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Some people have the opinion that there are differences in bearings but they would not be relevant as long as they are not defective. If a wheel spins 15-20 seconds without making a noise the bearings should be ok. The spinning time tells nothing about the behavior under load. A not serviceable bearing has grease as a lubricant needing to run in for about 50km and should be warm. A serviceable oil-lubricated bearing needs almost no running in time and spins better but has to be serviced! High quality bearings (100% european/us/japan made) should have a longer livetime and can make a difference for competitive long distance speedskating. But for inlinehockey the bearings have to stand the lateral stress caused by stopping and the sudden change of directions. So high quality low ABEC/ILQ bearings could do it better than more expensive midprice highend-bearings. I had the chance to get some greased SKF-ABEC5-skate-bearings (german manufacturer, 18 euro/16 bearings, online auction) and they are going into second season outside-hockey two to three times a week without any service. But there is a big noticeable difference if you have high quality wheels beeing optimzied for your skating-style, weight, skating-surface and even the temperature of your rink. So spend your money for wheels and not for bearings.

Thanks for your answer, it is not plantarfasciitis which is chronic. And i don´t have heelspurs. It is an acute reaction of the fascia, only in skates on ice without shifts. I never had footproblems nor do i have them outside of skates.

I do have some medical background. Today i coincidentally met a orthopedist who is specialized on feet. His opinion is that I´m not used to skating and i would have a short achilles-tendon caused due to my age and my unathletic earlier life, aggravated by my weight. This will put a lot of stress on my plantar-fascia. I should regularly stretch my achilles tendon and the plantarfascia and have patience, it would take months. This evening was my last hockey-session for this season. The baking gave me a little more room on the sides of my feet. I was tying my skates too loose, but had no time for retying. That´s why i had the chance to notice a third component of my pain: I´m loosing volume inside the boot during the first 10 minutes on the ice! Maybe my feet are swelling up and/or the boots are shrinking due to the temperature on the ice.The pain on the footsole was still present but definitely better than ever before. Thanks for your Advice and we will meet us in the rollerhockey forum 😉

We do have more than 3 hockeyshops in a 50 km range around. But they are all small. They don´t have the complete range of skates in all sizes and widths on stock. Almost wanting to sell what´s in the shelves. One was fitting me into a supreme 6.5EE, which was not on stock, they made me trying a supreme 7.0EE too big, 6.5D too narrow and nexus 6.5EE too wide.Could find a supreme s160 6.5EE second hand quite as good as new, ending up beeing too wide, too shallow and too long The nexus 6.5D was my own conclusion. The nexus 6.5D having the correct lenght, but giving me pain. Is the N2900 a low end boot? It´s the middle one of the nexus-line, the next upgrade is the 2N. Yesterday i gave them a new bake. Tying loose and standing in them, not walking. The other bakings i was tying them very tight and sitting around. Maybe that changed the fit a little.

Well my skates didn´t hurt standing in them for half an hour on the carpet or sitting around with them tied quite tight. Start hurting on the ice after 10-15 minutes, so i can´t return them.

I'm lucky having a normal heel. A local shop has put me into Supreme 6.5EE, beeing too long, too wide and too shallow. I realized that after breaking in. I tried the two-lacing-method. It's Not a big difference to the unwaxed tight-loose-tight. But i realized that my pain has two components: tying tight and weight distribution on the footsole. Playing with the laces made my pain bearable. Could it be that the skates will continue to break in? Skated about 25 hours.

Show me the begiiner who knows how a good fitting skate should feel like, and who will buy custom skates. The typical parameters are ok, and my problem shows up only after breaking in when the pain doesn´t vanish Who knows a skate with more volume/higher instep than nexus N2900?

Smile I think that the price is on the heavy side for my budget.

According to the info I could find online, the Nexus is the only skate that has a high volume midfoot and a high instep. That problem with my midfoot is the same with all skates i tryed. The Nexus has the best fit in the midfoot- and anklearea until now. Though a bit too wide in the forefoot. I will try the multiple lacing the next time.

There are no red areas but you can see the lines of the tongue and the boot pressed into my feet. The custom insoles have been a try to fix my pain issue. They are special orthopedic hockeyinsoles, thin, hard and fitting perfect into my skates. The penciltest shows that the middle three eylets are touching and lifting the pencil for about one to two millimeters. In the toe- and anklearea, i have lots of space maybe five millimeters or more. My LHS guy told me to tie the first three eylets loose, the middle three eylets tight and the upper three loose again, otherwise the quarterpackage of my skates will crack. For todays hockey-session (90mins) i was trying nonwaxed laces tying tight-loose-tight. The pain was definitely better, which means that tying tight is one factor for my pain. The other one must be, and feels like weightdistribution on the footsole. But unfortunately on both skates the area of the fith outer eylet bulges out a lttle like a dog-ear, the beginnig of a crack? I´m in Nexus D, Supreme EE was too wide for me. My LHS guy wants to put me in True`s. But that´s too heavy for a beginner like me.

The superfeet comfort didn´t work. At the moment the superfeet hockeypro ist a little better than the custominsole, but the custominsole gives me a better position in the skate and a definitely better feeling for the ice and a better performance. Today i went to public skate and i noticed the pain beginning in a line between my footpads and the arch from side to side. Maybe volume-issue, or tied too tight? I also tryed to skate with two of nine eylets dropped. It was a weird expierence for the beginning, like skating on raw eggs. After some rounds i could find the balance and make some gentle turns and stops. After eight rounds the pain came back. But after i tied my skates with all eylets again my skating was as nimble-footed as never before. So i will add dropping eylets to my practise in the future.

I also tried the stock insoles. Our practice is not very tough and we are standing around waiting to be the next at least for about 40-50% of the time. But if I´m on the ice for a longer time the pain begins. When we are playing with no shifts, happens very seldom if we are not enough players, the pain beginns. When we are playing up to one hour with two lines, duration of shifts between one and two minutes and feet in the air on the bench, the pain vanishes. Last summer it was similar on inline-skates. When I´m tying my skates quite loose it´s getting better, but up to my weight and skating-level, i need the support of a snug to tight tied skate. So i think when I´m on the ice my weight is distributed differently in the skate than at home on the carpet. I can´t tell if it is a direct pressure at the footsole or a compression of the foot with vascular, tissue or neural compression nor can i tell you the exact area of that pressure (somewhere between the heel and the footpads). So I´m collecting ideas or experiences to try. Next try is superfeet hockey comfort insole size E instead of the correct size D for the archsupport beeing more towards the toes which could be more anatomical for me.

Graf MCI 5035 6.5R, Bauer Supreme 160 6.5EE, Bauer Nexus 6.5D at the moment. CCM currex , Superfeet carbon pro, Bauer speedplate 2.0 and orthopedic-custom-insole. Graf Maxx10 7.0 and Reign Zeus 41 Inline-Skates. Medium arches. The Nexus and the Reign fitting the best of them all. So five skates and different insoles giving me the same problem. Are my feet not made to be in skates? I love this sport.

It´s a burning pain in the whole footsole from mid of the heel to the end of the balls on both feet. So it is not a plantarfasciitis caused by heel spurs. And the pain is only correlated to wearing a skate on the ice for more than 5 to 15 min.without a break.

I need some help! I´m still having a strong pain in my footsoles when i´m on the ice or in roller-skates. I tried a lot of things (different skates, different insoles, lacing-patterns and so on) but they didn´t work. I´m 52 jears old, 170cm, 95kg, beeing on skates since two and a half years, one season inlinehockey and one season icehockey on the beginner-level. The pain begins after 5-15 min. on the ice during practice and is getting worse every minute. It is so strong that i can´t concentrate on the exercises. When we are playing after the practice with two lines, the pain disappears after two or three shifts, because my feet can rest in the air when i´m sitting on the bench. I have never had this pain before in my live, nor do i have problems beeing off the ice. Even when i´m standing in front of the tv for more than half an hour in my skates on the carpet there is no pain. Who of you had pain on his footsole and can tell me his solution? Thanks for your answers. Martin

The other guy in the lhs suggested 90/50. I was scared that it would be too shallow, but he was right. Enough bite for me. The new profile is a big improvement in stability and glide and only a little loss in agility.

I went from a 10 feet stock profile to a neutral pitch 13 feet single profile. On the 10 feet profile a 92/75 fbv was fine for me, my lhs suggestion for the new profile was 98/50 fbv. Wtf, way too sharp on medium-hard ice. Couldn´t stop at all and was cachting edges all the time. The profile itself was feeling fine for me. Bauer nexus N2900, 6.5D, 170 cm, 95Kg beginner level. Any comparable experiences/suggestions for FBV?

It is a known issue that the centerhole in the grinding wheel is slightly larger than the arbor. But this imbalance should be gone after dressing a new wheel. The fact that a wheel which was dressed by hand at very low rpm(having a smooth contact to the spinner all around) vibrates at high rpm and has the blackline-phenomenom indicates that there is a weight-imbalance in the wheel-arbor-combination. I think the maximum of the imbalance should be in the center of the black line. More experiments after i get a workbench to bolt down my x02.

This evening i had the time to make some experiments. One theory was that there could be some problems with the dressing system. So i dressed the wheel turning it by hand without vibrations. This didn´t change the black line, nor the pattern on the blade. For the second step i used much more pressure on the skate during my passes. This was a significant improvement ont the black line and the pattern on the blade, although both symptoms remained visible. So i think that my problems are caused by the remaining vibrations. I dont´t know how much the pattern influences the performance of the skates because i can´t skate myself and don´t have an adult test pilot. Maybe i try bolting it down because the metal plate shelf my machine is located tends to vibrate. By the way my little player is a fast skater, can make very tight turns and wants his skates done by his dad.

The black line changes horizontally. One third of the circumference of the wheel has a black line fading on the beginning and the end and one third has almost no line.

It´s a picture before. The spinner is spinning and not worn. The pattern gets smaller when i reduce speed and pressure and use fineshine. I can feel the vibrations getting stronger in comparison from an empty wheelholder the wheelholder with the upper nut and a wheelholder with a grinding wheel. Burns can happen if the speed is to low. When i use fineshine the black line on the wheel is not consistent.Could this mean that the wheel is not dressed equally ?

Now a picture of a goalieblade without fineshine.

Hello, let us talk about the reasons for a pattern similar to fishskin with scales. It is very hard for me to reduce the pattern on the bottom of the blade after grinding the skates of my three boys. I use a X0-2 and there is no big difference between the orange and ruby grinding wheels.It is better when i use fineshine-oil but i was never able to produce a mirror-finish. In my opinion the pattern is caused by vibrations due to imbalances of the grinding wheel, the wheel-holder and/or the driving-belt. What do you think? And what can i do against this phenomenon ?

Does anyone know how to adjust the height of the grinding wheel against the center of the spinner for an X02 ? Because the wheel is to low which is ok for player-skates but to low for goalie-skates. I used to put a thin piece of plastic under the wheel but i think this causes some whobbling.

@ nunavut "... one edge is always sharper..." Hi, I think that your holder is de-calibrated. Have a look at the wissota-Homepage for a detailed calibration-instruction: "Understand skate sharpening - 3D three dial skate holder set-up and maintenance" p.s.: I can`t quote or copy-paste anymore !?