LickerLongTail 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2004 Does anyone on here have experence with these sticks??? Im interested in getting one and just wanted to see if anyone could give feedback on themThanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted May 4, 2004 good feel, very durable but lacking in "zip" on shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted May 4, 2004 http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?showtopic=458Incase you didn't see what I thought of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGM 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I would agree--very durable, great balance and has way better feel for the puck than any of the Eastons, Louisville, etc sticks. I have 2 and both have lasted for over 2 seasons. I think the shot is fairly decent but probably not as responsive as a some of the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LickerLongTail 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Good review EAZY B97 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Demon 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Speaking of reviews, our members should be doing more. I feel that the reviews that are there really come out of true knowledge and are very helpful to my intelligence level when it comes to hockey equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bo from Boston 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 The Laser is a good stick - I have used it but preferred something a bit heavier. From a durability standpoint, it is far better than any Easton, Louisville, CCM, Bauer, etc.. product. It may lack some of the whip action since it is not hollow and thusly is not as springy as other OPS. The lowest flex Busch is stiffer than the stiffest competitors product. You need to have soft hands to take hard passes as it is not a forgiving blade. I guess in a nutshell if you want the weight of a wood stick with unsurpassed durability and extremely rigid flex, this is the one. If you like no flex at all, I recommend getting the Busch Balance...this stick will easily last you an entire season. You will see many OPS's shatter over it as people slash at it. You get the pleasure of laughing at them knowing they will spend another $100+ replacing whatever it was they were using..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 The Laser is a good stick - I have used it but preferred something a bit heavier. From a durability standpoint, it is far better than any Easton, Louisville, CCM, Bauer, etc.. product. It may lack some of the whip action since it is not hollow and thusly is not as springy as other OPS. The lowest flex Busch is stiffer than the stiffest competitors product. You need to have soft hands to take hard passes as it is not a forgiving blade. I guess in a nutshell if you want the weight of a wood stick with unsurpassed durability and extremely rigid flex, this is the one. If you like no flex at all, I recommend getting the Busch Balance...this stick will easily last you an entire season. You will see many OPS's shatter over it as people slash at it. You get the pleasure of laughing at them knowing they will spend another $100+ replacing whatever it was they were using..... i thought the laser blades were injected with foam?and you used i tbut wanted a heavier OPS? the laser is like 530 g Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Not sure about the blade, but there is supposedly a foam insert up the shaft of the Laser. As well I found my Vector to be more durable than the Laser still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles39 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 I have one and absolutely love it. Itr is by far the best stick I have used. I don't feel that I lose zip on my on my shots. I think they stayed the same. This stick is a tank as everyone has said. It is very durable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PH_Hockey2 4 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 What is the difference between the graf laser and the graf goldline stick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGM 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Laser is lighter, more for forwards---Gold is heavier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iceburg19 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 the graf laser is my first one piece stick, i get a good shot off but when i receive a hard pass the blade is unforgiving,bo from boston you hit right on the head,most of the time it sits in my closet .$140. back up stick.are all one piece sticks like that?it seems like i dont feel the puck on the blade,i went back to my two piece sticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bo from Boston 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I use the Busch Titanium now but the stick of choice is the Busch Balance which is over 600 gms. I think there are 2 schools of thought on sticks. A lot of guys want the stick to improve their shot. I shoot the puck just fine so durability is the most important thing to me. Brett Hull, Kovalchuk and others use these tapered sticks and can smoke the puck...BUT, they don't shoot it as hard as Al McInnis who uses a wood stick. That being said, I think the advantage is in the head of the player. Upper body strength, good release and form are the essentials to a great shot, not the stick you use. All of the Busch offerings are filled with a carbon foam for strength and rigidity. This is not only in the blade, but thru the entire shaft. This is not different from any other manufacturer (blade only). The difference is in the thickness of the wall and if there is a reinforcing material. The lighter the stick, the thinner the wall and the less durable the blade / stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackhawks4ever 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 My biggest grief with the Laser was it was so whippy. I hard a "stiff" flex and loved the "wheel barrel" handle and could stick handle like a mad mad with it but when it can time to shoot, it had to be a wrister because otherwise it like shooting with a noodle. Durability was excellent and good balance. It was my first OPS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number_22 2 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 If you didn`t know, Busch is bringing out a new stick, called the G-Force. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bo from Boston 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 Yes - the G force will be Busch's first entry into the Tapered market and it will be much lighter than the Laser. Sundin was using them at the end of this season....they will be introduced in August. The G-Force is Graf's name...I don't know what Busch will call their stick yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number_22 2 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 It`s called G-Force too. Graf just adapts the original names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ponty 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 I have their shaft called the Silver Line. Regular hosel but its a great shaft. One of the lightest I have ever used. Hopefully this new tapered one will be in he same family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bo from Boston 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2004 22 - I should have figured that out :)I have never seen their shafts other than for sale on their website. Francesco (the sales manager) gave me some the background on the G-Force that I put above. If its as light as he says, I probably will buy 1 but only to check out. I still have a couple of Balances that I use here and there that rock. For the new user, it sucks that the only introduction to these products that they have are the laser and goldline. These are products made to be less sturdy than the Balance as the Balance was actually never approved for use below AHL. It was actually banned by the NCAA since it did not meet breakage standards and could cause very serious injury. That plus the fact that in 1995 this stick cost $180 made it very rare. The first one I purchased had a 3 year warranty. I caught the blade in the boni door at about 18 months and it was sent to the factory and replaced immediately. When Itech started selling them the warranty went to 12 months. The other big issue was the unusual curve selection. Since lots of Russians and Czech's were using the stick, there were some wacky curves and wedges being produced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number_22 2 Report post Posted May 7, 2004 Since I live in Switzerland I was pretty much at the source of the Busch sticks and I remember when they first came. Over here a lot of players already used them at the time of their release, since it was a swiss product, so there was some identification with the brand for some of the players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bo from Boston 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2004 Any Idea why they have not developed curves to match the popular easton models?? I think they would have more success if they had some standard curves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number_22 2 Report post Posted May 7, 2004 I don`t know really, here in Switzerland a lot of curves are available, but most of the players have their custom curves, because you can get the Busch sticks custom made at very good conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bo from Boston 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2004 Do you have access to a curve chart for the Balance that you could send me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackhawks4ever 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2004 Will the G-Force have the wheel barrel handle?? I liked that!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites