Dear rangers fans, soon you will see what caps fans had

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

http://www.enhl.cz/clanek.asp?id=Rangers-u...noho-muze-12985

Jagr: “I am little disappointed the Rangers were not able to keep Nylander on the team. It was really good for me to play with him.

We played together for 2 years with the Rangers and 1 year in Washington. We worked well together and knew what to expect from one another.”

Article is in Czech.

This is the pre-cursor to what we got in Washington.

Jagr wanted his players, caps got nylander and lang.....and so it goes

[mack 44]

I assume this is the article that #96 mentioned and I figure the time was nigh for Jagr to complain about something else. I wonder if he's contracted anyone to build the cross he wants to be put on when he dies yet.

[Vapor 0]

hes got 1 year left...

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

hes got 1 year left...

Which is more than enough time to cripple a team

[warrior37 0]

the only way i can see the rangers keeping it together if jagar destructs is shanny and call me dumbshit, but i think avery too if shanahan keeps him in line

[mack 44]

I wonder how much of this is a ploy to at least get them to keep Shanny, which I assume they want to do anyway, but realistically I don't know how feasible that is. It will be a season of LOLs if they can't keep Shanny though.

[warrior37 0]

imagine Avery in NYC sans Shanny

[Theo 1]

http://galaxie-sport.nova.cz/?191c=%7Ehoke...rury&play=1

Guy...Watch the body language in the video. If anyone is shaken, it is Straka. Naturally Jagr is not thrilled- Nylander worked well with him and made him better. But let me just state some common sense:

Jagr went totally sour in Washington- While he was teammates and playing with friends like Lang and Nylander as well as Gonchar. Meanwhile, he had some of his happiest days of his career with a NA dominated presence early on in Pittsburgh. Winning is what keeps Jagr happy. Winning + good coaching helps as well. That is it. All you have to do is look at his history to see this. Believe me, this is not the start of something. Because this team will win and he will play well and that is what keeps him happy. History shows that having his butt buddies around does not really influence it like the media and naive suggest.

BTW- Shanny is pretty much set to come back. I agree, he keeps a gret presence in the room and helps everyone, especially Avery.

I might as well answer some concerns from other threads before I alienate myself again:

Kaspar will not see NYR NHL ice again. I have no clue how that came up. Staal will certainly be a Ranger next season, IMO.

For the people who say the Rangers will be a "terrible defensive team." Honestly, it's funny. Two seasons ago, the Rangers were #2 best team in the league for lowest GA (or around that). Last season, they were #2 best in the east for lowest GA, despite a brutal start. This with a defense where Malik and Rachunek were the weakest links. Well, we did not qualify Rachunek, which is a plus. Staal will be up- which is a plus. And Malik's days are probably numbered. I think we pick up a very good d-man VIA trade or FA. But even if we just have the Rachunek/Staal swap, it improves them. Now, as individuals it is still not a great sight.

-But under Renney, it is the sum of the parts- or the whole that counts. And the last two years show that defensively- when you combine Henrik, the defense, forwards hard work, system, we are one of the best in the league. You combine two conscientious defensive aware forwards like Gomez and Drury and it should help even more. Not to mention, our first and second line centers had FO % of the low 40's last season. We lost some key draws which led to goals. Well, Drury and Gomez (59 and 53%). Now all Ranger centers are above 50%, and that helps us control the puck.

And in the Broduer thread- The guy is a whining bitch and needs to stop complaining all the time. Ironic Devils fans talking about Rangers whining, jeez.

[Eazy_b97 1]

For the Kaspar situation, I was trying to work out the cap space left on NYR. Latest rumour has Souray and NYR linked, which would mean Shanny's out. Then again, Zubrus has apperantly been signed twice by Toronto and once by NYI today already, and Souray's also been linked to Long Island.

Stupid UFA rumours. Any idea what Lunqvist wants Theo?

[#96 0]

First of all, that Czech broad in the video is pretty f-ing hot. The hottest news chick I got in NYC is Kity F-ing Tong! Why can't they look like that over here.

Second, I'd like Souray here. He'd fit in nicely. But if it means losing Shanny, then no thanks. At least not this year.

I heard when Lundqvist was spoken about at the end of the season, ballpark was 4-5mil per year for an extended contract. But that was heresay. But then again, most of this UFA-FA stuff is until the deals are finally inked.

[jeffw 1]

http://galaxie-sport.nova.cz/?191c=%7Ehoke...rury&play=1

Jagr went totally sour in Washington- While he was teammates and playing with friends like Lang and Nylander as well as Gonchar. Meanwhile, he had some of his happiest days of his career with a NA dominated presence early on in Pittsburgh. Winning is what keeps Jagr happy. Winning + good coaching helps as well. That is it. All you have to do is look at his history to see this. Believe me, this is not the start of something. Because this team will win and he will play well and that is what keeps him happy. History shows that having his butt buddies around does not really influence it like the media and naive suggest.

Don't forget Kip Miller. Jagr asked the Caps to bring him on board because he's always worked well with him. Look how that turned out. :lol:

Can't believe they're upset about losing Nylander when they brought in Gomez and Drury. If they were buddies I can see them being upset about seeing their pal move on, but I'm petty sure the two new guys will be pretty solid contributors.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Don't forget Kip Miller. Jagr asked the Caps to bring him on board because he's always worked well with him. Look how that turned out. :lol:

Can't believe they're upset about losing Nylander when they brought in Gomez and Drury. If they were buddies I can see them being upset about seeing their pal move on, but I'm petty sure the two new guys will be pretty solid contributors.

Difference being, Gomez and Drury are leaders on and off the ice. Nylander, while a very good player, wasn't known for barking at Jagr when he took nights off.

I can see Jagr and Drury having some personality conflicts.

Please forgive my delight in the prospect of Jagr going into hissy fit mode, but as a supporter of the team who is still paying a large chunk of his salary, I feel somewhat entitled

[DarkStar50 679]

I don't see Chris Drury getting in a hissy fit with any player. He never has.

The difference between Jagr's Caps team and Jagr's Rangers team is night and day. Wasn't Jagr relied on to be Mr. Everything for the Caps? In NY, he has a supporting cast that is pretty strong and just got stronger. The pressure to perform is not only on him in NY the way it was in Washington. He is actually coming off a season where he played most of it at less than 80%. His shoulder injury held him back all last season.

I know you are bitter about Jagr but times have changed............

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

I don't see Chris Drury getting in a hissy fit with any player. He never has.

The difference between Jagr's Caps team and Jagr's Rangers team is night and day. Wasn't Jagr relied on to be Mr. Everything for the Caps? In NY, he has a supporting cast that is pretty strong and just got stronger. The pressure to perform is not only on him in NY the way it was in Washington. He is actually coming off a season where he played most of it at less than 80%. His shoulder injury held him back all last season.

I know you are bitter about Jagr but times have changed............

When Jagr came to DC, he wasn't relied on to be Mr. Everything.

They had Olie in goal, Klee, Johannson, Witt, Gonchar on D, Oates and kolishon centering, with Bondra, Simon, Halpern, Dahlen, Konowalchuk, Zubrus etc etc all playing forward.

This is not the 03/04 team that he crippled with his whinery and half heartedness. This was a team built to complement him, and he still managed to ruin everything.

[Project824 0]

Staal will certainly be a Ranger next season, IMO.

Staal will be up- which is a plus. And Malik's days are probably numbered. I think we pick up a very good d-man VIA trade or FA. But even if we just have the Rachunek/Staal swap, it improves them.

I think to say a 20 year old draft pick who has only played in the OHL up to this point will be an immediate improvement over a 7 year NHL veteran is unrealistic - especially a defenseman. I think Staal will be a very solid NHL defenseman in a few years, but I'd be very surprised if he doesn't spend at least 20-30 games in the AHL next year. Maybe Rachunek needs to be moved, but Staal is not the immediate answer.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

[hockeysc23 0]

Welcome to the caps of old ranger fans. He already started with shoulder injury excuses. He is great when he wants to play but he is already starting to make excuses. I cannot wait, thanks for Nylander back.

[DamnLocust 0]

Starting to make excuses? his shoulder was messed up in the playoffs against the devils in '06, and he was unable to properly train all summer and into training camp. He never got back into "full" game shape last year, and you don't have a chance to do so during the season as you're playing 3-4 nights a week. Notice how he pulled himself out of the all star game to work on conditioning.

And yet, he was still a dominant force- a threat each and every shift.

Jagr enjoys playing in New York. he WANTS to play in New York. that's the difference between Jagr in NY and Jagr in DC.

[Langenbrunner15 0]

The money is also a major difference too.

[warrior37 0]

I don't see Chris Drury getting in a hissy fit with any player. He never has.

The difference between Jagr's Caps team and Jagr's Rangers team is night and day. Wasn't Jagr relied on to be Mr. Everything for the Caps? In NY, he has a supporting cast that is pretty strong and just got stronger. The pressure to perform is not only on him in NY the way it was in Washington. He is actually coming off a season where he played most of it at less than 80%. His shoulder injury held him back all last season.

I know you are bitter about Jagr but times have changed............

When Jagr came to DC, he wasn't relied on to be Mr. Everything.

They had Olie in goal, Klee, Johannson, Witt, Gonchar on D, Oates and kolishon centering, with Bondra, Simon, Halpern, Dahlen, Konowalchuk, Zubrus etc etc all playing forward.

This is not the 03/04 team that he crippled with his whinery and half heartedness. This was a team built to complement him, and he still managed to ruin everything.

Ken Klee? I dont even know what Johannson youre talking about, Witt as a premier D Man? I wouldnt say Simon, Halpern, or Dahlen are anything to brag about either. If anything what you posted pretty much shows how much of a Mr Everything Jagr was expected to be.

[DamnLocust 0]

The money is also a major difference too.

the money is the same- jags is still playing on the contract he signed with WSH.

[Langenbrunner15 0]

I thought that contract was over a year or two ago and they re-signed him?

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

I don't see Chris Drury getting in a hissy fit with any player. He never has.

The difference between Jagr's Caps team and Jagr's Rangers team is night and day. Wasn't Jagr relied on to be Mr. Everything for the Caps? In NY, he has a supporting cast that is pretty strong and just got stronger. The pressure to perform is not only on him in NY the way it was in Washington. He is actually coming off a season where he played most of it at less than 80%. His shoulder injury held him back all last season.

I know you are bitter about Jagr but times have changed............

When Jagr came to DC, he wasn't relied on to be Mr. Everything.

They had Olie in goal, Klee, Johannson, Witt, Gonchar on D, Oates and kolishon centering, with Bondra, Simon, Halpern, Dahlen, Konowalchuk, Zubrus etc etc all playing forward.

This is not the 03/04 team that he crippled with his whinery and half heartedness. This was a team built to complement him, and he still managed to ruin everything.

Ken Klee? I dont even know what Johannson youre talking about, Witt as a premier D Man? I wouldnt say Simon, Halpern, or Dahlen are anything to brag about either. If anything what you posted pretty much shows how much of a Mr Everything Jagr was expected to be.

How can you forget Calle Johansson?

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

I don't see Chris Drury getting in a hissy fit with any player. He never has.

The difference between Jagr's Caps team and Jagr's Rangers team is night and day. Wasn't Jagr relied on to be Mr. Everything for the Caps? In NY, he has a supporting cast that is pretty strong and just got stronger. The pressure to perform is not only on him in NY the way it was in Washington. He is actually coming off a season where he played most of it at less than 80%. His shoulder injury held him back all last season.

I know you are bitter about Jagr but times have changed............

When Jagr came to DC, he wasn't relied on to be Mr. Everything.

They had Olie in goal, Klee, Johannson, Witt, Gonchar on D, Oates and kolishon centering, with Bondra, Simon, Halpern, Dahlen, Konowalchuk, Zubrus etc etc all playing forward.

This is not the 03/04 team that he crippled with his whinery and half heartedness. This was a team built to complement him, and he still managed to ruin everything.

Ken Klee? I dont even know what Johannson youre talking about, Witt as a premier D Man? I wouldnt say Simon, Halpern, or Dahlen are anything to brag about either. If anything what you posted pretty much shows how much of a Mr Everything Jagr was expected to be.

Dahlen-Kono-Halpern were a great shut down unit.

Klee-Gonchar were a solid d-unit, as were witt-johannson

Bondra was 2nd in goals scored in 10 years, only to jagr, for scoring support

Kolzig is a vezina winning goalie.

The caps had a solid team, Jagr was meant to be the missing piece, not Mr. Everything

[#96 0]

I don't see Chris Drury getting in a hissy fit with any player. He never has.

The difference between Jagr's Caps team and Jagr's Rangers team is night and day. Wasn't Jagr relied on to be Mr. Everything for the Caps? In NY, he has a supporting cast that is pretty strong and just got stronger. The pressure to perform is not only on him in NY the way it was in Washington. He is actually coming off a season where he played most of it at less than 80%. His shoulder injury held him back all last season.

I know you are bitter about Jagr but times have changed............

When Jagr came to DC, he wasn't relied on to be Mr. Everything.

They had Olie in goal, Klee, Johannson, Witt, Gonchar on D, Oates and kolishon centering, with Bondra, Simon, Halpern, Dahlen, Konowalchuk, Zubrus etc etc all playing forward.

This is not the 03/04 team that he crippled with his whinery and half heartedness. This was a team built to complement him, and he still managed to ruin everything.

Ken Klee? I dont even know what Johannson youre talking about, Witt as a premier D Man? I wouldnt say Simon, Halpern, or Dahlen are anything to brag about either. If anything what you posted pretty much shows how much of a Mr Everything Jagr was expected to be.

Dahlen-Kono-Halpern were a great shut down unit.

Klee-Gonchar were a solid d-unit, as were witt-johannson

Bondra was 2nd in goals scored in 10 years, only to jagr, for scoring support

Kolzig is a vezina winning goalie.

The caps had a solid team, Jagr was meant to be the missing piece, not Mr. Everything

Well said. But Jagr doesn't have it in him to be Mr. Everything for anybody. He's always just gonna be a missing piece. Call it a fault, call it what you want, the guy just marches to the beat of his own drum. Like Kovalev in a way I guess.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Well said. But Jagr doesn't have it in him to be Mr. Everything for anybody. He's always just gonna be a missing piece. Call it a fault, call it what you want, the guy just marches to the beat of his own drum. Like Kovalev in a way I guess.

Thats my point exactly, when Jagrs drum and the Rangers drum is in sync, like it has been, they are a great combo, but when his drum starts going off beat, it can throw the rhythm off for the entire band, so to speak