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Posts posted by oldtrainerguy28
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8 minutes ago, JR Boucicaut said:Agreed; I did my best work when I worked out of a rink shop. Very easy to make an appointment and figure things out.
However, what Prosharp (and I do) with the profile testing is a great option. Having every size runner with different profiles on them is pretty cool.
sure if you can afford to have that much wrapped up in extra steel!!
Here is an NHL player that was diagonosed up close. It was first verified at the rink and then adjusted after a treadmill session.
Formally on one of those Pre-setups that some companies do not sure if they used Prosharp but some form of profiling as per height and weight etc in the first video. 2nd was after watching and blade alignment. The skates brand new out of the box were so far off its embarrassing.
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31 minutes ago, JR Boucicaut said:It was about the steel, not the profile.
What Bauer/Prosharp is going to do is offer custom profiles through the MyBauer portal.
Not to mention I never said anything negative about Prosharp as a company.
But the more I delve into profiling and blade alignment I can phafthom how people do profiles when A: you have never seen them skate or seen a video of them skate.
B: Confirm the fit and blade alignment.
I would 70% of the Bauer skates I get in are misaligned. Left skate is usually bent by the trigger and right is toe in heel out.
If you go by the insole v cut in the back of most if the newer skates it's amazing how far off some of them are. If say probably the main reason Mathews switched to CCM. Could never get on his blade the way he wanted. IMO.
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Just now, SkateWorksPNW said:I assume you meant to say, now THEY pissed everyone off. Not YOU. I didn't do anything 😉
You know it!! Hahahaha
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4 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:I find this to be the most interesting part of the entire situation
"Bauer Hockey has continuously invested into its newest skate collections, including with the recent launch of the new Bauer Pulse Ti and Pulse blades. The Pulse Ti utilizes a titanium coating to increase durability and offers premium in-game edge retention.
Additionally, the new Bauer steel product line features the highest-performing steel on the market, and a new custom program through the MyBauer platform. New blade profiles were developed and tested in partnership with premier skate profiler, ProSharp, and allow for greater ice contact and maximum consistency throughout each stride and turn."
But they should have had it ready to launch prior to making Step stop so that the NHL had time to test and endorse. Now you just pissed everyone off. Highly likely they wont be as receptive now.
especially the profiling aspect.
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1 hour ago, stick9 said:Well, right now you have Tydan, Massive and Bionic all making replacement steel for the edge holder. Massive is selling their product on hockey monkey.
I'm no patent laywer, but this makes me think they found something.
you have BT ad well. 2 of them have gotten letters.
Massive is European is it not?? that's another kettle of fish
if you found a company able to build the same Quality in China you'd be laughing. US lawyers wouldn't touch it.
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2 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:Aren't pro stock Bauer steel different than retail? I've seen some on eBay that say made in Canada....
That was mentioned above by JR. However myself I still don't feel it sharpens as well or holds the edge as well. .my personal opinion. Its said to be the same but I don't think its finished the same to have the same edge retention
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41 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Correct. I spoke with all of them and they have yet to hear anything and are hoping they dont. Until then,. Its business as usual for them.
That's 100 false. They are not telling you the truth. 2 of them have recieved them in the past!
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1 hour ago, JR Boucicaut said:It is. Same Sandvik composition.
Also, Bauer offers pro teams a LS3 version which has a more game-ready shape.It maybe but there is something not the same as the Step. It maybe the same base but isnt the same quality.
And I spoke to 2 eqm managers that are debating switching to CCM holders.
I know many more are not happy. This maybe a different case then last time
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36 minutes ago, JR Boucicaut said:I'm just going to go ahead and assume that this is a shot at me, because I'm the only person who has posted in this thread that everyone knows what I've done and where I've been, because I've been transparent since 2004. I have absolutely nothing to "gain or perks to be had."
I'm merely stating the facts that are out there. To recap - Bauer had a patent. They felt a brand, STEP, was in violation of said patent. They decided to bring a lawsuit forward, and they reached a settlement. And I know it sucks for STEP, and I know it sucks for Canadian dealers, even the ones who sold across the border. But that's how it goes.
Ya. you made so much and got soooooooo much free stuff.
Hows that new Maclaren. ik on my 3rd now that I have my 7000 sqft mansion.
it's a pro shop and skate sharpening. Nobody is getting rich here but Bauer.
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5 hours ago, psulion22 said:Why would most pros care (or even know) what kind of steel they're using? They have EQMs to care for them. Things like durability and edge retention matter to guys like us that want to have sharp skates without having to pay for sharpenings or steel more often. They matter to an EQM who has to sharpen and maintain dozens of pairs of skates/runners in a short period of time. As long as the skates are sharp and cut to give the characteristics the player likes, pros don't give one second's thought to what brand of steel is on the skate. Bauer isn't going to alienate any pros by doing this. They may piss off a few EQMs who have to cut skates more often, but that's not likely to affect thier usage amongst players in the league.
You haven't been in an NHL dressing room before have you? I was in Toronto's yesterday and both the Bauer and CCM guy were there. He is not happy about it at all. Another guy in a Canadian city is livid. He has 4 guys that came to him already and told him to buy every pair available. They don't want Bauer steel as it is.
If you think NHL players dont think about edge retention your crazy.
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14 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:I had only asked them about a matching set as that was the only way they said they would sell to a retial store.
I guess I'd have to call back. If they would sell both I'd buy.
Team profiling would be a breeze.
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2 hours ago, JR Boucicaut said:The profiler was at a decent price point. It’s the sharpener which is costly.
Agreed. I'd get the profiler if it was I was able.
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7 hours ago, Giltis said:I'm tempted to go to this place which uses it https://www.performaxx.ca/ next time I'm in Montreal and try it out.
If I do, I'll report back.
You should. I have been trying to buy a profilier for 2 years. They wont sell to anyone except NHL teams.
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On 10/5/2019 at 12:12 PM, boo10 said:Skates finally came in. Put them in the oven, slipped them on.....uh oh.....way too small. My feet are roughly size 7.75, but the skates they made for me were closer to a size 6.5. Even in a very deep knee bend, my toes were still curled up and jammed against the cap. They were so off it was almost comical. Shop just refunded my money and told me to think about whether I want to try True again or try something else.
I will say that the skates were very well made. No excess glue, bad stitching or anything else I've read about. They looked great and were on par with CCM and Bauer.
Sounds like a major fit error on the scan.
Never had that issue. Not that small anyway.
But not sure who they were able to refund?
Very odd mentioned.
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5 hours ago, z1ggy said:I take most reviews from reddit and places where toxicity seems to run rampant with a grain of salt. My True's were totally fine as far as initial QC goes and unless I run them over with a lawn mower, I don't think that will really change.
The shop I got them from told me they have done over 500 pairs and rarely have had major issues. Of course they want to sell skates but as a small time shop I don't think they'd want to carry product that was junk and lose customers or prevent them from coming back due to bad experiences.
What shop was this??
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2 hours ago, iceman8310 said:This has turned into an argument rather than a preference discussion. Everyone is different. When I do free skating I don't tie my laces, I skate to build my other muscles and balance. if a skate truly fits you properly, you shouldn't have to lace it. What I mean by that is the skate should be perfect. Lacing should be an added benefit. Just my two cents. When I would do power skating and skating clinics when I was younger we had a European teacher. First thing they said was take out your laces. In russia a lot of players learn to skate without laces You need to do what works for you and that's that.
Not sure where you see an argument and especially quoting me about me thinking Daryl is a great guy? It just so happens I have worked with him for 3 years every summer. I don't agree with his technique but learned why and how he does it and at the end, we agreed that there is good and bad doing this way.
Where is the argument?
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But you cant play a game with no laces so while strengthening may happen it's not practical. Its interesting
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5 hours ago, Vet88 said:Try this - lace up and go for a skate and concentrate on what your feet are telling you. My bet is it is bugger all, you aren't getting any feedback from the blade and the way it is working under your foot. Now go for a skate with your laces undone, every little twist, edge, catch in the ice is felt. We are genetically designed to do anything as energy efficient as we possibly can BUT... the brain has to know what is going on so it can work out how to be energy efficient. Laced up and you are still skating so the brain thinks this is ok, the only thing it's got to compare with is how you walk and run, it knows no different. Unlaced and now your muscles are having to work to not only control your balance over the blade but also how you put power INTO the blade - this part is really important. Maximum transfer of energy without the crutch of the boot. Your foot can't fold, you will feel it immediately. Your alignment straightens up, it has to as your brain demands it because it now knows what it is costing you to skate unbalanced over the blade.
I skate every day, 1 - 2 hours a day (and always with no laces) so it's hard for me to give a figure for someone who skates once or twice a week. But skaters I have coached show literally immediate results during a single lesson. Yes, you are skating slow but the way you start balancing over the blade is immediately noticeable. That wobble is important, your brain is now working out how to use your muscles in the most efficient manner to control the edge. Every time you skate you are improving. Video yourself, especially from front or behind so you can see how your blade starts to straighten up under your foot. For those who are fortunate to have skating dna then this will be just a tune up but for the other 95% of the population out there (that is the number who pronate / supinate / have alignment issues) then this becomes a revelation. there is always something in the way you skate that needs improving and skating with laces undone brutally exposes it. For me one of the key things about this is it isn't dependent on the skate you are in, a coach who is training you or even how long you have skated. It's all about you, your body alignment and how well you can control the skate blade. Teach yourself with built in auto correction (your brain).
But shouldn't the blades be realigned properly to do this? Doing this on skates with bad alignment makes zero sense? Aligned yes....
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On 9/21/2019 at 11:27 PM, caveman27 said:I'd have to disagree with this thought. No one who is learning to skate does so with the laces undone. That makes things worse. I've never heard of any ice skating teacher, hockey, figure skating or speed skating, telling all the students to undo their laces so as not to use it as a crutch.
You need to go to LA. Daryl Evan's I believe his name is skates with no laces at all. Great teacher and awesome gentlemen. I personally disagree but after talking for hours with him we came to a mutual understanding of the bio mechanics and his theory.
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16 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Thats ridiculous. It never takes us longer than 10 days to get anything from CCM.
Probably referring to the steel. Although I did 2 weeks for holders. Back log.
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9 hours ago, the_game said:Is there any material differences in a 'boost' versus a normal shim on a skate?
There are external and internal ones. The external is same as you see with most skate lifts/shims. However, I have found a guy to make ones that are white so they blend in with the holder much better.
The internal is a proprietary system and material.
Who's did you see @Buzz_LightBeer?
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49 minutes ago, jvincig01 said:Can someone tell me which laces come with True skates? I absolutely love them.
I'd say they are most similar to the XL2000 molded tip.


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