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No, the toe is hard. They are made.for Hockey.
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Any feedback on longer radii ( >= 11’ )?
hockeydad3 replied to flip12's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Coming from a 10' radius i wanted to have more glide and stability and wanted to try a 11' radius. But my lhs convinced me to try a 13' radius. Big difference, way more glide and stability but a big loss in maneuverability. I'm a advanced beginner. And you have to adjust your ROH. Coming from a 95/75 FBV(1/2" ROH) on the 10' this sharpening was absolutely too sharp on the 13', couldn't stop or turn feeling like beeing on rails. I had to go to 92/50FBV(7/8" ROH) to get an adequate edge. After some weeks a part of my maneuverability came back, but I still want more of it. I will give it a chance for some weeks during next season and go to 11' if it doesn't get better. -
The bootconstruction is different to classic hockey skates, because they are developed from inlineskates. The manufacturer is Powerslide and the boots are looking similar to the Tau and Kaze models. So for fitting informations you could search this way. For me its my best fitting skate. I have a high volume midfoot, small forefoot and normal heel. In Nexus I´m touching the pencil with my midfoot. In my Reign Zeus boot I´m failing the pencil-test at all, but the flexible lace-area seems to compensate this volume-issue. The sides and the heel are quite stiff with a good forward flex. The boot has also a noticeable high-density memory-foam padding. Although I´m way off from Vapors you could give them a try. Maybe the powerslides have a more unique fit because they have only one product-line. It´s try and error as always with new models. Yes you will feel the height. Now I´m on 3x90mm in the 3x100mm frame. It´s feeling better for me, more stable and more agile than 3x100mm. The 5mm towards the ground is noticeable. But i only could find outdoor-wheels with 90mm diameter. Now I´m on 85a-88a-85a 90mm, this setup is definitely more agile and faster than the 4x80mm or the 3x100mm i was using before. Details you could read above. I´m using the skate outdoor and there is some wear and tear without a functional effect. In the web and on youtube you could find more information about the skates.
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Hi, the last picture is the sizing chart: https://sportbiene.de/Reign-Inline-Hockey-Skate-Zeus-Trinity-Outdoor My feet are 255mm long, I´m wearing EU size 41 shoes, having a high instep, small forfeoot, normal heel, and a voluminous midfoot. I´m fitting tight into size EU41 Zeus skate with a little room for my toes and a good heellock. Im wearing Bauer N2900 6.5D which is according to the bauer size chart: EU41, 25,5cm.
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Graf Maxx are good quality for low price. They are a bit short. Size 7 was a little too short for me, beeing in Bauer size 6.5.
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Hi, I do own the Reign Zeus Trinity. It is a nice, comfortable, stiff and reactive boot. On ice I´m in Nexus N2900 6.5D, my Zeus is EU41 fitting me fine. They are producing size EU40 upwards, so you could try them. I have been using them for about eight weeks last summer, two to three times a week. It was my first season on skates, using some Graf Maxx10 size 7, beeing too small, before. I had to go down for a 4x80mm frame on this boot because i couldn´t stand the height. The 3x100mm(Prime Centurio 84a) frame is more agile, has a better rolling resistance but a slower acceleration than my 4x80mm(Labeda Asphalt 85a) setup. After one season on ice I´m going to try the 3x100mm setup again next week.
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Some people have the opinion that there are differences in bearings but they would not be relevant as long as they are not defective. If a wheel spins 15-20 seconds without making a noise the bearings should be ok. The spinning time tells nothing about the behavior under load. A not serviceable bearing has grease as a lubricant needing to run in for about 50km and should be warm. A serviceable oil-lubricated bearing needs almost no running in time and spins better but has to be serviced! High quality bearings (100% european/us/japan made) should have a longer livetime and can make a difference for competitive long distance speedskating. But for inlinehockey the bearings have to stand the lateral stress caused by stopping and the sudden change of directions. So high quality low ABEC/ILQ bearings could do it better than more expensive midprice highend-bearings. I had the chance to get some greased SKF-ABEC5-skate-bearings (german manufacturer, 18 euro/16 bearings, online auction) and they are going into second season outside-hockey two to three times a week without any service. But there is a big noticeable difference if you have high quality wheels beeing optimzied for your skating-style, weight, skating-surface and even the temperature of your rink. So spend your money for wheels and not for bearings.
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Thanks for your answer, it is not plantarfasciitis which is chronic. And i don´t have heelspurs. It is an acute reaction of the fascia, only in skates on ice without shifts. I never had footproblems nor do i have them outside of skates.
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I do have some medical background. Today i coincidentally met a orthopedist who is specialized on feet. His opinion is that I´m not used to skating and i would have a short achilles-tendon caused due to my age and my unathletic earlier life, aggravated by my weight. This will put a lot of stress on my plantar-fascia. I should regularly stretch my achilles tendon and the plantarfascia and have patience, it would take months. This evening was my last hockey-session for this season. The baking gave me a little more room on the sides of my feet. I was tying my skates too loose, but had no time for retying. That´s why i had the chance to notice a third component of my pain: I´m loosing volume inside the boot during the first 10 minutes on the ice! Maybe my feet are swelling up and/or the boots are shrinking due to the temperature on the ice.The pain on the footsole was still present but definitely better than ever before. Thanks for your Advice and we will meet us in the rollerhockey forum 😉
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We do have more than 3 hockeyshops in a 50 km range around. But they are all small. They don´t have the complete range of skates in all sizes and widths on stock. Almost wanting to sell what´s in the shelves. One was fitting me into a supreme 6.5EE, which was not on stock, they made me trying a supreme 7.0EE too big, 6.5D too narrow and nexus 6.5EE too wide.Could find a supreme s160 6.5EE second hand quite as good as new, ending up beeing too wide, too shallow and too long The nexus 6.5D was my own conclusion. The nexus 6.5D having the correct lenght, but giving me pain. Is the N2900 a low end boot? It´s the middle one of the nexus-line, the next upgrade is the 2N. Yesterday i gave them a new bake. Tying loose and standing in them, not walking. The other bakings i was tying them very tight and sitting around. Maybe that changed the fit a little.
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Well my skates didn´t hurt standing in them for half an hour on the carpet or sitting around with them tied quite tight. Start hurting on the ice after 10-15 minutes, so i can´t return them.
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I'm lucky having a normal heel. A local shop has put me into Supreme 6.5EE, beeing too long, too wide and too shallow. I realized that after breaking in. I tried the two-lacing-method. It's Not a big difference to the unwaxed tight-loose-tight. But i realized that my pain has two components: tying tight and weight distribution on the footsole. Playing with the laces made my pain bearable. Could it be that the skates will continue to break in? Skated about 25 hours.
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Show me the begiiner who knows how a good fitting skate should feel like, and who will buy custom skates. The typical parameters are ok, and my problem shows up only after breaking in when the pain doesn´t vanish Who knows a skate with more volume/higher instep than nexus N2900?
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Smile I think that the price is on the heavy side for my budget.
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According to the info I could find online, the Nexus is the only skate that has a high volume midfoot and a high instep. That problem with my midfoot is the same with all skates i tryed. The Nexus has the best fit in the midfoot- and anklearea until now. Though a bit too wide in the forefoot. I will try the multiple lacing the next time.
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There are no red areas but you can see the lines of the tongue and the boot pressed into my feet. The custom insoles have been a try to fix my pain issue. They are special orthopedic hockeyinsoles, thin, hard and fitting perfect into my skates. The penciltest shows that the middle three eylets are touching and lifting the pencil for about one to two millimeters. In the toe- and anklearea, i have lots of space maybe five millimeters or more. My LHS guy told me to tie the first three eylets loose, the middle three eylets tight and the upper three loose again, otherwise the quarterpackage of my skates will crack. For todays hockey-session (90mins) i was trying nonwaxed laces tying tight-loose-tight. The pain was definitely better, which means that tying tight is one factor for my pain. The other one must be, and feels like weightdistribution on the footsole. But unfortunately on both skates the area of the fith outer eylet bulges out a lttle like a dog-ear, the beginnig of a crack? I´m in Nexus D, Supreme EE was too wide for me. My LHS guy wants to put me in True`s. But that´s too heavy for a beginner like me.
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The superfeet comfort didn´t work. At the moment the superfeet hockeypro ist a little better than the custominsole, but the custominsole gives me a better position in the skate and a definitely better feeling for the ice and a better performance. Today i went to public skate and i noticed the pain beginning in a line between my footpads and the arch from side to side. Maybe volume-issue, or tied too tight? I also tryed to skate with two of nine eylets dropped. It was a weird expierence for the beginning, like skating on raw eggs. After some rounds i could find the balance and make some gentle turns and stops. After eight rounds the pain came back. But after i tied my skates with all eylets again my skating was as nimble-footed as never before. So i will add dropping eylets to my practise in the future.
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I also tried the stock insoles. Our practice is not very tough and we are standing around waiting to be the next at least for about 40-50% of the time. But if I´m on the ice for a longer time the pain begins. When we are playing with no shifts, happens very seldom if we are not enough players, the pain beginns. When we are playing up to one hour with two lines, duration of shifts between one and two minutes and feet in the air on the bench, the pain vanishes. Last summer it was similar on inline-skates. When I´m tying my skates quite loose it´s getting better, but up to my weight and skating-level, i need the support of a snug to tight tied skate. So i think when I´m on the ice my weight is distributed differently in the skate than at home on the carpet. I can´t tell if it is a direct pressure at the footsole or a compression of the foot with vascular, tissue or neural compression nor can i tell you the exact area of that pressure (somewhere between the heel and the footpads). So I´m collecting ideas or experiences to try. Next try is superfeet hockey comfort insole size E instead of the correct size D for the archsupport beeing more towards the toes which could be more anatomical for me.
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Graf MCI 5035 6.5R, Bauer Supreme 160 6.5EE, Bauer Nexus 6.5D at the moment. CCM currex , Superfeet carbon pro, Bauer speedplate 2.0 and orthopedic-custom-insole. Graf Maxx10 7.0 and Reign Zeus 41 Inline-Skates. Medium arches. The Nexus and the Reign fitting the best of them all. So five skates and different insoles giving me the same problem. Are my feet not made to be in skates? I love this sport.
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It´s a burning pain in the whole footsole from mid of the heel to the end of the balls on both feet. So it is not a plantarfasciitis caused by heel spurs. And the pain is only correlated to wearing a skate on the ice for more than 5 to 15 min.without a break.
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I need some help! I´m still having a strong pain in my footsoles when i´m on the ice or in roller-skates. I tried a lot of things (different skates, different insoles, lacing-patterns and so on) but they didn´t work. I´m 52 jears old, 170cm, 95kg, beeing on skates since two and a half years, one season inlinehockey and one season icehockey on the beginner-level. The pain begins after 5-15 min. on the ice during practice and is getting worse every minute. It is so strong that i can´t concentrate on the exercises. When we are playing after the practice with two lines, the pain disappears after two or three shifts, because my feet can rest in the air when i´m sitting on the bench. I have never had this pain before in my live, nor do i have problems beeing off the ice. Even when i´m standing in front of the tv for more than half an hour in my skates on the carpet there is no pain. Who of you had pain on his footsole and can tell me his solution? Thanks for your answers. Martin
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Well, we might have different feet. I have both skates at home, every one skated about 12 hockey-sessions. Supreme 160s 6.5EE, Nexus N2900 6.5D. The Nexus beeing shorter, narrower on the midfoot and the heel , wider at the toebox and the forefoot and having a higher instep and a deeper bootleg than the supreme. Better fit for my feet, although the toebox is too wide for me.
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Do you have further information? Height, weight, shoesize, lenght and width of your feet, skating-level, your skate-modell/size and the fiiting of the skate (pencil-test, shake-test)?
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Yea, that´s the intention of the test.
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You have to compare the vapor with a new and actual version of the supremes in the same size and price-range. If your feet are between the two lines it could be that you have to test them for several hours of playing hockey/practice including baking to finally find out the right skate for you. This shit happened to me. Started with the wrong skate. Another test is: take out the laces and pull out the tonge completely to the front, put on the skate and shake your foot. This will show you how close the boot fits on your foot. And be aware of EE-sizes. A supreme-EE boot was definitely wider for me than a D-nexus.