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z1ggy
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As promised, here are some pics and my initial review of the skates. Will be getting them on ice tomorrow, if not then some time next week. From what I can see, my skates have pretty much 0 QC issues. The biggest thing I can see is what looks to be some glue/epoxy that dripped on to my toe cap, which I pictured above. All my rear tower rivets are copper thanks to the awesome crew at my hockey shop. When I got these on my feet after the bake, the length front to back was spot on... I did not experience any weird length differences or hot spots. Crazy comfortable right out of the box. I will say though... they were just a bit too roomie as far as volume in my upper ankle and mid foot went, heel lock was good but not great. We let them sit in the shop's fridge for an hour and I went to get lunch. I came back, we heated them up with a heat gun and put some C clamps on the looser areas, then let them sit for a bit. That helped quite a bit as these skates prettttyyy much turn into playdough when heated up then freeze into position once they cool down. I'm going to take my heat gun out tonight and use some Saran wrap or an ace bandage to wrap around my ankle some more and just really try to get these as molded to my foot as possible. One major thing I feel is the blade under my foot. I'm like hyper aware where the steel is in relation to my foot so much so than with FT1 or FT2. I also went down to 5/8 hollow from 1/2.
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Mine took 4 weeks. With all good things comes patience. They could have had a weird down day in the shop and managed to push this persons order right through.
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The last they were made from is probably larger than your foot width wise. Ideally you get sized up and scanned for them since each pair is different. I believe I read the new True runner is a dual 9/10' radius, and I believe the Mako is just a single 9'. Pitch very similar, too.
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My last ~ 10 years of skates have been: Vapor XXX ---> Mako II ----> FT1 ----> FT2 ---> True If you were an EE in the Mako, you'll still probably be Ok in FT1/2 EE but also try Supremes & AS1 in D width. I gotta say though my friend.... none of those fit as well as the Mako. FT1/2 are very narrow in the toes, I had to go up a half size to fit in them properly, which then gives me some other issues. The above response is probably the most sound; search high and low for used Mako's if yous are messed up or potentially shell that $$ out for True.
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Mine came in and are now mounted up with blacksteel and XS holders. I am picking up on Saturday... WIll post picks and give thoughts! Will be skating in them Sunday.
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My guess is they didn't order the holders/runners right away.
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My boots are in but somehow the CCM holder and step steel didn't come in according to the shop (not sure how holders and runners would take 4+ weeks to ship). Hopefully will be picking them up next weekend. I will provided detailed thoughts and pictures since I'm sure there are a lot of lurkers who read this thread and use it as a guide on whether or not to buy. At least... I know I did.
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True that. I don't even lace the top eyelet of my FT2's. But... I'm about 195lb and I skate pretty hard in mine. I like the overall stiffness of the boot, although I would never go stiffer than this.
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I think most ppl here recommend going retail if they fit really well. For me... I've tried every skate that's come out and the only thing that came close was Jetspeed. Even then, My FT2 aren't perfect but were the best of all retail so I got them, plus I ordered True's because I still want a better fit. I was sized up and my right foot was like an 8.75 and my left was like 8.6. In almost all skates I either have to have crushing foot pain, or a sloppy toe/heel area. Chose 9's because I didn't want crushing foot pain. Has almost nothing to do with my skill level and how much I play, too. I want to play to the fullest of whatever skill I have, regardless if I'm on the ice with guys who played D1 puck or some random joe who can't even skate. I feel like skates are really the only thing I'd spend big bucks on. Padding, sticks... all that isn't making any difference for me really if I'm not skating.
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Has or is anybody tracking this so called QC issue with time of year? I wonder if more issues pop up during the NHL season than they would say if you ordered skates between June and Sept?
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I understand your point, I and I agree it's lame something costing $1000 and brand new should be defect free. They don't have rigorous QC though I would assume... and if they did I bet they'd cost way more. Having the tongue come out is more like having your engine gasket leak after driving it 5 miles. However, with cars... they almost certainly run and check the engine and all major components prior to delivery. In my company, we build electric machinery and we test them for at least 3-4 hours prior to delivery and there's dozens of QC paper work. These are hockey skates so it's unlikely they are "test driving" these out before they get boxed up. I assume the skates have to be built to some kind of drawing or spec of some sort, then probably checked quickly for fit and finish. With the number of skates in the NHL and players who make millions of dollars putting their trust in True still, the quality issues must be few and far. Maybe players have 2 or 3 back up pair in case these things like tongue coming out happen, idk.
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I always expect to have to tweak skates a bit and that they'll never be perfect right away. While it's pretty triggering to see a tongue tab break off.... it's like a 10 minute fix no? Velco pad, epoxy & secure that while it dries. I probably spend 4 hours tweaking my Mako's when I got them originally to fit my dang foot properly. Heating.. punching... The towers were also misaligned. My FT2's so far have been pretty much flawless which I'm surprised by. FT1's had stitching coming loose in a few spots after about 10hrs.
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I see.. But what do you mean by reporting it to the shop? Didn't you get scanned at a shop and then go in to get them heat molded to your feet when they first came in? Do you mean you saw small issues well after the fact with use?
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This shop has done over 500 pair and they said problems are rare. Perhaps they have a better relationship, who knows. So far, the only negative I ever hear is from ppl here. I've met probably ten guys who use True and none have complained.
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I hope I don't get a bad QC'ed job 😧 mine are due in a few weeks. Also gonna suck to drive the 80 minutes into NYC to get them only to look down at poor workmanship. I would hope the shop would not drag me in if that were the case. I have FT2 as "backups" but I was hoping to just return them in the 90 day window once I got the True's. Might return them for 8.5's anyway as I feel the sizing changed every so slightly with FT2 and 9's (which I had in FT1) are a hair big.
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Jeeeeeeeeeez that looks wild.
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I mean, for me the sharpening thing is more about convenience than cost. I usually either send my steel out or I'm forced to drive to a local shop and get it done which in both cases is kind of annoying to me. If I can go many months instead of weeks on a sharpening, I'm all about it. Usually only skating 2x a week.
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I'll probably start at 5/8'' for now on the stock XS steel but might move to 3/4'' if I end up getting Blacksteel.
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Anybody here have to get a less sharp profile after going True's? Was talking to a kid (yet another True lover) and he said he had to go from 5/8 to 1'' after getting the skates because he felt "his energy transfer was so much better". Not a big kid either... I weigh 195lb and use a 1/2 but I tend to like to dig in a little bit more.
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I may order some step black steel. Just a quick call to my pro shop and I'll let them sort out which size to get.. No idea what size I'm even getting to be honest so, don't know what holder size they went with.
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Got my True scan done today. Getting them with XS holder and the stock steel for now... Might toss Step in later. 3-4 week lead time, I'm guesing closer to the 4 weeks
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Getting my fitting around 1pm so... while not later on in the day it's at least not in the very morning. Will they go on pretty much like Makos? I usually had to unlace 2 full eyelets, put them on at an angle, etc. Kind of a PITA but I could probably skate in those totally unlaced. Could not do that with my FT1. And yes, the owner said I def needed to come in ASAP to try and avoid the ramp up for the NHL. Earliest they could do for fitting was this Sat so hopefully I can get them by early Sept. I'm actually going out of the country from Sept 12 - 23 so that would be kind of bad timing if they didn't arrive prior to that.
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Any advice for things to do/ask during fitting or when the skates arrive? One thing I want to ask them about is trying to fix my over pronation on my left foot. Have flat feet but maybe some other issues going on in knee/hips and my left foot specifically while on ice tends to always want to fall toward the inside edge. I know it's a bit of ankle weakness from injury incurred but I think it's also partly just my anatomy.
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Have my fitting scheduled for Sat. Hoping the lead time isn't too long and that there's no issues, I think fall/winter season starts in about 6 weeks. Ideally would want to get them on the ice a few times first before games, too.
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Good to know. I'll probably order the True's then thru my hockey shop with the XS + Blacksteel, and then if I like that feel and performance, order a back up set of runners.
