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brisebois is going to get canned, and i feel good for him cuz its tough to play when a whole city hates you. ribiero will be back i think, kovalev i dont think so. modano here would be a long shot, but could see it if ribiero was bought out

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brisebois is going to get canned, and i feel good for him cuz its tough to play when a whole city hates you. ribiero will be back i think, kovalev i dont think so. modano here would be a long shot, but could see it if ribiero was bought out

Ribeiro would more likely be a trade than a buyout in my mind.

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Bonks likely to play as their 3rd line center and there is talk of Koivu or Ribeiro getting the boot.

Where have you heard these rumours?

Few Sites. It'll be tied into them getting another center. Modano, Turgeon have been rumoured. They are apperantly putting a a package together for Crosby, but even Gainey said theres almost no chance they'll accept it. They fully expected Lecavalier to come next year as well.

New Toronto Rumours: Foppas agent was in the city yesterday, but nobody really knew. Apperantly he and Nassy would be willing to take huge paycuts to play with a contender, both would like to play with Sundin, but I believe playing with eachother is their main focus, Sundin would just be icing on that cake. LeClair will be here or Boston to play with Lindros or Thornton.

- Personally, I don't believe either. But they are the latest

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Bonks likely to play as their 3rd line center and there is talk of Koivu or Ribeiro getting the boot.

Where have you heard these rumours?

Not a big surprise considering how well they get along. Ribeiro doesn't seem like Bob Gainey's type of player but he's popular locally.

I will bre shocked and dismayed if Koivu doesn't re-sign. Ribs is good, but I wouldnt' mind if he went...as long as Saku/Ryder/Kovalev and Theo all re-sign.

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Bonks likely to play as their 3rd line center and there is talk of Koivu or Ribeiro getting the boot.

Where have you heard these rumours?

Not a big surprise considering how well they get along. Ribeiro doesn't seem like Bob Gainey's type of player but he's popular locally.

I will bre shocked and dismayed if Koivu doesn't re-sign. Ribs is good, but I wouldnt' mind if he went...as long as Saku/Ryder/Kovalev and Theo all re-sign.

I think Kovalev will go back in Pittsburgh to play with Mr. Lemieux and Crosby.

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I heard about Nazzy wanting to play with Sundin as well. Looks like Toronto might have an older, but intersting team next year.

Its a youth movement when you consider us before. I don't know if I consider them old. I mean 31... is old now? Players are playing into their 40's and major contribors into their late 30s. I agree guys like Niewy and Roberts are "old" Leetch and Belfour as well, but a 31 and 32 year old considered old? You can wear your age a bit differently, like Nolan Vs. Sundin (Nolans a year younger), but neither of these guys fit that bill. You could make a case for Foppa though.

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I don't think I can agree Theo

Sundin - 31

Belfour - 40

Stajan - 21

Tucker- 30

McCabe - 30

Kaberle - 27

Klee - 34

I don't know Theo. Adding Forsberg and Naslund at 31 and 32. I can't really say I'd consider it an over the hill team. with the team being made up of mostly 30+ players. Most players don't crack the NHL till mid 20's, then it takes a few years to break that. Those are all of the signed players too, theres a handful of RFAs that lower it. I can't see anybody signing Naslund and Foppa, when they have a good core, saying its a bad move, or even becoming old.

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Its not even a rumour. Its like its just assumed. It's weird as hell. Toronto does weird stuff though. Like Gretzky ASKED to come here and they said No. I honestly have no idea what to expect. Rumours Nolan won't be bought out, rumours he will. Players rumoured (at one point) to come here/ stay here are:

Niewy

Roberts

Domi

Mogilny

Demitra

Palffy

O'Neil

Carter (Anson)

Kariya

Selanne

Lang

Zubov

Tverdovsky

Savage

LeClair

Thornton

Allison

Lindros

Foote

Niedermyer

Bulin

CuJo

Potvin

Snow

Fernandez

Naslund

Forsberg

Bertuzzi

Schultz

Kovalev

O'Sullivan (via going back into the draft)

Then rumoured to make the team is Steen, Cola, Wellwood, Vorobiev, Kukemberg, Williams.

It's crazy here. Theres no way to say what is a real rumour. Lindros will be here, if JFJ wants him. Other than that I have no idea.

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Players rumoured (at one point) to come here/ stay here are:

Lang

CuJo

lang leaving detroit highly unlikely. but tor can have cujo, hten you will beasured the cup will not return to tor any time soon. he couldn't do it in detroit.

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I'd love for Pittsburgh to pick up Cujo to mentor MAF. He seems like a good guy even after the Detroit organization completely treated him like trash and he STILL came back to carry them after Hasek went down.

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I'd love for Pittsburgh to pick up Cujo to mentor MAF. He seems like a good guy even after the Detroit organization completely treated him like trash and he STILL came back to carry them after Hasek went down.

Don't they already have 3 or 4 young to young veteran goalies in the system? A lot of the rumors are seriously out of whack, especially in Pitt. If they signed 1/4 of the guys rumored to go there, they would be well over the cap.

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I'd love for Pittsburgh to pick up Cujo to mentor MAF. He seems like a good guy even after the Detroit organization completely treated him like trash and he STILL came back to carry them after Hasek went down.

Don't they already have 3 or 4 young to young veteran goalies in the system? A lot of the rumors are seriously out of whack, especially in Pitt. If they signed 1/4 of the guys rumored to go there, they would be well over the cap.

I think they're going to sign a veteran goaltender, let Chiodo and Caron split the time in WBS. Probably someone at the end of the line like an Osgood.

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And, I don't fully buy into the everyone wants to come to pittsburgh idea.

I think they'll end up with;

A veteran goaltender

Kovalev

Domi

A pretty good/not great defenseman, probably Aucoin.

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And, I don't fully buy into the everyone wants to come to pittsburgh idea.

I think they'll end up with;

A veteran goaltender

Kovalev

Domi

A pretty good/not great defenseman, probably Aucoin.

and Mario making 1/3 of the overall payroll.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

They honestly don't need much, but I do think they should find a couple of veterans capable of winning faceoffs and playing a little defense when they actually do have a lead.

Mario - Recchi - ?

Malkin - Crosby - ?

It's honestly not a bad way to start.

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Supposedly Mario's moving to LW for a Mario - Crosby - Recchi first line. Then a Malone - Malkin - FA line two

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Supposedly Mario's moving to LW for a Mario - Crosby - Recchi first line. Then a Malone - Malkin - FA line two

ive heard that one too ,thatd be nice for crosby. does anyone know the rest of the players crosby and lemeiux train with? i know theres a bunch of them ,i just cant remember

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And, I don't fully buy into the everyone wants to come to pittsburgh idea.

I think they'll end up with;

A veteran goaltender

Kovalev

Domi

A pretty good/not great defenseman, probably Aucoin.

Aucoin? He had a Very good to great season last year and will demand big money...I would geuss a little over 4 million. And the Isles will get into a bidding match with whoever wants him anyways, they can't afford to lose him.

I'm a Yankees fan, I have no problems with my team using some swing to get a team to grossly overpay for somebody, especially with the cap. If Aucoin is going to command 4mil then hell, better off just going after one of the players the Avs won't be able to keep.

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I think the Pens would be better off splitting Mario and Recchi. I expect their lines to look like this

Lemieux - Crosby - Malone

Recchi - Malkin - Kovalev

I'd lock up Kovalev now with them. They obviously just got a bit better from the draft and the oppurtunity for him to break in a great Russian star while Lemieux can bring up crosby? Works out perfectly. I believe they should trade Cheodo now, he won't be anything with them. They are committed to MA Fleury. He is a capable starter, share the wealth and get some help at D.

Langs is apperantly a buy-out candidate for the Wings. With Stevie Y and Datsyuk, you can't pay a 3rd liner Lang type $. This is what we are hearing in Toronto. Also heard the Leafs are going after Foppa hard as of Aug. 1. I'm just waiting for my Fernandez for Nolan rumour to pick up :)

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I think the Pens would be better off splitting Mario and Recchi. I expect their lines to look like this

Lemieux - Crosby - Malone

Recchi - Malkin - Kovalev

I'd lock up Kovalev now with them. They obviously just got a bit better from the draft and the oppurtunity for him to break in a great Russian star while Lemieux can bring up crosby? Works out perfectly. I believe they should trade Cheodo now, he won't be anything with them. They are committed to MA Fleury. He is a capable starter, share the wealth and get some help at D.

Langs is apperantly a buy-out candidate for the Wings. With Stevie Y and Datsyuk, you can't pay a 3rd liner Lang type $. This is what we are hearing in Toronto. Also heard the Leafs are going after Foppa hard as of Aug. 1. I'm just waiting for my Fernandez for Nolan rumour to pick up :)

If this is their lineup, they will be great to watch. Don't forget Morozov. Their PP would be amazing.

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I'd lock up Kovalev now with them...the oppurtunity for him to break in a great Russian star...

If tutoring an up and coming Russian talent is part of the decision for Kovalev, Montreal's got 2 for him to work with...Kostitsyn and Perezhogin.

Okay, I'm harping. I'll let it go.

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I think the Pens would be better off splitting Mario and Recchi. I expect their lines to look like this

Lemieux - Crosby - Malone

Recchi - Malkin - Kovalev

I'd lock up Kovalev now with them. They obviously just got a bit better from the draft and the oppurtunity for him to break in a great Russian star while Lemieux can bring up crosby? Works out perfectly. I believe they should trade Cheodo now, he won't be anything with them. They are committed to MA Fleury. He is a capable starter, share the wealth and get some help at D.

Langs is apperantly a buy-out candidate for the Wings. With Stevie Y and Datsyuk, you can't pay a 3rd liner Lang type $. This is what we are hearing in Toronto. Also heard the Leafs are going after Foppa hard as of Aug. 1. I'm just waiting for my Fernandez for Nolan rumour to pick up :)

If this is their lineup, they will be great to watch. Don't forget Morozov. Their PP would be amazing.

I thought Morozov signed a contract in Russia for more than he made with the Pens last time and had no plans to come back. At one point there was talk the Pens were going to expect him to take a pay cut.

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Langs is apperantly a buy-out candidate for the Wings. With Stevie Y and Datsyuk, you can't pay a 3rd liner Lang type $. This is what we are hearing in Toronto. Also heard the Leafs are going after Foppa hard as of Aug. 1. I'm just waiting for my Fernandez for Nolan rumour to pick up :)

Speaking of Datsyuk. I remeber there was a thread not to long ago, about him staying in Russia this season. Anyone know if that is still the case?

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