NHL Skate Hollows: Great Info

[jimmy 194]

All four rinks in my building are sand based. The coldest rink in the building is at one end while the dedicated figure rink(with softer ice) is at the other end. Our rinks are lined up next to each other. Our ice is good enough for Olympic figure skaters to train on.

You lucky bastard! Your ice is probably smooth too, isnt it? That's just aint right for hockey! We need soft ice, better yet nice puddles that never freeze, ski jump humps in the ice so the puck can change height at will, big drop off near the zam door, sub-freezing air temps so your ears fall off, and ice cold showers. Now THAT's a hockey rink. None of this pansey figure skater crap. I bet you have heated locker rooms too, don't you. Ohhhh, the insanity. :D

[DarkStar50 679]

Actually, with four rinks the architects blew it on the locker rooms! They are not big enough so everybody used to complain. I say the game is on the ice, not in the locker room. As for the figure skaters, they just put their skates on in front of rink 1, no locker room for them to speak of. Our locker rooms are not heated but our ice IS pretty damn smooth. That also has a lot to do with your Zam crew. We have the best guys with lots of years experience maintaining our ice. They make the difference, not sand base or concrete.

[Chadd 916]

didn't know that but from what i've seen, what i just said holds true. Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in warmer rinks that are used for figure skating and ice hockey. the rinks that i've been to on concrete, have been colder and dryer places strictly for hockey.

At the rink around the corner from my house there is one sand and one concrete and it varies on what sheet is better at any given time.

[DarkStar50 679]

didn't know that but from what i've seen, what i just said holds true. Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in warmer rinks that are used for figure skating and ice hockey. the rinks that i've been to on concrete, have been colder and dryer places strictly for hockey.

At the rink around the corner from my house there is one sand and one concrete and it varies on what sheet is better at any given time.

Check the chillers. They are just cutting corners on $.

[Chadd 916]

didn't know that but from what i've seen, what i just said holds true. Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in warmer rinks that are used for figure skating and ice hockey. the rinks that i've been to on concrete, have been colder and dryer places strictly for hockey.

At the rink around the corner from my house there is one sand and one concrete and it varies on what sheet is better at any given time.

Check the chillers. They are just cutting corners on $.

The owner used to "tweak" the chillers from time to time. Now it's generally more based on what has been taking place on the ice and who cut the ice.

[XeF4 0]

Check the chillers. They are just cutting corners on $.

possibly, but a few degrees difference can save a lot of money for ice rinks.

[DarkStar50 679]

Check the chillers. They are just cutting corners on $.

possibly, but a few degrees difference can save a lot of money for ice rinks.

And ruin your rink's reputation for quality of ice.

[mojo122 538]

Check the chillers. They are just cutting corners on $.

possibly, but a few degrees difference can save a lot of money for ice rinks.

And ruin your rink's reputation for quality of ice.

And also increase the risk of injury to the skaters.

[jd77 0]

yeah, hard ice is typically on a concrete foundation, and soft ice is on sand.

Um...no...

The foundation has nothing to do with it...I have skated on really hard ice that was sand-based, and slush on concrete slabs. Temperatures and humidity are the factors. The better that you can remove heat (that's right, you aren't making it colder, you're removing heat) and reduce humidity, the better your sheet will be, regardless of the foundation.

The mineral content of the water is also a factor; the higher the mineral content, the lower the freezing temperature of the water.

[asdfa 0]

how much of ice hardness is dependant on air temperature? i've practice in warm rinks where the ice was soft, as well as frigid rinks where the ice was also soft, so does air temperature make a big difference or is it mostly the chillers?

[biff44 0]

Actually, with four rinks the architects blew it on the locker rooms! They are not big enough so everybody used to complain. I say the game is on the ice, not in the locker room. As for the figure skaters, they just put their skates on in front of rink 1, no locker room for them to speak of. Our locker rooms are not heated but our ice IS pretty damn smooth. That also has a lot to do with your Zam crew. We have the best guys with lots of years experience maintaining our ice. They make the difference, not sand base or concrete.

Shame on you! The gentlemanly thing to do in that case, obviously, is to let the women change in the locker room with your team. Talk about warming up for a game!

[Duder84 0]

Actually, with four rinks the architects blew it on the locker rooms! They are not big enough so everybody used to complain. I say the game is on the ice, not in the locker room. As for the figure skaters, they just put their skates on in front of rink 1, no locker room for them to speak of. Our locker rooms are not heated but our ice IS pretty damn smooth. That also has a lot to do with your Zam crew. We have the best guys with lots of years experience maintaining our ice. They make the difference, not sand base or concrete.

Shame on you! The gentlemanly thing to do in that case, obviously, is to let the women change in the locker room with your team. Talk about warming up for a game!

i whole heartedly agree, not enough gentlemen nowadays in our society :D

[J-Shera 0]

Sorry im dumb guys, whats something a little duller then 3/8ths, its a little bit to much bite for me.

[J-Shera 0]

bump, anyone know my question.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

13/32"

[J-Shera 0]

Thanks, so should any shop be able to do that. Or only super skillful people like yourself :lol:

On the card I have from my shop it goes

-2 1/4

-1 3/8

0 1/2

+1 5/8

+2 3/4

If found that anything from 1/2 to 3/4 is to dull, while 3/8 is to sharp

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

What kind of machine do they have?

[J-Shera 0]

I will have to check next time im in there, should be sometime this week. thanks JR

[chippa13 1844]

didn't know that but from what i've seen, what i just said holds true. Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in warmer rinks that are used for figure skating and ice hockey. the rinks that i've been to on concrete, have been colder and dryer places strictly for hockey.

You proved JR and the rest of the world correct with your own comment.

"Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in WARMER RINKS......"

Like JR said, the foundation has little to do with the hardness of the ice, but air temperature, ice temparature, and humidity have a lot to do with it.

[XeF4 0]

I know.

[pizzakid13 5]

can somebody post the hollows from shallowest to deepest? i am horrible at fractions.

[DarkStar50 679]

didn't know that but from what i've seen, what i just said holds true. Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in warmer rinks that are used for figure skating and ice hockey. the rinks that i've been to on concrete, have been colder and dryer places strictly for hockey.

You proved JR and the rest of the world correct with your own comment.

"Ice surfaces with sand foundations are usually in WARMER RINKS......"

Like JR said, the foundation has little to do with the hardness of the ice, but air temperature, ice temparature, and humidity have a lot to do with it.

One final thought on sand based rinks: Some rinks will actually go bankrupt! Then, if you have a sand based rink, it is easier to remove the pipes and re-sell them to try and get some of your investment(materials) back after losing your shirt in the rink business. This is part of the decision making process in how you build your rink besides location, local weather conditions(humidity, temps), and if you will keep your ice down all year long.

[lesterhenson 0]

If found that anything from 1/2 to 3/4 is to dull, while 3/8 is to sharp

Hollow has nothing to do with how sharp the blade is...

[jimmy 194]

If found that anything from 1/2 to 3/4 is to dull, while 3/8 is to sharp

Hollow has nothing to do with how sharp the blade is...

True, but is does have something to do with how sharp it "feels".