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Finally I could order some RinkRat Trickster X 84a dual pour wheels. My first impression is that they are amazing. They are faster than my used Labedas, and have more grip and are more agile than the centurion 82a-84a-84a-82a setup. They have the best rebound of the tested wheels. They are too new to talk about the durability yet.

I have a similar issue with pain on my whole footsoles after ten to fifteen minutes on the ice. I have no problems with a shifting period of two minutes for about one hour. I tried allmost all kinds of skates and insoles on the market. The cause seems to be a mixture of fit (skate/insole), tight laces, my bodyweight, flat feet, lack of fitness, my age and my sense of balance. Very supportive and good fitting skates, tightening the laces less tight, cutting out the archsupport area of a stock insole and skating for over three years made the pain less prominent. But the pain still exists, sometimes more, sometimes less. Learning to skate at the age of fifty can be a long way to go.

OK, somehow you can rivet the frames onto the skates, but you have to jack them up to mount the wheels. With only three mounting points, the skate lacks the structures to distribute the forces evenly over the skate.

The Trinity Frame doesn´t fit on a Hockeyskate at all. No way.

Did you try them? I´m in Supreme 6.5D ice-Skate, and I´m in Reign Zeus 41EU, the forefoot is a little wider and longer than the Supremes.

And from a link on the Revision homepage to Amazon in the first Q&A: https://www.amazon.com/Revision-Asphalt-Indoor-Outdoor-Hockey/dp/B07W6RKNQV The answer is 82a.

My urban skates are rolling with wheels 88a. They are very hard and fast but don´t have much grip. They are ok on the rough surfaces of the city, but i wouldn´t be able to play hockey on a smooth asphalt/conrete with them. Ask the company if the durometer rating is true and if they are made for hockey on smooth asphalt.

That´s the way I went at the end of the last season (Matter/Prime Centurio 82a/84a mix). Only thing that I remember ist the wheels had good grip but have been slow compared to the Labeda Asphalts 85a. Only skated three times on them. I will give them a try next week as our season will start after shutdown. The second way is to discard the Labedas after some mm`s of wear. Third way is to find a better wheel for my purpose, but i don`t want to go through tons of wheels. Because we are playing in a mixed group of different ages and levels of play(I´m 53, adult beginner to intermediate) my target is speed not durability. In Europe we`re having a limited selection of wheels and a some of the outdoor wheels are sold out at the moment.

I (96kg) made the experience that my 80mm Labeda asphalt 85a lost the grip after a month and a few weeks in the next outdoor season. They have a good wear resistance and are fast and the grip was good when they were new. Most time i was skating on a smooth unpainted concrete rink, some times on a washed out, rough old concrete rink. On hot days the temperatures have been over 30°C. The loss of PU was not very high, loosing about 4mm in diameter, but the elliptical shape went to a V shape. I regularly rotated the wheels. The used surface is very smooth. Is this the typical usage? Is the PU getting hard over time of usage, or is this the consequence of loosing the initial shape? Should I try softer wheels with the consequence of skating on wheels beeing too soft/slow for the first weeks?

Which outdoor wheels do you like most for unpainted concrete and smooth asphalt (outdoor hockey rinks in summer)? I´m 96kg and used Hyper Pro 150 83a(too slow), labeda asphalt 85a 4x80mm, they are fast and have a great wear resistance but lost the grip after a month and some weeks in the next season. Now I´m on prime centurio 82a/84a, bought at the end of last season. Our season (no locker room, no contact, 1,5m distance, max. 20 people and outdoor) will start in one week. If I´m not lucky with the centurios, which wheels should I try? I could get these wheels: Konixx Rocket 2x Revision Asphalt Pro RinkRat Trickster x 84a Base Sudden Death 84a Hyper Pro 250 84a Labeda Asphalt 83a Any experiences or suggestions? I´m searching for the perfect mix of speed and grip, not the cheapest or most durable wheels. 😉

My Zeus with the 3x100mm/215mm frame and the 50mm lower hockeyboot is more agile than your zoom. But if you can´t use the agility because of a significant lack of stability in gaming situations, than the 4x80mm setup is the better choice for you. And my skating abilities are far away from Bill Stoppard. It was part of the IIHF regulations some years ago. I have Bauer Supreme 6.5 D hockeyskates, the Next is a little bit narrower in the heel an has way more room in the midfoot/toe area and the Zeus(Powerslide) is between them. I even coudn´t slip into Vapors.

I own a Reign Zeus (3x100mm/215mm, 4x80mm/243mm frames) and a Powerslide Next (3x110/243mm, 4x90mm/273mm frames). The Next is comparable to your Zoom, only the boot is 10mm higher. For inlinehockey on a smooth and clean concrete(outdoor hockey rink in summer) I prefer the Zeus because of the manueverability and weight. For urban djungle I prefer my Next because of the stability. On both skates i didn´t like the three wheel setup in case of stability issues, giving me the feeling like beeing on stilts. The rachets could be a risk of injury compared to a hockey-inlineskate. Maybe the official regulations require s special hockeyinlineskate like a hockeyskate for icehockey.

What`s the advantage of mixing wheels of different durometers? And what do you prefer? Two soft wheels in the middle or two hard wheels in the middle? Two soft wheels in the front or in the back?

Rotate the wheels when the highest point of the wheel is noticeable(2-3mm) off-center towards the outside of the boot. And change them from the position with higher wear to the position with lower wear. And from your dominant foot to the opposite one. Try to achieve a similar wear on all wheels regardless of a rotating pattern.

Inline warehouse has a fit description of the different Inlinehockeyskates. If you search for "Hockey skates" you will find the diferent modells. Than you can scroll down the overview of each skate.

I´m owning the Powerslide Next inlineskate. The fit of the boot is ok for me after widening the instep of the shell with a heatgun. In Bauer skates i´m fitting best into Supremes 6.5D, but missing the depth of Nexus-boots. The feeling of the Next 40/41(it seems that a lot of hardshell inlineskatesboots have multisize-shells with different liners) is a bit tighter in the heel and wider in the forefoot than my Supremes and shoudln´t be smaller. Maybe you could find a comparison between Next and FR boots. I had been giving the triskates two chances. First try have been my inlinehockeyskates Reign Zeus with a 3x100mm 215mm frame which i had to downgrade to 4x80mm 243mm frame because of stability and acceleration issues and second the Powerslide Next with a 3x110mm 243mm frame downgrading to a 4x90mm 273mm frame because of stability, hillclimbing and stopping issues. The three-bigwheel-design has advantages like speed and maneuverability but you have to be a decent skater in good condition and skate on a skating track with no hidden obstacles. My hockey inliners are great on a clean and smooth hockey rink but not supportive enough for me to skate around my living area. Due to the lockdown i only can skate around on sidewalks, bicycle paths and in parks with streetcrossings, stones, little branches, bumps, curbs, kids, byciclists, dogs, cars and so on around. I could compare the 4x80mm, 3x110mm and the 4x90mm frames on my Next boots which are very comfy, supportive and reactive and the 4x90mm has the best mix of stability, speed, smoothnes of rolling and controllability for me. If the wheels on your skates are spinning for some seconds than your bearings should be ok for skating around. The quality, size(bigger wheels have lower resistance), hardness(I prefer between 85A to 88A for the street) and condition of your wheels(completely or onesided worn) and the skating style(rolling on the inside edge and not on the flat) are more of importance for the speed.

Looks nice. Could be that you get problems with vibrations. I used to have some caused by a wobbling Podest. @ all of you: 100/50 FBV seems to have the strongest bite for the best glide available. How long did it take to adjust to it if you like it? If you don't like it, could you tell me the reason why?

One week and 4 skates later: I gave the 100/50 a try. I didn't think that there would be souch a big difference. Compared to the 92/75 there is a huge improvement in glide and speed. The bite for turning is good. I´m more agile and can make tighter turns. But i definitely lost lateral and longitudenal stability and acceleration (more noticeable on bad ice). I skate on a 11´ radius and I´m 225lbs and 5´7". Any suggestions for the same glide and better stability? Or could i adjust to the new FBV over time. Did anyone of you make the same experience?

Once a week we are the last team on ice on our outdoor rink at 9pm. We don't get fresh ice and it is quite hard. On fresh ice a 92/75 FBV is good for me. Could a xx/50 or a xx/1 FBV be better for heavily used ice?

Does anyone definitely know the structural differences of the three stick variants? I thought that a high kickpoint stick has the same stiffnes from the top to the bottom.

OK. But for me it's important to go the quick and dirty way to skating. I'm 52 and want to have some fun playing basic hockey. I will never become a decent skater as my boys are. I didn't do any sports for more than 30 years and had never been on skates. So my biomechanics are not existant.

Is it just try and error or are there predicting factors for someone to buy the right skate? A typical statement is that beginners should use a softer skate. Are there beginners who need an advanced skate?

Another thread is leading me to the question of the ideal stiffness of a hockey skate. Is the ideal stiffnes of a skate only a subjective feeling or are there objective parameters to determine the right stiffnes?

Some people have the opinion that there are differences in bearings but they would not be relevant as long as they are not defective. If a wheel spins 15-20 seconds without making a noise the bearings should be ok. The spinning time tells nothing about the behavior under load. A not serviceable bearing has grease as a lubricant needing to run in for about 50km and should be warm. A serviceable oil-lubricated bearing needs almost no running in time and spins better but has to be serviced! High quality bearings (100% european/us/japan made) should have a longer livetime and can make a difference for competitive long distance speedskating. But for inlinehockey the bearings have to stand the lateral stress caused by stopping and the sudden change of directions. So high quality low ABEC/ILQ bearings could do it better than more expensive midprice highend-bearings. I had the chance to get some greased SKF-ABEC5-skate-bearings (german manufacturer, 18 euro/16 bearings, online auction) and they are going into second season outside-hockey two to three times a week without any service. But there is a big noticeable difference if you have high quality wheels beeing optimzied for your skating-style, weight, skating-surface and even the temperature of your rink. So spend your money for wheels and not for bearings.

The other guy in the lhs suggested 90/50. I was scared that it would be too shallow, but he was right. Enough bite for me. The new profile is a big improvement in stability and glide and only a little loss in agility.