All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Have any of you guys been told to play a certain way for a coach that was very jerkish/dickish? You see, we were beating this team like 12-0 in a tournament with no mercy rule. So instead of my coach telling us to stop scoring or something, he decides to humiliate the other team.For example-some of the things we did do in the game.-Switch to lefties if we are righties, and switch to righties if we are lefties-Put one player in each circle on the rink, and the player cant leave the circle. We had to shoot it down the rink to the other guys circle so he could have a little battle of 3-1 inside his circle. -Have three guys stay in the offensive zone the entire time and 2 guys in the defensive zone the whole time. We couldnt pass center. So it could end up being like 4-2 in our defensive zone. -4 of us stood on the red dots and we passed it along the boards to each other. All of this done while game was going on.I just really thought it was a dick move by coach, but I wasnt gona quit the team because I didnt like how he was playin it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Langenbrunner15 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Coaches usually do this without knowing how embaressing it is to the other team. My coach is usually good about it and says we can only take snap shots from the blue line or something like that where it's not as embaressing for the other team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjtt99 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 That's brutal. Stories like that make me cringe. Coaching development still needs a lot of work in so many places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Sounds like your coach is a real class act. I'm not sure how old you are, or what level you play at, but it's a strange situation. The older you get, the better the coaches are (typically). If you are younger, then you're probably too young to stand up to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmiro 55 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 Our coaches always just instituted the two pass roll. Meaning you couldnt shoot until the puck was passed at least two times. My friends and I still institute this rule in beer league when we are winning by more than five, unless the other team is known for running up the scores on others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrett 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 We usually just get to center dump. Not take any chances and work on our defensive game! That sounds like a pretty low down thing to do. I know it would be embarrasing if a team did it to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 We usually just get to center dump. Not take any chances and work on our defensive game! That sounds like a pretty low down thing to do. I know it would be embarrasing if a team did it to me.I was reffing a junior high game and the coach had the kids dumping the puck into the corners. Normally I applaud this move but they were getting to the hash marks on breakaways, then dumping it into the corners. If there is a mercy rule, just put the other team away and get off the ice before someone gets hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 nice coach...yeah right. I always like to take the kids who don't get to score and move them up to get a chance of a goal and get some time with the puck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2007 nice coach...yeah right. I always like to take the kids who don't get to score and move them up to get a chance of a goal and get some time with the puck.Well everybody scored But I was kinda pissed about it all cause alot of my good good friends are on that crappier team that we humiliated and I felt like a dick playing like that againt them.They were tellin me the other day how after that game, their team doesnt want to go to anymore tournaments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bheidepr 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 They were tellin me the other day how after that game, their team doesnt want to go to anymore tournaments.Then both teams lost that game in my opinion..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSHL99 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Obviously not a lot of class there. Maybe it wasn't intentional and your coach was just trying to use the ice time for you guys to work on your skills. Hockey coaches are people too, they screw up from time to time. In my opinion the refs should have just ask the other team to forfeit the game, and let you guys play out the remaining time without keeping score. Though I also think USA Hockey should establish a mercy rule for youth hockey. As the governing body in the States even non-sanctioned events defer to their rules usually. Losing is one thing, everyone has to learn how to deal with it. There's just to no point to letting teams get completely blown out of the water though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickedwrister 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Though I also think USA Hockey should establish a mercy rule for youth hockey. There's just to no point to letting teams get completely blown out of the water though.They will usually switch to a running clock in the third if one team goes up too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bheidepr 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Though I also think USA Hockey should establish a mercy rule for youth hockey. The local organization can define their own mercy rule:From their Ask The Official:There is no “Mercy Rule” in the USA Hockey rule book. This is strictly a local modification to our rules in some locations. The goal differential, penalty length, and resumption of stop time are all issues that are regulated locally. USA Hockey provides no guidelines for a non-rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oggy_3 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 That's brutal. Stories like that make me cringe. Coaching development still needs a lot of work in so many places.I think the coaches need to be at the same level as the players. Alot of players are developing but the coaching jsut isn't there. coaches and players need to be at the same level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykeeper3317 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 in a friendly with in our junior club, me and 2 other goalies from my team turned up and same from the others so coach decided to put out a line of goalies on the penalty kill :| the other coach copied and put two out on the powerplay just a waste of ice time lol.other then that all my coaches do fairly good jobs to be honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarick 5 Report post Posted May 23, 2007 I guess if I were a coach I'd sit my best guys and give more ice time to the scrubs. Let them get some game time and score some goals and prevent frustration injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doctor Hook 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 In the rare occasions my beer league squad is blowing a team out, we switch forwards with D.Back in the HS day when we'd blow teams out, coach would play mostly the third/fourth lines and rest the top guys.The above two strategies are non-dick ways of handling a blowout with class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sensrock15 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 yeah....we were beating a team like 9-0 and there is this goalie that really sucks (no offense) and he never got to play so we switched and put our 4th line players out for all the third....we end up winning 12-7......that is a really good stradegy like doctor hook said....but ive seen stupis moves like pulling there goalie for 5 minutes on end if the game is a blowout.....thats not nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TapOrSnap 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 We try to give guys that have gotten less ice time more time.We've done the "you gotta pass 3 times before you shoot".We were leading 5-0 once after the first and then instituted the "we only shoot for posts" rule..... We failed miserably and ended up leading 10-0 by the end of the second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyplyr814 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2007 I was playing a game two years ago in a tournament against St Johns Vianney, the state champion of Mizzouri. They came all the way to Columbus, Ohio to completly destroy every team they played. Anyways, with one minute remaining in the first period, they were up 9-0, and were about to start a powerplay, so their coach pulls the goalie, so they can score the 10th, mercy rule signaling goal before the end of the period, just because it was a late night game, and he didn't want to wait another 15 minutes for the intermission. Also, later in that tournament, we had a 6:00 am game against a former Ohio state champion, their head coach, assistant coach, starting goalie, and top 2 lines slept in and skiped the game, assuming they would win. With only the trainer on the bench, and 9 or 10 players, they beat us 6-1. That was embarrassingBut anytime we are blowing a team out, as long as they aren't playing dirty, we usualy go to the 2 pass rule. If they are playing dirty, then we kill them. We played this team once, in the very first minute of the game, one of our players was hit from behind and had to be taken off the ice on a stretcher. We ended up winning 22-0. That was fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSHL99 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 Though I also think USA Hockey should establish a mercy rule for youth hockey. The local organization can define their own mercy rule:From their Ask The Official:There is no “Mercy Rule” in the USA Hockey rule book. This is strictly a local modification to our rules in some locations. The goal differential, penalty length, and resumption of stop time are all issues that are regulated locally. USA Hockey provides no guidelines for a non-rule.It would seem logical to realize from my post stating USA Hockey should have a mercy rule for youth hockey that I am well aware that there is currenly no mercy rule. As such what is the point of the reply? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scurvy 3 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 On my high school varsity team, the coach made it clear that it was classy to continue blowing a team out. He said it was classy because you're respecting your opponent enough to continue to play hard against him. Is there any truth to this? Personally, I think blowing out a team that is losing big lacks any form of class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tlminh 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 In my beer league, they actually tossed someone from the league because he kept running up the score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bheidepr 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 The local organization can define their own mercy rule:It would seem logical to realize from my post stating USA Hockey should have a mercy rule for youth hockey that I am well aware that there is currenly no mercy rule. As such what is the point of the reply?My post wasnt to bash you...it was to say that the local organization should define a mercy rule for play, be it league or for a tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Harris 31 Report post Posted May 25, 2007 On my high school varsity team, the coach made it clear that it was classy to continue blowing a team out. He said it was classy because you're respecting your opponent enough to continue to play hard against him.Why? If your team is blowing out the other team, it's obvious you're significantly better. To continue to run up the score is demeaning to the team that is clearly outclassed. On the other hand, it's completely classless to demean a team by pulling some of the dumb stunts that All Torhs coach asked for.Just work on passing and take the shots when they are open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites