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What kind of computer do you have?

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dont count on vista coming out anytime soon. Its slated for some time in 2007 now, but with a lot less features. Its pretty much going to be windows xp service pack 3 with an extra optional skin. woooohooo. Dont get a dell laptop, they are very cheaply made. Get an IBM or a Toshiba

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Vapor's gonna be happy, my brother just bought a Mac Book for college... Hasn't arrived yet, though, and it's been two weeks.

The only things I even remember about my comp are:

ATI Radeon 9600 Graphics Card (WAY Outdated)

512 MB RAM

and 2.0 GHZ Pentium 4 Processer

It's pretty old, but not as old as a lot of people's PC's on here...

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looks like you are describing a macbook

I think so too. My Grandma has one and its f**king amazing.

AIM can be downloaded on to it, I think she has Appleworks or something like that for typing papers.

If you get the upgrade for high speed it is WWAAAAAYYYYYY worth it. Theses things are sick.

I am %75 percent sure it is an IBook, but I am %1000000000000 sure it is an apple.

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I hate the mac version of aim. I suggest to all mac users a great little program named adium. You can chat with aim, icq, yahoo, and msn users with the same client. It is ultra customizable and very powerfull.

There is a mac version of Microsoft office which isnt half bad.

The old base laptop from apple was the iBook. They were rather thick, and came with a 14" screen. The new base laptop is the macbook, it comes with a 13" widescreen glossy display and is avalible in black or white.

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Wow, that is a monster setup. Why not more ram though?

I did not anticipate needing it. Plus I'm always looking to upgrade, so I didn't want to get stuck with alot of expensive ram that i couldn't take to my next system. I know my next one is going to be a Core 2 Duo, so I can take my old ram with me and add more maybe, but my main focus now will be setting up my SLI this time finally :D

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I hate the mac version of aim. I suggest to all mac users a great little program named adium. You can chat with aim, icq, yahoo, and msn users with the same client. It is ultra customizable and very powerfull.

There is a mac version of Microsoft office which isnt half bad.

The old base laptop from apple was the iBook. They were rather thick, and came with a 14" screen. The new base laptop is the macbook, it comes with a 13" widescreen glossy display and is avalible in black or white.

Is there an open office port for mac?

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Is there an open office port for mac?

NeoOffice is based on Open Office and you don't need X11 to get it going.

NeoOffice home page

I'm trying it out on my laptop. I have Microsoft Office for Mac on my desktop, and I didn't want to get another license.

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These days, windows PCs are less usefull than Macs.  A Mac can run anything, a windows pc... cant.

Just wondering what you mean by that, because I'm not finding myself able to think of any of these things a Mac can do that a Windows PC can't. I'm not trying to be an ass, seriously, I can't think of what things you have in mind.

And to stay on topic...

My System:

Dell 20.1" Widescreen LCD

AMD64 3500+ 2.20GHz

DFI NF4 Ultra Motherboard

1GB OCZ Gold DDR RAM (Dual Channel)

Nvidia Geforce 6800GT PCI-E Video Card

250GB SATA Segate HDD

80GB IDE Western Digital HDD

80GB IDE Western Digital HDD

40GB IDE Segate HDD

NEC 2510 DVD+/-RW Drive

Logitech MX3100 Wireless Keyboard/Mouse

Logitech X-230 Speakers

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Is there an open office port for mac?

Yes, there is an OpenOffice port for OS X, but as jcp2 has alluded, you require X11 to run it. This is free and on one of the CDs. I find launching OpenOffice (and X11) to be very slow and the program itself to be slow as well. I can't remember off hand but I believe cut and paste is not seamless between X11 apps and OS X- I think there is some intermediate step you need to go through (something like copy first in OO, THEN copy from the main X11 window, THEN you can paste into OS X), but I could be wrong. I keep it around because it seems to understand a few more text file formats than Microsoft Office does, and read/write the same ones better.

Why there isn't an OS X native port is beyond me. I guess there just aren't enough Mac users to make it worthwhile. OO on Windows is much more seamless.

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Get an IBM or a Toshiba

Umm, IBM sold their PC group including the Thinkpad to Lenovo a couple of years ago.

I know, but they are still branded as IBM.

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3Ghz P4 (Intel MB, can't recall the model)

1 GB RAM

GeForce 5900 128MB (sad)

120 GB Western Digital HD

19" Viewsonic flat panel

Razer Diamondback mouse

Saitek gamer keyboard

Soundblaster Audigy

The statement that a Mac can do more than a PC is technically true but misleading. If that Mac is running boot camp it could run all PC apps and all Mac apps. But then if you ask me, a Mac is a Mac because of the Mac OS, not because of the Apple hardware. If you are running Windows on Apple hardware, congratulations, you are using a PC.

When you are a student, go ahead and rebel against the establishment, use a Mac. When you are ready to enter the workforce, welcome to the world of the PC.

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Ram is cheap, really cheap. And its really easy to swap out.

Easy to swap out, yes. But saying it's very cheap is misleading.

Good (high performance) memory in a DDR2 platform, at 2x 1gb can be well above $300 for it, nearing $500 for G.Skill or OCZ.

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Get an IBM or a Toshiba

Umm, IBM sold their PC group including the Thinkpad to Lenovo a couple of years ago.

I know, but they are still branded as IBM.

I am pretty sure that is not true where I live, anyways. In Canada they have the Lenovo name on them. Are they selling Thinkpads under the IBM name in the US ?

It is a shame because IBM made hands-down the best laptops in the business with Toshiba a distant second. My Thinkpad circa 96 had features that my Macbook Pro still does not have. But what really made IBM great was their customer service, if you had a problem with a Thinkpad under warranty they'd send you a Purolator box next day, service it with no questions, and extend your warranty by however long they had your computer, etc. I don't know how good Lenovo's CS is, but it just cannot be as good as IBM's, because IBM was the best.

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Speaking of which, I consider this computer as an investment. Do you think 4gb of RAM will let me run windows and Panther simultaneously and smoothly?

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