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VegasHockey

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  1. 3 hours ago, dkmiller3356 said:

    Waiting......

    A lot of things..... Some stuff under NDA, but we do composite fabrication and engineering. Research of composite, coating, and casting systems and manufacturing as well. Also, as more of a hobby, we dabble in metallurgy too. Myself, personally, I deal with engineering. Not sure why any of this matters though. 


  2. On 11/13/2018 at 12:10 PM, VermonterDad said:

    So I'm getting the feeling that no one has heard of any runners that intentionally have this sort of thickness taper from the factory, and that any taper is the result of a manufacturing defect, bad sharpening/honing, or overuse of one of these V-shaped ceramic honing things. Thanks, guys. I appreciate the input.  

    I have seen a few defects that are sort of similar, but not exact. This would be an anomaly. If they are in fact fairly new he could ask for new steel from CCM. 


  3. 1 minute ago, Larry54 said:

    No problem. I totally understand your frustrations.

    The reason for my question about blade size goes back to my first pair of VH, 5 years ago. One of the many pieces of info that they asked for was current skate brand and size, and current blade size. Even though I wore size 7 Bauer with "263" blades, I wrote that I believed they were longer than they should be, but I had chosen that length to avoid having the toe cap pinch my weird, wide forefoot and toes. I also mentioned that I wouldn't mind going with shorter blades if the ideal boot for my foot was shorter than my current pair. Then I received VH skates that were the same length as my Bauers with "263" blades and just assumed they knew better even though there was a good 7-8mm ahead of my toes. The skates fit so well otherwise with the molding that I felt good about the skates.

    Three years later, when I saw that other VH owners had much closer fitting skates lengthwise, I decided to order a new pair. I sent several e-mails to Rob insisting on a closer fitting boot, asking him to throw out the data on my first boots, even specifically asking for "254" blades because I knew that "263" blades could not fit on shorter boots. My current VH skates are closer to a size 6 with "254" blades and fit perfectly. Not knowing what their thinking was at the time, I felt they might have made the boots long enough to fit the "263" blades that they thought I would be more familiar with. That's why I asked you if you requested oversized holders. I was just trying to figure out why they would have made you longer boots. But from your description, it sounds like True are really way off on this one and I hope they will make it right for you.

    A 263 holder length is standard on a size 7 skate. That is not longer than should be. In fact, many players will request a 272 on custom skates on a size 7/7.5 skate. I actually use a 272 on my own skates, both True and Bauer/CCM, which are 6 7/8 left and 7 1/4 right. 

     


  4. 1 minute ago, strosedefence34 said:

    Well we will agree to disagree I guess. 

     Like I said I’ve been in my skates for 3 years and can’t say they have durability issues. Aside from normal wear and tear over 3 years my skates have held up great. 

    Every pair of skates is going to be different. Too many variables and factors. I totally understand your pair of skates and the Bauer/CCM models you might interact with are holding up decently well but the ones I see, at any of our three stores, dont hold up nearly as well when you compare them to True skates. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying Bauer or CCM dont make good skate. They do! I adore the FT1/FT2 skates! I just speaking from my own personal experiences. 


  5. 1 minute ago, strosedefence34 said:

    My 190s are from the same relase as the mx3s.

    From working in a shop for the last few years and seeing tons of skates come and go I don’t see a huge drop off in durability from the years to be honest. I will say I mostly see $200 price point skates to top of the line and the biggest issue I see is tendon guards ripped/ hanging on by a thread and that’s because people are lazy when taking their skates off.  

    Admittedly the only pair of true skates I have ever seen in person were the pure hockey display model so I can’t comment on how well they hold up over time. I will say with Bauer and ccm the durability seems fine. None of them exploded from a blocked shot.  

    FWIW where I live there are about 7 rinks all within an hour drive, 2 NCAA teams, 4 ACHA teams, a couple AAA teams as well as strong youth hockey programs and probably 4+ different adult leagues so I get a pretty good sample of skates id say. 

    I deal with a lot of high-level Junior teams, including WHL teams and such. I rarely see a single pair of Bauer or CCM skates make it through more than a single season. Most players go multiple seasons in a single pair of True skates. I skate about 15+ hours a week on average and my last pair of CCM/Bauer skates looked pretty beat up after 4 months. 


  6. 3 hours ago, strosedefence34 said:

    I've been in my Supreme 190's for 3+ years now and all I have had to do was replace a few eyelets. I have taken shots off the foot and well it sucked and I felt it, but it didn't keep me off the ice nor did my skates fall apart.  I am on the ice 2-4 times a week and play in pretty high level around here.

    The older generations of skates are made different than the last few generations. The NXG, MX3, then 1S and finally 2S Pro are all made from similar materials, but in drastically different ratios. Around the time the NXG and MX3 were released manufacturers started to become obsessed with lowering of skate weight. It took CCM a little longer, moving from the RBZ/JetSpeed OG to the FT1 and now the FT2. 


  7. 10 hours ago, jvincig01 said:

    Sacramento

    Interesting, I have actually heard of quite a few customers recently who pulled the liners a little when baking the skates and they had to get the liner repaired. One of our customers had the same thing happen as well but he has not brought the skates back for us to mail them to True for him..... we have been waiting for a few months now. 


  8. 24 minutes ago, jvincig01 said:

    Somewhat new to the forum but I wanted to share my experience with my True's (3 months). I have been playing for around 25 years so my skating is good enough that I know what I like and don't like in a boot. I played on Graf's for around 15 years and really liked the aggressive profile/pitch. I went to Step Steel a couple years ago and got used to the height. When I switched to True I found myself a little flat footed and felt clumsy. I brought my Graf G3's to my LHS and had them check the radius. Turns out the radius was the same as my True's so that was a good sign. I ended having them pitched 3 degrees forward which doesn't sound like a lot. BUT, after about 5 minutes on the ice, I felt like I was in a better version of my Graf's!

    My True's have shot blockers so there is added weight but worth it. I took a shot to the inside of my ankle a few years ago and have nerve damage around the bone. I added the blockers because I can't afford to take another shot in the same spot.  I actually weighed my G3's next to my True's and they were almost identical btw.

    To me, the weight isn't an issue. Not trying to sound rude but if the weight is simply too much for you to bear than consider doing a couple air squats every morning for a few weeks followed by a protein shake or something. 

    Let me answer some questions..

    Aren't the skates ugly? Maybe to some but who really cares? I am not an aesthetics guy. I just want to skates to last like my Graf's did. 

    How's the fit? Petty incredible. I have very narrow heels and flat feet. My ankles are completely locked in and I have a ton of pop when taking off. There is no extra space in the boot which I like. The advantage of having perfectly fit skates, and the performance that comes with that, is worth the tradeoff of a couple grams of boot weight. 

    Aren't they bulky? At first, yes. But once I had them profiled that seemed to go away.

    Have I had any issues with the quality? Yes. But not True's fault. My local hockey shop took them out of the oven and handed them to me without a shoe horn or any direction on how to lace them. This compromised the integrity of the liner and one of my eyelets was a little off on my right skate. I sent pictures to True and they got back to me right away. I had them there and back to me fixed in 1 week! Their support is absolutely great.

    Hope this review helps everyone. In summary, we are not NHL players but we know what we like and don't like. These are pro skates, not a pro-like skate, so find comfort in knowing they are quality. 

    Where are you located? 


  9. 1 hour ago, Sniper9 said:

    At least now we all know how to customize an off the shelf skate 😁. But in all seriousness, I hope it works out for you. 

    I actually tried on my Bauer's today for fun without lacing them, and I have to be honest, I didn't mind/actually likes the hollow super light feel..... 😶

    The lightweight hollow feeling is nice until you take a shot to the foot or the skate starts to fall apart. I guess its all depends on the level of hockey you play and how often you are on the ice, but for me, nothing has been as durable as my True skates. Not even close. 


  10. 6 minutes ago, JR Boucicaut said:

    Same proficiency.  Has a wheel calibration tool, individual hollow wheels and a start button.

    Can't say I have experience with a Channel Z on a goalie...I guess when you think about it, it can work.

    Channel Z on a goalie works fine, lots of grip. That being said, I only know of one goalie that has tried it and keeps using it despite everyone claiming to like it. 


  11. 3 hours ago, CigarScott said:

    Yeah, there seems to be some wide variances in the LS Edge holders. It was impossible for me to get my Step Steel (or my old Bauer steel) in my new holders that I had put on my new skates. I had to heat the holders with a heat gun to expand the plastic and use a dead blow hammer to get the runners in to place the first time. Now I swap my Step steel regularly without issue.

    Thats actually pretty common, to have to use a heat gun to get aftermarket steel to fit. I see it more with the Tuuk LS Edge holder than other brands but overall it's pretty common. 

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  12. 11 hours ago, JJP2222 said:

    I haven't been on here in a while but I'll add my two cents when I got my VH's (pre-True).  I have two different sized feet, by almost an inch. This is why I went the custom skate route.  My feet were 3D scanned at West Side in NYC (who are great btw), so you'd think the scan would pick up the differences. I got my skates and there was a ton of room in the skate for the smaller foot, it seemed to me that both were built off the same last.  We eventually solved it with foam, footbeds and multiple clampings but it's still not 'great' relative to the price.  If I go this route again (most likely) I'm expressly going to say that if you send me back two boots that are the same length I'm not taking delivery, I want two truly custom boots....  

    To be honest, you should not have accepted them if they were to your liking. True will either try and fix the issue or make you a new pair of skates if they cannot correct the fit issues of the first pair. They have been very easy for us to work with. 

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  13. 10 hours ago, strosedefence34 said:

    Just out of curiosity (I am not trying to start a war) why are people still choosing to go with True over CCM and Bauer?  Is True's custom process/ scanning that much different than the other two?

    I have a friend who had the option to go with custom True or CCM this was right before Bauer announced their custom program and he went with CCM because of all of the quality control issues with True and he is extremely happy with his CCMs.  FWIW my friend went through roughly 4 pairs of retail skates in a year nothing quite fit him perfectly he was constantly tinkering with foot booties and different things to improve the fit of his skates so it wasn't someone going with custom skates just for the hell of it he had fit issues.

    True still builds their skates from scratch and from the inside out. Bauer and CCM pick a last off a shelf and then customize the last. The way the skates are built is entirely different between True vs others. In fact, most True skates will last you many seasons compared to other brands which just aren't built with the same materials that would allow for such longevity. 

    For example, take a look at a pair of FT1 or Vapor 1X skates after a season of playing high-level hockey and then compare them to a pair of True skates. It will be clearly evident which skates are built with more durable materials. 

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