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hockeydad3

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  1. If the surface is rough like sanpaper it will make a difference. Let a fingernail glide along the hollow. If you have a rough feeling, i think this will matter. Had the opportunity to compare two pairs of runners. A 10`profile with a 1/2" ROH with a rough finish and a 13`profile with a 92/50 FBV and a smooth finish. The second setup had almost the double gliding distance (as far as i could compare it).
  2. There are big differences. Best examples are speedskaters having no hollow and a flat profile. A shallow hollow and a flatter profile gives you more glide. The heavier you are and the softer the ice is the bigger is the difference. A mirrorlike finished hollow gives you more speed than a rough one. A FBV gives you the glide of a very flat hollow combined with the bite of a deeper hollow although the edges feel different and less prominent. I tryed a lot. Best if you can compare two setups by changing the runners under similar conditions.
  3. OK. But for me it's important to go the quick and dirty way to skating. I'm 52 and want to have some fun playing basic hockey. I will never become a decent skater as my boys are. I didn't do any sports for more than 30 years and had never been on skates. So my biomechanics are not existant.
  4. Is it just try and error or are there predicting factors for someone to buy the right skate? A typical statement is that beginners should use a softer skate. Are there beginners who need an advanced skate?
  5. Another thread is leading me to the question of the ideal stiffness of a hockey skate. Is the ideal stiffnes of a skate only a subjective feeling or are there objective parameters to determine the right stiffnes?
  6. I have all kinds of hockeyinsoles l could buy including custom orthotics. Every kind of arch support induces pain. Even the stock insoles of the N2900 are impossible for me to skate with. Now I'm with a small and thin cheap insole.
  7. I want it both, comfortable and supportive 😉 I have the feeling and fear that my Nexus are too soft and I´m going to spend weeks or months in the wrong skates which prevents me to make adequate progress in my skating skills. Because of my age and my constitution I have a flat learning curve anyway. On the other hand I don´t want to spent a lot of time and money searching for the "right skate" if the Nexus are OK for me. I´m 220lbs in a size 6.5 skate. When I´m standing on the carpet in the living room with my Nexus on and I´m shifting my weight from the outside edge of the left foot to the outside edge of the right foot the boots are twisting and squeaking, is this ok? Doing the same with the Supremes the boots keep their shape. When skating i have the feeling of a lacking support of the Nexus and I´m feeling a little unstable, but this could be subjective.
  8. At the moment I don't want to buy another skate. If I use the thicker Speed plate in the Nexus and the thin rivetcover in the Supreme the fit around the toes and the forefoot is OK in both skates. If I change the insoles the Nexus are too wide and the Supreme are too narrow. My problem is that the speedplate is giving me a perfect support for my feet with a direct feeling for the ice and a good powertransmission. I want this performance and stability. The rivetcovers don't offer anything of the above. So how can I determine if the Nexus skates are too soft for me? Or how can I get the performance of the Speedplates into my Supremes or determine if they are too stiff?
  9. I had a Supreme S160 6,5EE, it was too wide for the whole foot. I have a big volume midfoot, but the pain seems to be caused by pressure to my semiflat arch.
  10. On my search for a painfree skate i have to make a decision between a Nexus N2900 or a Supreme 180 size 6.5D. Bauer 3DScan will fit me into supreme 6.5D. My fit seems to be between those skates. I got both skates used but in good condition. The Supremes are a bit too narrow and the Nexus are a bit too wide in the forefoot area and the Supremes are a little too shallow and the Nexus a little too deep volumewise. The Supremes are feeling too stiff and the Nexus are feeling too soft for me. Both have a good heellock. The solution for my strong pain in the footsole seems to be using an insole without any archsupport. In the Nexus a Speedplate 2.0 with removed archsupport is giving me a good fit and support for my feet but it feels that the boot is not stiff enough to give me the ankle-support i want to have. In the Supremes i have to use a thin cheap rivet-cover-insole from a Supreme 160 to have enough room for my toes but this insole doesn´t give any support or cushion. I´m 52 years old, 220lbs,170cm and a advanced beginner. Should i stay with the Nexus which are more comfortable or should i go with the Supremes and put some time and work into them to make them fitting better and give myself some time to cope it with them? Or what can i do to find it out?
  11. This could be an explanation for the deeper hollows they use, because most profiles are getting rounder over the time due to freehand sharpening.
  12. How was your feeling about stopping? Had your previous skate a good tight fit around your feet and was ist a lower end skate? Did the profile of your runner change? I changed from a flexible more loose fitting Nexus2900 to a stiff and tight fitting Supreme180 and put my runner from the Nexus on the 180s. They definitely have a sharper feeling. But I'm from the heavy side. 220lbs.
  13. All those facts or parameters have a influence on the ideal hollow including preferences as an important part of it. Imagine the two extremes.: A heavy skater on a tight fitting stiff skate with a 13' radius and a 3/8" hollow or a lightweight skater with soft and loose fitting skates with a 7' radius and a 1" hollow. Do you know the profiles or the skate fit of your examples? Until recently in my area it was usual to get the 1/2" standard hollow for all skaters and profiling the runners was impossible to get. So I think that a lot of the skates had a banana profile and others said that they don't like fresh sharpened skates. I went from a 10' radius to a 13' radius and that was absolutely impossible to skate for me with the 1/2" hollow I had before. I tried a 7/8" hollow and this is good for me now.
  14. Maybe we can summarize: Facts for a shallow hollow: flat profile, high bodyweight, soft ice, experienced skater, stiff and tight fitting skate. Facts for a deep hollow: round profile, low bodyweight, hard ice, recreational skater, soft and loose fitting skate. And if everything is medium maybe try a 5/8" hollow at first and find your personal preference. Or go the FBV way and you can ignore the glide-advantage of a flat hollow.
  15. I think that the fit, the stiffness of the skates and the tightness of the laces has a big influence on how sharp the hollow feels for the skater. A tight fitting and stiff skate will give you a sharper feeling than a loose fitting soft skate with the same hollow/profile.
  16. Yes, it`s the part of the radius-profile touching and sinking into the ice. No, this length depends on the radius of the profile, the weight of the skater, the temperature of the ice and the depth of the grinding-hollow(ROH/FBV). The lenght of the gliding-part of the runner, which will get the single-radius-profile, changes by the runner-size because it´s 60% of the runner-length. The gliding-surface is shorter than the gliding-part unless you have an extreme big radius-profile which is semiflat. Yes and no, it adds a defined flat on the bottom of the radius of the gliding-part of the runner. I think the same. Here some additional info: https://www.noicingsports.com/skate-1
  17. Of course there is a correlation between glidesurface and profileradius but i don´t think its linear. A single radius profile does not have a definite glidesurface like a CAG-profile. The glidesurface of a single radius profile is round an the glidesurface of a CAG profile is flat. If you lean your weight forward the gliding surface of a single radius profile moves toward your toes and vice versa like in a rocking chair. With pichting of a single radius profile you are moving the deepest point of the rocker forward and backward with the glidesurface having the tendency to move in the other direction. If done correctly on a new runner a 13´ single radius profile should give you more steel underneath your toes than the standard profiles out of the box. A negative pitch will lift the toearea away from the ice.
  18. I dont´t think that there is a linear correlation between the radius of your profile and the lenght of the glidesurface. And I think that you don´t have a definite lenght of the glidesurface with a single-radius-profile. The lenght of the glidesurface will depend on the hardness of the ice, the weight of the skater and the depth of the cut(ROH/FBV). If going to a shallower profile with neutral pitch will give you a better glidesurface in the middle and the heelarea and too much steel underneath your toearea, why don´t you remove the steel underneath your toearea? That is the principle of a dual/multi-profile. If you move the deepest point of the circle of the profile towards your toes your weight will be shiftet towards your heel(negative pitch), this will decrease your stability. If you are then going to a more shallower profile the effect of the negative pitching will be reduced and you will have more steel underneath your toearea.
  19. I went from 10' neutral profile to a 13' profile. Big gain in stability and glide. Lost a noticeable amount of agility. And for the first skates I was often picking my toes. In your theory you are mixing pitch and profile. A completely flat profile won't change the pitch at all, you have to change the angle towards the ice by shims or insoles etc. By going to a negative pitch you will move your balancepoint to the heel which is not recommended. Adjust to your new profile, go to a dualradius or grind off a little steel underneath your toes.
  20. Hi, Does anyone know the difference between the new Bauer Vapor and Supreme goalieskates?
  21. Different skates and insoles can also have a big influence on the behaviour of a profile/cut. You are changing a lot of variables at the same time.
  22. Taller people have longer feet, providing more longitudenal stability needed due to their height. For single-radius-profiles: Longer blades provide a longer base for the contact area to move forward and backwards. It´s like the length of the rocker of a rocking chair. The profile-radius of a blade is like the curvature of the rocker of a rocking chair and defines the length of the contact area with the ice. 4mm blade length shouldn´t make any difference. Profiling makes the difference for agility, speed and stability.
  23. Sounds like a similar problem. Standing or walking around off the ice is no problem for me. Standing and skating around on the ice i get the pain after 10-15 minutes. Playing with two lines and sitting on the bench between shifts, I can play for 90 minutes without problems. I need a good lateral support from my skates. I´m having 220lbs and skate size 6.5. My next try is with Supremes 180, used but in good condition. Stiffest skates i owned so far.
  24. Hi, I have big problems to find a suitable skate. Now Bauer 3DScan wants to put my feet into the new supreme line 6.5D. Before i buy another skate for the shelf i want to try it longer on the ice. I could get a used but usable supreme 180 for little money to find out if the boot would suit my needs better than the skates I own. Is there a difference between the supreme 180 and the S29 in terms of the fitprofile?
  25. Today i had the chance to try a bauer-3d-scan (barefoot).The result was supreme 6.0 D. I didn´t get the exact measurements. I could see that both feet were slightly above the 6.0 level, maybe 6.1. The employee told me that i would have very wide heels, flat footsoles and small forefoots and that i should go custom because my feet are complex. The instep line of my scan fits the supreme-line and the nexus-line has room in the insteparea???-(my Supreme s160 6.5EE fails the penciltest and in my Nexus 2900 6.5 D my feet are touching the pencil) The pain in my footsole should be caused by compressed arteries in the heel-sole-area. They made me try some S29 6.5D and EE because a recreational-player could go up a half size. The EE was too wide (oh wonder) and in the D i was feathering the toecap. Both skates didn´t feel comfortable or like a second skin. Did the Supremes change the fit from the S 1X0-line to the S2X-line? Does the S29 have a wider heelpocket than the N2900? At home i was trying my Nexus, Supremes and Grafs. My Nexus skates are definetely snugger and more comfortable than the S160 or the S29 but i was missing lateral support. The Graf MCI 5035 6.5R have the best fit and the lateral support is superior to the Bauers, but they are too short. My big toe is my longest toe and the Graf toecap is round-pointed. How far can the Graf toecap be stretched? Could my Tuuk holders 263mm from the S160 be mounted on my Grafs with 256mm T-Blades? Could the N2900 heelbox be stretched, so i can tighten the ankles more without cramping the heel-midfoot-area? Should I try the S29, or should I go custom?
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