Gorgeous, gorgeous skates... I could never get my foot halfway into a Vapor, but you can't argue with craftsmanship. Incredibly, there are still some Sportchek stores around Toronto that have stock of brand new Vapor 10's -- I saw them in my questing for Flexlites. Thanks for the help on my holder dilemma, by the way. I'm still dithering on Pitch or Cobra - I know the Pitch's are all-around superior, but since nobody around here stocks them, I'll probably go with the Cobras.