College Help?

[tyler33 0]

Hello, I have a couple of quick questions. Next year I am going off to college. I dont want to live in the dorms the first year so I was thinking about maybe going to a community or tech for the first year or 2. This way can also save me a little money? Can you transfer from a tech/community to a university after 1 year, and bypass the dorms? I found a private college in Sioux Falls that was nice but they dont start untill oct 8th and end june 23. That wouldn't work out for me.

What is the difference between business administration and business economics? I want to go into something with banking, like a VP, or manager, or something with innsurance if my real estate doesn't pan out. Either way after a while I plan to start a real estate company and be a broker, and start building investment properities after I save some money. I just want to have something to fall back on, and maybe something get my going on my feet.

Any help, ideas, or inputs would be great...thanks.

[mack 44]

I only got to browse thru it really quick and it's not a bad idea to go somewhere local/cheap for the first couple of years. It saves you money because if you're on any kind of budget it's a waste to pay private tuition for core classes.

[LkptTiger 1]

Take it from someone who just finished his first semester: DON'T GO!

[Vapor 0]

Your first semester is when you SHOULD go to the dorms. This is so you get to know people and make some good friends. Some credits transfer, some dont, you have to check with the school you are planning on trasnfering to to find out.

[kosydar 0]

I didn't really want to live in the dorms last year. I figured I knew enough kids going to my college that making friends wouldnt' be a big issue. I ended up living in the dorms and this year I live with 5 guys from my dorm. Its something that may not sound appealing, but I think its something that is a great experience.

[UMWhockey 0]

by the sounds of what you want to do, I would say go with the business economics. That will give you a much deeper background in finance, which if you want to be in the banking industry, is very important

[rogue 0]

Just curious, why don't you want to live in the dorms? I loved living in the dorms. So much actually that I did for my second year as well. Sure it may be kind of intimidating living in a building full of people that you don't know but they don't know any one either. It's so easy to get to be friends with people in the dorms. Most people's biggest fear is their roomate(s). Truth be told, your roommate doesn't matter a whole lot. Even if you don't get along the best with your roommate you can just go down the hall to someone else's room and hang out. Living in the dorms is also a great way to develop a sense of independence without being totally thrust into it. You learn to live on your own with out having to worry about leases, monthly bills, utilities and everything else right away. I don't think that I would ever recommend someone not live in the dorms. It's a great all around experience, its basically living with a ton of your friends.

As far as going to a different school for the first year or two, it gets complicated. I'm not sure about tech schools but you can transfer credits from smaller/cheaper/local colleges however it isn't as easy as it sounds. Most schools have standards and criteria that they want each class to fulfill. They will only give you the credits for the classes you took previously if the other school has the same structure and requirement for that class.

The way I typed it is kind of confusing (or atleast it was to me as I was typing it) so here's an example:

You start off at College A and want to transfer to College B.

At College A you took an introductory physics class (say PHY101).

When you go to College B an introductory physics class is required (either for general education or your major, doesn't matter), I'll call it SCI101

In a perfect world, you'd be all set, you need a Physics class at College B and you took one at College A, they say O.K. and give you the credits.

In reality theres many problems:

-If PHY101 was a 3 credit class and SCI101 is a 4 Credit class College B will most likely say it isn't equivalent and make you take SCI101.

-If SCI101 has a lab within it and PHY101 didn't you will probably won't get the credit transfered.

-If SCI101 includes topics that College B feels are necessary and PHY101 is missing some of those the credits probably won't transfer.

-If there is a huge disparity between the quality of education of College A and B the credits MAY not transfer.

I don't mean to say that it is a bad idea to transfer, it just requires alot of planning to make sure you aren't just throwing away some of your credits.

The best thing you can do is know what school (College B ) you plan on transferring to. You should then be able to contact that school and find out what classes you need at College B and what classes at College A will transfer to fulfill those requirements.

It is also a huge help if you know what major you want. I have a friend who is transferring this coming semester and of the 15 credits he was taking at the beginning of this past semester, only 4 are required general eds. or would go toward his major. Since the other 11 credits he was taking would have brought his GPA down he dropped them and ended up paying $5000 for 4 credits. Thats definitely something you don't want to do.

Hopefully I helped and my post wasn't too confusing.

[sc37 0]

I haven't lived in dorms and I'm in my 3rd year. Honestly, if you gotta pay your own way like me, I'm gonna try and save as much as I can. Your gonna either have to live in the dorms, or find some family member that you can stay with. Transfering won't help...as people pointed out, not all credits transfer which sucks, but if you can get full credit, go for it, and some college have rules where sophmores and above can live off campus unless with family. Or find a college with a housing problem, like mine did the first year I was there and quite a few wound up being able to live off campus.

And why won't that private college work for you with those dates?

[Stampeder 2]

Thats weird that you guys aren't allowed to live off campus. I don't know if I would of went to school if I had to live in some tiny dorm room.

[Cavs019 708]

Freshman dorming last semester was probably one of the most insane experiences of my life..........co-ed bathrooms?

[--notorious 0]

Freshman dorming last semester was probably one of the most insane experiences of my life..........co-ed bathrooms?

insane in a good or bad way?

[mack 44]

I think dorm life is a necessity when it comes to college life. You'll meet more people this way than anything, even if there's a chance you'll get a twat for a roommate. But yeah, the bathrooms are a heinous situation so if you're any kind of a germophobe you should go to school near home.

[Storm 0]

coed dorm, best 2 years of my life.

[Cavs019 708]

Insane in a good way........

[hocckey77 0]

Thats weird that you guys aren't allowed to live off campus. I don't know if I would of went to school if I had to live in some tiny dorm room.

a lot of colleges make you live in their dorms for atleast your freshman year. Illinois State make you live in dorms until your junior year.

[Vapor 0]

how can a college make you live in a dorm?

[kosydar 0]

A lot of private universities won't let you enroll in classes if you aren't enrolled in the dorms freshman year. I've only heard of small private colleges doing it, never bigger, public ones.

[Chadd 916]

A couple public schools in PA require you to live in the dorms for your freshman year. It's actually not a bad idea since the transition can be a difficult one for most people.

[tyler33 0]

Ive always been told that the colleges have to make at least freshmen stay in the dorms so they wont lose money for the empty dorm rooms. If everyone wanted to live off campus then there would be no purpose for the dorms that have been built. This could be false though.

Anyways I have been thinking a lot, and I looked at everything. Only 35 credits would transfer over to the university for me. I also found out that going to that school requires me to live in the dorms the first 2 years. I have living with other people and I like being independant. I am going to ask them if I am accepted if I can have a single person dorm if that is possible. I just dont want to stay in the dorms because of the size and I like having my OWN place.

Now here comes into play, I have to take the ACT and score an 18 or higher. They said you are accepted if you get a 2.6 GPA, and have all the right classes, but I only have 2.5 years of math and science. But if I score an 18 or better in those subjects on the ACT then I will be fine I guess. If not since I have GPA higher than 2.6 I am going to ask them if I can go there but just take those 2 classes at the begginging of the year, and load up. Is this possible can colleges allow you to do that? How hard is the act, whats the best free way to study for it?

Any help would be great, thanks.

[rwclifto 0]

Living in the dorms was a great experience for me. Even if you have a lot of friends going to the same college as you, its always great to meet new people.

[tyler33 0]

Another big question I have what is the difference between a bachelor degree in business economics, and a bachelor degree in business administration? They seem like the same thing to me. I might not even use my degree once I get going in real estate and in investing. But If that doesn't pan out I want a degree to work in banking or real estate.

[NuggyBuggy 0]

What you need to do is study the course calendars and then talk to someone in the department or departments that run the business economics and administration programs. Find out what kind of jobs most of their graduates end up with. It's dangerous to solicit advice - that may shape your career - from people who don't even know what school you're planning to go to. Different schools will call the same things by different names, and different things by the same names, so ask the people who know.

Having said that - and take my advice with a grain of salt since I also don't know about the programs - it sounds like the career you have in mindwill not require a very specific education. I know many brokers and investors who came to that field from all sorts of backgrounds. Many, if not most, economics programs will require a lot of math, mostly calculus, so again you should talk to the program coordinators to find out what the story is. If the economics program features a lot of calculus, and that is not your strong suit you *might* want to think about the administration program, or something else. Even the administration program might require first or second year economics, which might stilll require fair calculus skills, again depending on the program.

[tyler33 0]

I am going to make some calls on monday or tuesday and find everything out for sure. Either way I think with business I am going to have to take hard math courses. The way a couple people have told me is that business economics and business administration is the same thing only with a different title. In the long run you get the same jobs, and its the same outcome with very very similar classes. I hope this is true, but I should be able to figure it out by tuesday for sure. I just signed up for the act and I am going to start studying for math and science.

What I think I might do for my future plan is get a job with the business degree that I get. Either in banking or innsurance. What I want to do is start high up hopefully like as a bank manager or associate or a ceo or something or work up to that anyways. I have a freind whos dad is VP for a big innsurance company where I live and I wouldn't mind doing something along that lines in innsurance. I know that takes years of work to get to that job though, so I would start lower. In the mean time while I am doing that I want to do real estate on the side. Then sometime I want to start building and owning things, and get big into investing. I have been reading a lot of books. Ones from Donald Trump, Kramer, and Robert K. I also have been reading real estate books, and business books. I feel that I can do well in this business once I get started. Like I said beofre I might not even end up using this bachelor degree I get in school if everything goes right, but I want it to have something to start moving my feet or to fall back on if I ever need it. I am going to make some more calls this week and hopefully I will get everything figured out. But in the mean time if you guys have any comments or anything feel free to tell them. Thanks.

[Oberon 0]

If you don't score higher than 18 on your ACT you should only be considering clown college.

[KYHockey3 0]

Now here comes into play, I have to take the ACT and score an 18 or higher. They said you are accepted if you get a 2.6 GPA, and have all the right classes, but I only have 2.5 years of math and science. But if I score an 18 or better in those subjects on the ACT then I will be fine I guess. If not since I have GPA higher than 2.6 I am going to ask them if I can go there but just take those 2 classes at the begginging of the year, and load up. Is this possible can colleges allow you to do that? How hard is the act, whats the best free way to study for it?

Any help would be great, thanks.

technically you shouldnt need to study for the act.

i took it without preparation, and got a 21,24,25.

if you havent learned this stuff by now, chances are that you wont learn it now. on actstudent.org there are some free practice test just to get you familiarized with the test types and procedures.

good luck with it.

definately take the act more then once