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In Germany we are on olympic size. After three sessions on ice i do love the glide which gives me less fatigue caused by poor fitness. My lhs has only the blackstone single radius profiles, no 12`available. And this lhs, 40 km away is the only one i know doing profiling and different ROH´s at all. Almost all of the other sharpeners will give you a house cut at about 1/2". First i had a 98/50 FBV on the 13`, it was like on rails, no way to stop and catching edges all the time. I hope the 90/50 FBV will give me back enough mobility because it´s quite flat. Tank you for the tip, but shipping my blades overseas is too complex for me.

I was on a stock radius of 10` with a 95/75 FBV on my Nexus2900 6.5D.I´m 95kg 170 cm, 51 jears old, beginner level. I was searching for a little more stability and glide. Wanting a 11` radius`, my lhs convinced me to try 13` with 90/50 FBV and neutral pitch. Way more glide and stability and enough bite, feeling OK for me. My agility decreased a little but is tolerable. But how could i determine if the radius is right, or too long for me without going to 11` and then maybe back to 13`?

I don´t give up since two and a half seasons. One and a half on public skating and one with beginner-hockey two times a week. And last summer on inlineskates. But i have always pain, though it´s a lot of fun. I have the luck that a sports club here araound has a big group of recreational/hobby/amateur hockeyplayers mixed of all ages, sex and skill-levels.

My toes are feathering the toecap when standing uprigth, or touching them when tight a little bit looser. There might be a little space behind my heel on the level of the insole but my heels had been in place when baking the insoles. I´m aware that custom-orthopedic-insoles could not do the whole job and i could have to punch out the boot to give the propper job. If that doesn´t help, i`m going to buy new feet or start playing soccer. I can´t focus on skating or the game if i have a strong pain in my feet. Is it really such a weird thing to learn skating and playing hockey with the age of 50? My kids starting with the age of 5 and playing hockey since 7 years could even skate on flipflops if they had two edges.

The other guy in the lhs suggested 90/50. I was scared that it would be too shallow, but he was right. Enough bite for me. The new profile is a big improvement in stability and glide and only a little loss in agility.

I think that i couldn't get a better fitting stock-skate. The N2900 is max. 1/4 size or less too long, a bit too wide in the forefoot, a bit too small in the midfoot, perfect heel/heellock. The speedplates are the right size, my arch is simply more towards the front than bauer is building it into their insoles/boots. Went back to the stock insoles. Still pain and pressure and less support than needed. Waiting for my orthopedic insoles. I hope the orthopedic technician knows his Job. He's playing hockey himself and he said that he has made some insoles for pro-players in the DEL2.

That´s how i did it. The problem is that there is pressure on the back third of my arch and no support on the front third. I have to remove material in the area of the back third of my arch. Cutting off the archsupport or punching the skate, i don´t know another way for the speedplates. Maybe i should go for other insoles.

I went from a 10 feet stock profile to a neutral pitch 13 feet single profile. On the 10 feet profile a 92/75 fbv was fine for me, my lhs suggestion for the new profile was 98/50 fbv. Wtf, way too sharp on medium-hard ice. Couldn´t stop at all and was cachting edges all the time. The profile itself was feeling fine for me. Bauer nexus N2900, 6.5D, 170 cm, 95Kg beginner level. Any comparable experiences/suggestions for FBV?

Here the Pictures: The first one shows my left foot placed to the insole like it is inside the skate(the toes are in place): https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/BqAABGJi The second one shows my left foot placed for the archsupport to fit into my arch: https://www.magentacloud.de/lnk/g5AAhiRI The archsupport of the insole fits perfect to the archcontour of the skate. That means my arch is more towards the toes than bauer wants it to be.

The height of my arches is medium.The speedplates offer a much better and snugger fit and fixation of my feet inside the boot resulting in a more direct feeling of the ice/edges and better power transfer. It seems that i have short feet, not small feet: high instep, highvolume midfoot and the middle of the arch more towards the toes than standard.

After 8 sessions on the ice I´m still feeling a painful pressure in the area of the arch support. The skates (Nexus N2900, 6.5D) are fitting well and have been baked twice. The insoles Speedplate 2.0 have been heated three times and the arch-support has been molded to the skate using a hairdryer and my fingers. Should i go on skating hoping they will break in, or should i cut off the arch-support or should i punch the skate?

The experience i made is that a skate beeing too big, too short or too wide needs to be tied very tight to give you enough ankle support or sufficient heel-lock. This can cause awful pain. I was going through all kinds of lacing patterns. Your pain can be a part of the breaking in process but should vanish after 10-15 hockey sessions. I´m now getting happy with my Nexus N2900 6.5D. My supremes s160 6.5EE have been too long and too wide causing pain in the midfoot when tied tight enough. The newest Nexus line seems to be a lttle snugger than the older ones. Have you been measured between a supreme D and a nexus D or EE size? Supreme EE can be wider than Nexus D and is longer than a D size. A well fitting skate doesn´t need to be tied too tight.

Want to give you some feedback. I had big luck and could get a pair of nexus N2900 in 6.5D only once used, not baked, as second hand.. Baked them, skated two times in public skating and one hockey training (75min). The N2900 6.5D are shorter and narrower all over than the S160 6.5EE, but have a slightly deeper instep and heel, though i barely fail the pencil test for the instep again. The nexus skates have a snugg fit without laces, the supremes are falling from my my feet when shaking without laces. During skating the balancepoint seems to be in the right place. At the moment i´m hopefull that i finally could find a suitable pair of skates.

According to the Bauer blade-size-chart 6.0 D and EE have the 254mm runner, 6.5D the 254mm and 6.5EE the 263mm runner. 7.0 is again 263mm for both and so on. The speedblade insole size is 7,0 for the 6.5EE and should be cut down to 6.5 for the 6.5D. But i´m sure that a 6.5D supreme would kill my midfoot due to my instep/midfoot size. Try to find some 6.5D nexus. The N2700 or better the stiffer N2900.? I´m still on the beginner level but from the heavy side.

EU 41, US8, lenght of my feet is 25,5cm, 95kg. My S160 are 6.5 EE skate size. Should be the correct length for me. But i found out that bauer EE-size seems to be a half-size longer than D-size.

After one baking and some hours on the ice my S160 starts to feel less supportive.The pain is better but still dominat but ican´t get an outside-edge. The skate has developed more room in the lenght so a pencil has room behind my heel.and the balancepoint feels weird. Like my feet are lateral and behind the balancepoint. Trying to hold my center over the balancepoint is very tiring. Are my skates too long and to wide after breaking in? Are they not stiff enough for my weight and their size?

Well, my supremes gave me a lot of pain the first skates. Baking was absolutely necessary, but i never got any blisters or bruises or lacebite. Only pain and cold numb feet.

The question above is the result from another thread: "I´m 51 years old, 170 cm and 95kg. I have a flat learning curve. Our sessions are typically half an hour practice with no break and half an hour playing against each other. We are max. 20 players down to 12 players, that means max two lines are playing against the others. During practice we are skating or standing around on the ice. After a few minutes i`m getting a strong Pain around the footsole and my middlefoot and my feet are getting cold. This Pain vanishes after some minutes of playing.There is no correlation to a special skate (Graf MCI 5035 6.5R/ Bauer Supreme 160s 6.5EE ore insole CCM/Superfeet Carbon pro Hockey/Bauer Speedplate 2.0). The Supremes with the Speedplates are my actual setup which seems to be the best one until now. Skating about 12 hours and three bakes on the supremes Waxed laces and tying them tight on the forefoot, loose to snug on the middlefoot and tight on the two upper eylets due to a small forefoot, a voluminous middlefoot and a normal heel and ankle. I need a strong ankle support due to my weight and skill level." " My foot ratio is 2,6 which means Supremes. I tried Vapors EE, Supremes D beeing too narrow and Nexus EE beeing too wide. The Supreme EE was feeling OK. I didn´t have the opportunity to try Nexus in D. The s160 have been a good deal second hand, skated only once without baking. They have a perfect heel-lock. when standing unlaced and my toes touching the cap i can barely put a pencil behind my heel. After tying them snug and standing upright my big toe is just one or two mms´s away from the toe cap. The pencil test just fails for maybe two mm`s from eylet two to six. My laces are 120" long. With 108" laces i had to undo the first two eylets to get them wide enough to put on my skates. After tying my skates the distance between the eylets is wider on the midfoot than on the forefoot or the bootleg." " The problem is during practice. Standing around on the ice without a break for half an hour gives me the horrible pain. The pain vanishes when playing with two lines and sitting on the bench during shifts. So constant pressure on my feet seems to induce the pain. Tying loose does reduce the pain but doesn´t give me enough ankle-support. Same problem like in my Graf´s. The improvement over the Graf´s is that my Supremes have a good forward-flex and my big toes dont´t touch the cap anymore and they are more forgiving, but less direct." I want to give the supremes some hours skating and another bake. But if this doesn´t help should i try Nexus-D Skates? And how could i predict that this will solve my problems? Testing them on the sofa my supremes gave me a good feeling. Has anyone out there experience with skating both actual Bauer lines, best in Supreme-EE and Nexus-D? Is there another way than buying and skating the skates for some hours to know if they are really comfortable for me? Thank you for your answers. MARTIN

The cold toes are simply a sideeffect. The problem is during practice. Standing around on the ice without a break for half an hour gives me the horrible pain. The pain vanishes when playing with two lines and sitting on the bench during shifts. So constant pressure on my feet seems to induce the pain. Tying loose does reduce the pain but doesn´t give me enough ankle-support. Same problem like in my Graf´s. The improvement over the Graf´s is that my Supremes have a good forward-flex and my big toes dont´t touch the cap anymore and they are more forgiving, but less direct.

Thanks for your tips. I think i have to work on the fitting of my skates. Giving them some additional hours and a baking for breaking in. Trying to lace them more differentiated. My foot ratio is 2,6 which means Supremes. I tried Vapors EE, Supremes D beeing too narrow and Nexus EE beeing too wide. The Supreme EE was feeling OK. I didn´t have the opportunity to try Nexus in D. The s160 have been a good deal second hand, skated only once without baking. They have a perfect heel-lock. when standing unlaced and my toes touching the cap i can barely put a pencil behind my heel. After tying them snug and standing upright my big toe is just one or two mms´s away from the toe cap. The pencil test just fails for maybe two mm`s from eylet two to six. My laces are 120" long. With 108" laces i had to undo the first two eylets to get them wide enough to put on my skates. After tying my skates the distance between the eylets is wider on the midfoot than on the forefoot or the bootleg. Maybe i should search for some Nexus D? The lower backpain could be due to my physical fitness/weight and my skill level 😉. When i know that we are less than 16 players i´m taking ibuprofen which halps slightly. Trying to work on my skating position and stretching. I have been reading that lower back pain could be due to a mismatch of the holder, beeing more to the inside of the skate than the individual balancepoint?

Hello, I started to learn skating on christmas two years ago, going to public skates three times a week. In april this year i joined a mixed amateur/recreational hockey club. Playing/practicing two to three times a week for one to one and a half hour on outside hockey rinks. Inlinehockey in summer and since the end of october on ice. I´m 51 years old, 170 cm and 95kg. I have a flat learning curve. Our sessions are typically half an hour practice with no break and half an hour playing against each other. We are max. 20 players down to 12 players, that means max two rows playing against the other ones. I have two severe pain problems that hinder me to concentrate on the drills or the game. First one: During practice we are skating or standing around on the ice. After a few minutes i`m getting a strong Pain around the footsole and my middlefoot and my feet are getting cold. This Pain vanishes after some minutes of playing.There is no correlation to a special skate (Graf MCI 5035 6.5R/ Bauer Supreme 160s 6.5EE ore insole CCM/Superfeet Carbon pro Hockey/Bauer Speedplate 2.0). The Supremes with the Speedplates are my actual setup which seems to be the best one until now. Skating about 12 hours and three bakes on the supremes Waxed laces and tying them tight on the forefoot, loose to snug on the middlefoot and tight on the two upper eylets due to a small forefoot, a voluminous middlefoot and a normal heel and ankle. I need a strong ankle support due to my weight and skill level. Second one: If we are playing against each other with no or almost no shifts, after ten minutes i start to develop a strong pain in my lower back (lumbar muscles). This pain can develop spasms, forcing me to stop playing. Afterwards i develop a strong ache in my lumbar muscles. If we are two rows, so we can shift every two to three minutes this pain doesn´t develop at all, even if we are playing for one hour. Any ideas? Thanks for your answers. Martin

It is a known issue that the centerhole in the grinding wheel is slightly larger than the arbor. But this imbalance should be gone after dressing a new wheel. The fact that a wheel which was dressed by hand at very low rpm(having a smooth contact to the spinner all around) vibrates at high rpm and has the blackline-phenomenom indicates that there is a weight-imbalance in the wheel-arbor-combination. I think the maximum of the imbalance should be in the center of the black line. More experiments after i get a workbench to bolt down my x02.

This evening i had the time to make some experiments. One theory was that there could be some problems with the dressing system. So i dressed the wheel turning it by hand without vibrations. This didn´t change the black line, nor the pattern on the blade. For the second step i used much more pressure on the skate during my passes. This was a significant improvement ont the black line and the pattern on the blade, although both symptoms remained visible. So i think that my problems are caused by the remaining vibrations. I dont´t know how much the pattern influences the performance of the skates because i can´t skate myself and don´t have an adult test pilot. Maybe i try bolting it down because the metal plate shelf my machine is located tends to vibrate. By the way my little player is a fast skater, can make very tight turns and wants his skates done by his dad.

The black line changes horizontally. One third of the circumference of the wheel has a black line fading on the beginning and the end and one third has almost no line.

It´s a picture before. The spinner is spinning and not worn. The pattern gets smaller when i reduce speed and pressure and use fineshine. I can feel the vibrations getting stronger in comparison from an empty wheelholder the wheelholder with the upper nut and a wheelholder with a grinding wheel. Burns can happen if the speed is to low. When i use fineshine the black line on the wheel is not consistent.Could this mean that the wheel is not dressed equally ?