My Hunt for a Helmet

[Hockey Player 0]

There isn't any difference. When it was just Bauer, they had the Bauer 1000, the 3000, the 4000, the 5000 and the 8000. When Nike baught Bauer, and made Nike Bauer it became the 1500, the 3500, the 5500 and the 8500.

Tonight I went to drop by my Local Hockey shop and it was closed due to summer hours. I kept going to check at Sportchek to check some lids.

They don't have the 8500, as indicated on their website.

They didn't have the Intake or 6k, as indicated on their website, but had the 4k, and the 4500.

The 4500's padding is stiff, but not too stiff. Fit my head well. It all depends on the EPP models. If they aren't to my liking, I get the 4500.

I wasn't impressed with the 4k.

1st off, fit clip. On most of the boxes, it was either broken or felt like it was going to break.

2nd, it's ugly. Instead of the subshells on the side, above the flimsy fit clip, they made it's a rugged plastic surface. The front is really bulky also.

It really didn't fit me well. Also, I hated the padding. Next to the shell, it's a rock hard layer of hard black VN foam. Did I mention how hard it was? It was really hard. Just having it on your head made it hurt. Nevermind getting hit or smacking your head against the ice. I pressed as hard as I could with my fingers, it didn't even move. Doesen't absorb the shock like EPP, and what I saw of the 4500. Instead, the shell started to bend. RBK did think about comfort though. Next to your head, is maybe half a centimeter (5mm), even less of single density VN foam, the stuff in the Nike Bauer 3500 and my famous CCM HT2. Why even have that? It's really soft in the models I mentionned above when there's an inch and a half. Try 4 millimeters, that's 4 hairs. Barely any. Too soft, and there's not enough to have any impact protection wise. When you have it on your head, you felt nothing but the really really hard black VN foam. To check the price, it was 99 dollars canadian. I know everything at Sportchek is overpriced, but it should have been 50 canadian. I thought it was maybe the only one like that, that was defective, but no, they are all like that. I don't trust it to save my noggin during impact. The 4k is officially off my list.

I prefer my HT2 over that one.

Remaining candidates left are in the EPP section, the RBK 6k, the Nike Bauer 8500 and the Mission Intake. Leaning towards Intake. I wonder if the Fit Clip will be the same on the 6k. As VN candidates, the one and only Nike Bauer 4500.

My 4500's padding seemed to contour and shape to my dome after about a dozen wearings or so. Fits great now and has withstood a headfirst crash into the corner with no damage (to myself or bucket).

There's a reason why the 4500 is one of the most popular helmets in the NHL. Because it's awesome.

Did I not say it fit me well? And yes, it is a sick lid. I'll just stop by my LHS when it is open, check out the 6k, the 8500 and the Intake. If I don't like those, I'll be a proud owner of a Nike Bauer 4500.

[W.Heinle 0]

There isn't any difference. When it was just Bauer, they had the Bauer 1000, the 3000, the 4000, the 5000 and the 8000. When Nike baught Bauer, and made Nike Bauer it became the 1500, the 3500, the 5500 and the 8500.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

[Doctor Hook 0]

What is the difference between the Bauer 4000 and 4500?

They look the same to me

Weren't there issues of cracking that would occur along the dome screws that snap onto the cage straps with 4000s? Hasn't happened on my 4500. Also, there are a few ridgings added on the shell that are not on the 4000. And I believe they re-designed the temple guards to be more frontward towards the face (although I'm not 100% because I never owned a 4000).

[Cheesehead 0]

There isn't any difference. When it was just Bauer, they had the Bauer 1000, the 3000, the 4000, the 5000 and the 8000. When Nike baught Bauer, and made Nike Bauer it became the 1500, the 3500, the 5500 and the 8500.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Actually i'm pretty sure Nike bought Bauer a long time ago before last year. They just decided to combine the two instead of making two separate brands of equipment.

[Chadd 916]

There isn't any difference. When it was just Bauer, they had the Bauer 1000, the 3000, the 4000, the 5000 and the 8000. When Nike baught Bauer, and made Nike Bauer it became the 1500, the 3500, the 5500 and the 8500.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Actually i'm pretty sure Nike bought Bauer a long time ago before last year. They just decided to combine the two instead of making two separate brands of equipment.

That's the kind of bad info you hear at rinks from the self-professed "experts", just ignore it.

[Monty22 835]

The areas around the temple screws and the adjustment screws were leveled to prevent the shell cracking that plauged the 3000 and 4000. Looks like the ridge in the back is cosmetic. The cracking wass my only complaint with the 4000. 4500 is a great helemt.

[Cheesehead 0]

There isn't any difference. When it was just Bauer, they had the Bauer 1000, the 3000, the 4000, the 5000 and the 8000. When Nike baught Bauer, and made Nike Bauer it became the 1500, the 3500, the 5500 and the 8500.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Actually i'm pretty sure Nike bought Bauer a long time ago before last year. They just decided to combine the two instead of making two separate brands of equipment.

That's the kind of bad info you hear at rinks from the self-professed "experts", just ignore it.

Oh. Thanks for correcting me

[Chadd 916]

There isn't any difference. When it was just Bauer, they had the Bauer 1000, the 3000, the 4000, the 5000 and the 8000. When Nike baught Bauer, and made Nike Bauer it became the 1500, the 3500, the 5500 and the 8500.

Thanks, that's what I thought.

Actually i'm pretty sure Nike bought Bauer a long time ago before last year. They just decided to combine the two instead of making two separate brands of equipment.

That's the kind of bad info you hear at rinks from the self-professed "experts", just ignore it.

Oh. Thanks for correcting me

I must have quoted the wrong person, I was referring to the original information. You are correct.

[Cheesehead 0]

oh. Cool im right :D

[swede 52]

I prefer my HT2 over that one.

Remaining candidates left are in the EPP section, the RBK 6k, the Nike Bauer 8500 and the Mission Intake. Leaning towards Intake. I wonder if the Fit Clip will be the same on the 6k. As VN candidates, the one and only Nike Bauer 4500.

If you like the fit of your HT2, i suggest you try on the little more updated CCM HT592, or CCM 892.. Both have similar fit as the HT2, but the 892 has the same shell as the 1092.

[epstud74 24]

Does this helmet fit my son properly? Its my old helmet, but he's just starting out with hockey. Maybe new skates next week.

[TBLfan 25]

the newer *92 series(or the *52 series) isn't as deep fitting as the HT series. And the *92 series is slightly wider than the *52 series, at least mine is.

[DANGLESHOW 0]

I can also vouch for success story with the 4500 it did seem a little bit stiff in the store but after a few skates it will loosen up and sort of "personalize" to your dome and become a little bit softer. After about half a season i can truly say that the 4500 is the best helmet out there in through my experiences.

[ramensandwich 1]

Does this helmet fit my son properly? Its my old helmet, but he's just starting out with hockey. Maybe new skates next week.

cute. he looks more like an intake kinda guy.

[hunterphfr 12]

Nice helmet except for that big swooshy thing on the front. (

(I'm a traditional kinda guy)

[epstud74 24]

I got the helmet maybe 5-6 years ago...Only wore it twice since I never was able to part with my 652.

[Hockey Player 0]

Does this helmet fit my son properly? Its my old helmet, but he's just starting out with hockey. Maybe new skates next week.

Do you see the ressemblence in Chris Pronger and your son?

I don't really think that helmet fits though. ;) ...on both.

EDIT: Wow. Not just the helmet, check out the direction of the eyes, the nose and mouth...wait...are you Chris Pronger? :P lol

[Bmplam 1]

Does this helmet fit my son properly? Its my old helmet, but he's just starting out with hockey. Maybe new skates next week.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fisher-price-skates-My...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Fredrik 0]

Maybe new skates next week.

Well I hope you'll suport your LHS! ;)

If not: You might buy your baby skates here...

Edit:

OOPS! Post 666...

Sorry about that, I'm a nice guy!

Number of the Beast

Main article: Number of the Beast

In the Bible, the Book of Revelation (13:17-18) cryptically asserts 666 to be "the number of a man", associated with the beast, an antagonistic creature that appears briefly about two-thirds into the apocalyptic vision. The author challenges the reader to figure out the symbolism of this number, a challenge that has inspired mystics and would-be prophets ever since. The number of people who have been proposed to be the man whose number is 666 is vast and ever growing; it usually does not demand much ingenuity to find several ways to connect one's political or religious opponent with the number 666, since there is no biblical restriction on how a connection between a man and the number may be established.

In modern popular culture, 666 has become one of the most widely recognized symbols for Satan or the Devil. Earnest references to 666 occur both among apocalypticist Christian groups and in explicitly anti-Christian subcultures such as that surrounding some heavy metal bands; more humorous allusions to the 666 symbolism (e.g., the Lemmings level featuring three 6's built upon "hellish" lava terrain) are mainstream. An appearance of the number 666 in contemporary Western art or literature is more likely than not a conscious reference to this number of the Beast symbolism. Such popular references to 666 are too numerous to list here.

It is not uncommon to see the symbolic role of the integer 666 transferred to the digit sequence 6-6-6. Some people take the satanic associations of 666 so seriously that they actively avoid things related to 666 or the digits 6-6-6. This is known (more or less tongue-in-cheek) as hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Was that last part necessary?

[Hazard14 0]

damn almost 80USD for such small skates?

[DamnLocust 0]

Kids are expensive. Use Birth Control.

and, in case you didn't scroll down, check these out.

[jon93 0]

do you guys think that the Occipital Lock on the 8500 is that important. What are the big benefits from having this.

I have a 8000 right now but i think the 5500is just a better deal compared to the 85.

[Hockey Player 0]

do you guys think that the Occipital Lock on the 8500 is that important. What are the big benefits from having this.

I have a 8000 right now but i think the 5500is just a better deal compared to the 85.

I reduces risk of concussion. It's so when you get hit, your helmet won't move as easily. The 8500 also has many more ways to adjust it, for better fit. On some people there would be pressure points on certain helmets, and apparently the design of the 8500 is to reduce them.

[Hockey Player 0]

I didn't feel like making a new thread, so bumped my old one.

I finnaly got the chance to go to my LHS yesterday afternoon, just to see they were fresh out of Intakes because of the season starting. Good news is they're getting some this week. I'd like to get some more info on the Nike Bauer 5500 and 4500 helmets though. I loved the fit of the 5500, and am leaning towards it. I didn't get much information on it. What worries me, is that Lindros and Colaiacovo got their concussions wearing that bucket.

I've heard great things about the 4500 also.

If the Intake doesen't appeal to me, I'll be buying one of those 2.