hockeydad3

I´m 52, 170 cm and 105 kG size 6.5D. I`m playing beginner-amateur-level. I had different skates till i found something adequate to skate in. I want or need a good support from my skates. I had Nexus N2900 which are similar to the S29. I could feel them twisting and sqeezing under my load, loosing a noticeable amount of power in the skates and not going into the ice and having not enough support. Now I´m on used Supreme S180. They are way more stiff than the N2900 and give me the support i want and transfer my power better to the ice. Are the 8.5 fitting you loose ore tight? I prefer a normal-tight fit. Can you try the 1s? And don´t forget the width, Bauer EE are a half size longer than D!

Why did you buy new skates? What kind of skates did you have before? Are your new skates longer than your old ones? Did you have non-stock insoles in your old skates or in your new skates? Can you change the runners between your skates?

Looks nice. Could be that you get problems with vibrations. I used to have some caused by a wobbling Podest. @ all of you: 100/50 FBV seems to have the strongest bite for the best glide available. How long did it take to adjust to it if you like it? If you don't like it, could you tell me the reason why?

One week and 4 skates later: I gave the 100/50 a try. I didn't think that there would be souch a big difference. Compared to the 92/75 there is a huge improvement in glide and speed. The bite for turning is good. I´m more agile and can make tighter turns. But i definitely lost lateral and longitudenal stability and acceleration (more noticeable on bad ice). I skate on a 11´ radius and I´m 225lbs and 5´7". Any suggestions for the same glide and better stability? Or could i adjust to the new FBV over time. Did anyone of you make the same experience?

Once a week we are the last team on ice on our outdoor rink at 9pm. We don't get fresh ice and it is quite hard. On fresh ice a 92/75 FBV is good for me. Could a xx/50 or a xx/1 FBV be better for heavily used ice?

Does anyone definitely know the structural differences of the three stick variants? I thought that a high kickpoint stick has the same stiffnes from the top to the bottom.

I had been told by a LHS-guy that Bauer made some minor changes to the fit of the Nexus and Supreme line. Nexus got a narrower heel and supreme more volume/depth. I don´t know if it`s correct.

After reading around in the web it seems that the tibialis anterior syndrome has the same cause like shin splints. A muscular overload of the muscle next to the outside of the shin. Any advice or solutions?

I'm from Germany a bit far away for hockey boost. Just wanted to know if there are effective differences between shimming and pitching for the feeling and balance of the skates. A 2+ forward pitch seems to give me a better balance and distribution of my weight for my footsole. My insole is custommade, thin and gives me no negative space inside my skates. So I can't deal with insoles.

Hi folks, has anyone of you ever had a "tibialis anterior muscle compartment syndrome"? It´s a very painful pulsating swelling of the tibialis anterior muscle(shin muscle) due to overload. It has almost the same location like shin splints and is more common in the runners world. If so, did you find a cause for it and got a solution? After solving my painproblem in the footsole by changing to a stiffer better fitting skate, using a hockey-orthotic--custom-insole and adding a +2 forward pitch(seems to distribute my weight bettter over the whole foot) i´m running into the next fxxxxxx painproblem. My skatesetup is quite new and during the last icetimes my problem has been announced slowly, i was using diclofenac and magnesium but yesterday evening i had to leave the ice after 15 minutes after skating some crossover circles during practice. The Pain was so strong that I could bite into the bench. Today I have a strong aching in this muscle, more on the right leg which is my dominant side. I have cancelled practice for the next two days. Any ideas? Thanks for your answers

As far as i know there are three different ways to change the lie of a skate to achieve a forward lie: 1. Using an insole with a heel-lift or using a shim beneath the heel-part of the insole. 2. Using a shim between the boot and the heel-part of the holder. 3. Changing the profile of the runner with a forward pitch. Do these methods have the same results? Are there pro`s and con´s of the different methods?

Did you try a very thin cheap insole without any anatomical support (for normal shoes) as rivet covers, or even without any insole? Maybe the anatomical fit of the boot has not the shape of your feet. Did you heat mold your skate?

Do your skates have the correct size and fit? I had similar problems with skates beeing too big. You could search for skate-sizing-guides.

Sorry but somehow I have the impression that we talk past each other. By my comparison, I never wanted to prove the postulation that a mirror finish has more glide.

It´s not more ore less than described above. One runnersetup having way more glide than the other. But the result was predictable, or not? All changed parameters are supposed to deliver more glide. I just wantet to share my practical experience

This comparison was not planned. I bought a pair of used skates with the " 10`profile with a 1/2" ROH with a rough finish-runners" on them. And I replaced them with the "13`profile with a 92/50 FBV and a smooth finish-runners" from my old skates. Tested them two times.

Why don´t you just try them out of the box, maybe you like them more than the Grafs? If not, just try a insole with heellift like superfeet.

For me it´s the opposite. The Supreme 180 is the best fitting skate I ever had, after several bakings almost zero negative space and a good support. The insole is ok, with room for development. The +1 forward pitch is giving me the best longitudenal balance I ever had in skates. For my physiognomy the optimal hollow seems to correlate with the profile radius: 10` = 92/75FBV(9/16ROH), 11` = 90/75FBV(3/4ROH) and 13`= 92/50FBV(~15/16ROH). It is now a good base to accomodate for some weeks to the new setup. I only want to find out if I´m on the right way and understand what happened.

The pain in the footsole is noticeable better. The fit and support of the Supremes is better, but there is no room for a thicker insole or a heellift because they have less volume than the Nexus. With the old profile I was feeling my weight being on my heels. The forwardpitch is better than the heellift. With the new one I´m feeling balanced, more agile and I have a better longitudenal stability even off-ice. I was starting this thread because I couldn´t skate after getting the new profile, but this was due to the initial FBV beeing way too sharp. But I just want to know more about the theory of pitching. Why is my weight on the heels? Do I have a bad skatingposition or is the standardbalancepoint not ideal for my physiognomy? Who needs a hegative or positive pitch, and why? Are there only positive effects, or could there be negative sideeffects?

That´s what i wanted to say. The new profile on the S180 is even feeling better and more stable than before with the old one on the N2900. But I don´t know if my skatingstance is better or a bad habbit is better supported by the profile. Have to get used to the new setup and build some "muscle memmory".

Beeing on the ice and skating or standing during practice for more than about 10-15 min. gives me a very strong and burning pain on my whole footsole. Standing on skates and walking around at home on the carpet is ok. Playing hockey with two rows and shifting every two minutes is ok. Tying the skate loose in the midfoot area is helping but I´m missing the support of the skate. Using an insole without any archsupport helps. This was leading me to a tightfitting stiff boot and a very thin insole, best situation I ever had.

Well. I´m reading a lot here in the forums. The LHS´s here around couldn´t help me with my pain in skates and insoles, only wanting to sell new skates especially true´s customs. My problem seems to be probably rarely. So i have to go the "try and error way". Changing skates and insoles did help me with my pain. But my old profile was a nogo on the new skates/insoles. I´m lucky that my modifikation seems to be better than the situation before. I just want to understand what happens and want to know if there could be negative sideeffects I have to pay attention for.

Going to 11`+1 forward feels good with the new skate, more stability and agility. I just had to adjust the FBV. But why is the forward pitch leading to more stability for me? Anybody around here who knows about the theory of pitching?

I changed from a N2900 with a SuperFeet insole and a neutral pitch, 13' radius and a 92/50FBV to a Supreme 180 with a very thin insole and the same runner. The profile didn't feel good anymore and I was feeling my weight too much towards my heels. So I was trying a 11' radius +1 forward pitch with a 92/75FBV(which was OK for me with a stock 10' profile before). The pitch was feeling good but I couldn't turn or stop anymore because the edges were way too sharp. This was the point where I was opening this thread. Meanwhile I went via a 95/50FBV(too shallow) to a 90/75FBV which seems to be a good starting point to get used to the new setup. Didn't think That a change between a 92/75FBV and a 90/75FBV could make such a big difference. But I'm still interested in the pros and cons of pitching beside of moving the balance point.

How does changing the pitch alter the skatingcharacteristics of a skate? For example going from a neutral pitch to a +2 forward pitch, can this alter the turning abilities of the profile or the sharpness of the hollow?