with a grain of salt.
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That's me with the toe cap thing. Baking a second time helped a little bit because my heel might have sat in a little deeper into the pocket but now I'm getting a blister on my right arch area that I didn't get the first time out. May try the aftermarket CCM footbeds I got in my game tomorrow after I walk around in them a little bit tonight. Otherwise if those don't feel good then Speedplate may be in my future. Or Trues. lol
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Do you still feel they support your arches a bit though? Do you suffer at all from any kind of flat feet or over pronation? Only reason I use the SF is because they say it helps correct mild over pronation issues to get feet better aligned (which I suffer from). I like the idea of the insole being a little grippy, I do find my right foot slides around just a bit.
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Doesn't bother me lol. What about them don't you like?
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Can you compare them to SF? I've been in the SF for probably... over 10 years? or about ten years give or take. I like the idea of molding an insole to ones foot but I also think that if it molded to people with flatter feet, it wouldn't quite provide the support needed? At $50 it's sort of a pricey experiment for me right now.
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Am I missing out on something by not using the liz skin or similar product? I just use cloth tape 😕 Play 2x a week and my current gloves and stick are fine. Don't feel like I'm losing grip and I think before my current stick, my last one that tape job lasted me at least a year, if not more.
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That in just in general Vapors have a weird fit now. D is extremely narrow and murders my forefoot and EE makes the heel sloppy. I've tried the past 4 gens of Vapor on and I haven't kept any on my foot for longer than 15 seconds. The Mako toe box is a thing of beauty and I'm honestly not sure why CCM wouldn't try to copy it as much as possible. Nobody's damn foot is shaped like a upside down "U". I'm going to have to try and see if I can punch out the spot right where cap meets the boot otherwise I don't know if my pinky toe will be able to last very long.
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Can confirm after coming from Mako II's... Nothing else out there fits like it. I have no experience with True but from what I hear it's got that same anatomical fit as the Mako. Biggest difference from Bauer, CCM etc will be toe box. Now that I'm in FT1 I really miss that Mako toe box. If you slapped that on my FT1's I would be thrilled.
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Got the FT1's on ice today for the first time. I notice my right heel not 100% locked in like the left... I think it's actually because the heel padding needs to break in more and let me ankle/heel sink in back and down a little bit more. I'm also not used to the shape of the toe box coming from Mako which is more more anatomical and has some padding built in. Hot spots right where my pinky toe is... pretty much right where the toe box meets the boot, unsure if I'll be able to punch that. Going to give them at least 4 or 5 skates (prob 1-2 bakes, too) and then go try on and hopefully get into baked FT2's. If the heel pocket is "massively" bigger then that won't work either, but a hint more width in the toe box would be welcome. Also as an aside, is the radius of the stock steel 11'? I believe I had a stock 10' on my Mako with step steel, and for the first 10 minutes or so it was like being on roller blades out there. Got used to it though and now I kind of like it. My turns didn't seem to suffer much loss of radius but they were CRISP. The ice was ripping loudly and I felt insanely stable.
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Well, logically it makes sense to do what you've described due to cost and manufacturing reasons. Will CCM still offer the 3D system on the 490? And for arguments sake, let's pretend the 490 also fits a hair wider in the heel area than FT1 - Would the 3D fit be able to negate any voids as opposed to "creating" more space like punching would (although I may need a little of that "punching" near my 5th met bone and outside of big toe knuckle)? Edit: Purchased FT1's last night. Didn't love them until I baked... Now they feel pretty good. Going to wear them around all week and then give them a skate this weekend. Probably will re-bake again after. Apparently the 90 day money back thing still applies, so if I don't love them I will return them and try FT2's or throw down for True's if I don't really feel like it's an awesome fit after a bake. Just can't deal with my Mako's anymore, giving me major foot pain and numbness in one of my toe. May try different footbeds in the Mako before moving on to FT2 or True if FT1's aren't working.
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Will the FT490 fit like FT1? "Rumor" is the heel area of FT2 was widened a touch due to player feedback. However, FT1 was like the only skate on retail that offered a narrow enough heel for me while giving enough room mid foot and volume wise. Vapor was narrow in the heel but also murdered the rest of my foot, and EE width vapor was actually too wide in the heel. If FT2 Heel got bigger it may not be ideal for me anymore. I can of course get FT1 but I want to do the custom 3D fit process because I've got some weird foot bones, etc. I can always punch but I did that with my Mako's and it took over 3 months to really get the fit correct. I also assume CCM has made some improvements to the FT1 design such that upgrading to FT2/490 could be worth it.
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That's my issue... my Mako's really starting to break down on me. I have a few weird boney protrusions on my foot so I do probably want to use the 3D scan fit tool. Have a little wider forefoot myself but my heel is so narrow and my foot volume so low that Supreme's or AS1 is just too big. 1X too narrow in the forefoot... but then DD too big, so on and so on. Glad to hear the Jetspeed is working out for another Mako user. How'd you feel about the overall pitch of the FT1 boot & holder? I had my Mako's fitted with neutral step steel and small shims under my front tower because I felt the pitch was really aggressive. Much happier with this pitch now.
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Anybody coming from Mako I/II go into FT1 or plan to go into FT2? Any thoughts/feed back on fit etc would be helpful. Thx.
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Those look like Mako's had a love child with some Jetspeeds or something.... haha. Very interesting...Could it possibly some kind of prototype? Toe caps look just like my Mako's but obviously the "outsole" and QP is very different, along with eyelets.
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Funny coincidence, I'm going to rebake mine tonight at the recommended spec above. I bought some clamps from hardware store to try and really dial in my ankle/heel fitment... Can you squeeze on that hard carbon fiber heel area with clamps right after the bake? I've used a heat gun on the boot before to press and punch in little areas on the sides, but I'm trying to use these clamps to press in as much of the heel/ankle area as possible. Don't want to crack or break these in the process.
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Paging Dr Boucicaut - Please tell me what you'd need from me in order to make this happen. I've got pics of said issues, etc. Looking to try to fix this soon if possible.
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After talking with somebody, I've been advised to NOT let hockey monkey touch my Mako's as far as fixing the holder issue. Since this means shipping my skates somewhere... can somebody suggest a shop in the US that would be the best place to send these? If somebody will know who does quality skate repair its gotta be here on MSH.
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Not to be rude, trying to help - Step 1) Take out cell phone, and take photos Step 2) Go on the internet, go to Imgur.com and make an account Step 3) Download the imgur app for your phone Step 4) Use app to upload photos to your imgur account Step 5) Use the links provided in Imgur to post embedded photos here This should take you all of 10 minutes.
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It's certainly not mental as I measured the offset with my tape measure. The left skate is installed about 1/8'' closer to the toe than the right one (not sure which is actually correct) and the rear tower is about 1/16 to 3/16 closer to the outside of the boot than the right holder's set up. Since the left skate doesn't feel balanced like the right one, I assume the entire holder is done improperly. For the past 4 years, I thought it was all in my head like you said ... but then I had to measure and find out it was real. I'll have to see what Hockey Monkey says with regards to filling the holes and redrilling. Now that I've confirmed my suspicion I feel the imbalance even more so when I am out there.
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Anyone else experience their holders being installed slightly crooked? I've got pics I can post if need be, but I measured both my holder placement and they are different. The left skate holder is closer to the toe of the boot than the right, and also it's slightly skewed in the back toward the outside of the heel. This makes it tough to get my skate blade flat on the ice and also I've got to work just a hair harder to get on the outside edge. Called hockey monkey to see if they can fix but I'm not hopeful. They need to be moved less than the width of a rivet, so I'm not quite sure how that would work. It's a shame too because they are pretty much a perfect form fit for my foot. So much better than my old Vapors from 2008. I'm considering maybe FT1's but it's extremely unlikely they'll fit as good. Also considering VH/True but I'm reading some horror stories over on that thread... For all the money they are worth people seem to be having some issues.
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Not an expert but have to agree with the commentors here - Looks like a poor fit and that because of a poor fit (loose near the top of the ankle area) here's wrenching the crap out of the skate to tighten it up enough when playing. Seems like it's maaaaybe True's fault for making a poorly fit skate, but the OP should not have worn and played on these for 8 months. Almost immediately he should have noticed poor/loose fit. Shame because he says down below he's not even going to bother trying to get it fixed. Somewhat odd that True isn't offering to at least repair for free. Also, I say above about guys saying True doesn't make totally custom lasts anymore... this other person seems to think the same - "One of the shops I hang out at. Lots of rivet issues. There’s been some threads on here too about other wear issues. My guess is it’s biased to people complaining. Now that they’re not doing custom lasts (I’ve heard) I feel like I’m seeing people with more fit issues. Nick G in this forum has had a couple of pairs. He’s a good one to weigh in."