Stop the playmaker, stop the goal scorer

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

This is an interesting blog piece, it's basically a statistical analysis of which snipers relied more heavily on one set up man over the other.

There are 2 charts, the first one is the top 30 scorers who relied on one set up man the most.

The second is the top 30 scorers who didn't rely on a set up man specifically, and could make their own shots/goals regardless of who was on the ice.

Again, stats are fun to look at, particularly in the dog days of summer, but they don't provide the picture of what happens on the acutal ice fully.

http://forechecker.blogspot.com/2007/08/wh...ores-alone.html

[Chadd 916]

I'd like to see a list of the top unassisted goal scorers.

[mack 44]

Gordie Bombay.

[Super Star 0]

you meant the guy from Mighty Ducks (the movie)?

[Gongshow11 1]

y would basil mcrae offer a guy a tryout in the A after he tore up pee wees 15 years ago

[LoXish 0]

Nice to see some Blue blood on there.

Stempniak has some nice flare, we'll be seeing more from him this coming season... potting 27 goals with a 18% reliance on Guerin is pretty great, imagine him playing on the powerplay with Paul Kariya... I think Stempniak could break 40 this season is he tries.

[The_Forechecker 0]

I'd like to see a list of the top unassisted goal scorers.

Done! Enjoy...

[Patrick67 1]

To be #1 it only takes 5 unassisted goals on the season? Whoa I'm stunned.

[chippa13 1844]

To be #1 it only takes 5 unassisted goals on the season? Whoa I'm stunned.

Why? It isn't too often that a guy scores a goal completely on his own without getting a puck from a teammate at some point on the ice. Remember, some assists could be just a chip of the puck to a guy who then goes around all 5 guys and undresses the goalie. The guy that scored created his own goal but the guy who chipped it to him still gets an assist.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

To be #1 it only takes 5 unassisted goals on the season? Whoa I'm stunned.

Why? It isn't too often that a guy scores a goal completely on his own without getting a puck from a teammate at some point on the ice. Remember, some assists could be just a chip of the puck to a guy who then goes around all 5 guys and undresses the goalie. The guy that scored created his own goal but the guy who chipped it to him still gets an assist.

Or if it bounces off the guy's foot right onto the stick of his teammate in the slot.

[jjtt99 0]

It's funny seeing the Sedin twins at the top. As a Vancouverite the media is always trying to put a "twin powers" spin on their best playes. The Sedins respond it doesn't have anything to do with them being twins, but it has everything to do with playing together their whole lives.

"Q: You guys have played together since you were 8 years old. What's been the best part of that?

Daniel: Just knowing what the other guy is going to do. Everyone thinks we know each other because we're twins, but it has more to do with playing together for so long."

Rest of the Sedin interview:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/stor...&id=2679145

[Law Goalie 147]

The NHL hands out assists like a drunken sailor throwing around beers on payday. I think about half of Nylander's assists were for giving Jagr gooey eyes.

[daca 0]

It's funny seeing the Sedin twins at the top. As a Vancouverite the media is always trying to put a "twin powers" spin on their best playes. The Sedins respond it doesn't have anything to do with them being twins, but it has everything to do with playing together their whole lives.

"Q: You guys have played together since you were 8 years old. What's been the best part of that?

Daniel: Just knowing what the other guy is going to do. Everyone thinks we know each other because we're twins, but it has more to do with playing together for so long."

Rest of the Sedin interview:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/stor...&id=2679145

funny interview, thanks for linking it.

[Chadd 916]

The NHL hands out assists like a drunken sailor throwing around beers on payday. I think about half of Nylander's assists were for giving Jagr gooey eyes.

I've seen certain players get assists while on the bench or in the locker room. Pittsburgh was, by far, the worst for a long time.

[chippa13 1844]

The NHL hands out assists like a drunken sailor throwing around beers on payday. I think about half of Nylander's assists were for giving Jagr gooey eyes.

I've seen certain players get assists while on the bench or in the locker room. Pittsburgh was, by far, the worst for a long time.

How could a team have been the worst at phantom assists when it is the referee who hands them out? Besides, assist giving isn't referred to as the Gretzky rule for nothing.

[Chadd 916]

The NHL hands out assists like a drunken sailor throwing around beers on payday. I think about half of Nylander's assists were for giving Jagr gooey eyes.

I've seen certain players get assists while on the bench or in the locker room. Pittsburgh was, by far, the worst for a long time.

How could a team have been the worst at phantom assists when it is the referee who hands them out? Besides, assist giving isn't referred to as the Gretzky rule for nothing.

It's not the refs who make the final decision, goals are changed after viewing replays all the time. I also never said it was the team, most likely the official stat guys trying to help out "their" guy. Sid got a couple just for being on the ice already too. It happens in other places as well, but I've never seen it more blatant than in Pittsburgh. I've seen Mario and Jagr get assists while sitting on the bench or on plays where the guy who scored picked off a pass and scored on a breakaway. The worst was when one time Mario was in the locker room with an equipment issue when a goal was scored. During the intermission they announced there was a change in the scoring and I told my wife and in-laws Mario was going to get the assist despite being in the locker room. Sure enough, he was given an assist and the fans cheered. A perfect example of Orwellian doublethink if ever there was one.