willc7786 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Just wondering your guys opinion of this one;I was playing in a game a couple nights ago, when while back checking, a guy on my team yelled "drop it" to the guy on the other team who was skating the puck past our blueline. The guy did, and flipped out when my team mate picked the puck up and skated the other way. The guy chased him down and two handed him on the ankle.To compare, is this like when A-Rod yelled (depending on who you ask, either "Ha!" or "I got it") in Toronto this year, and breaking an unwritten rule?I think that in this sport its entirely different, and if you don't peak behind you then you're an idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3799 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 There was a huge thread on this...I think it was the A-Rod thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarick 5 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Last year Andrew Brunette (former Wild player) chopped his stick on the ice and yelled "Walzy!" and got Wes Walz (current Wild player) to drop the puck back to him for a shot and goal. Walz laughed about it afterwards and said he should have recognized what was going on.I won't do it unless a team is skating circles around us. I'll tap to one side of a player when going into the corner to try and get him to turn to the other side, I'll play "rope a dope" on draws, I'll try and offer up some easy dangles, and whatever mind games I can play after that depends on how high up the score is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 That was his fault for dropping it to someone that wasn't a teammate. I don't call for a drop or a pass from other teams. For the most part I recognize voices and more importantly I try to know where my teammates are on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 That was a dumb move on the guy with the puck. Your guy has every right to do that, if hes trying to get the puck.Remember -- hockey is not only a physical game, but a mental game too.I hope that guy got his ass kicked for two handing somebody smarter then him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oggy_3 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I do it all the time in games, Drop-it, when the forward on the other team is going up the boards i yell cycle and of course they do, if im playing forward and the D has it and im in the middle i yell D-D i love it my self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkptTiger 1 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I'm always yelling stuff to try to confuse the other team. They don't necessarily have to cough the puck up right away for it to be effective...sometimes if a guy is under pressure and he hears a call like "Late! Late! Late!" or "Wall! Wall! Wall!" he'll try to take the extra fraction of a second to take a look and identify who it is that's calling. When he sees it's me and that whatever play I was calling for isn't there, he might panic because he now has 1) less time than he already did and 2) one less option....and when someone panics, there is a pretty good chance he's going to try to force a play do something really stupid, depending on which zone he's in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarick 5 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Or when a guy's carrying the puck down the side into the corner, yelling "POINT!" and hanging back a few feet :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 "There are 2 places you should NEVER attempt a drop pass...at Home & away"- Toe Blake.Remember that kids! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark#81 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 My opinion tapping or calling for a pass from an opposing player is unsportsmanlike and not the way the game should be played. It is misrepresentation, a fraud of sorts. I never saw this when I played in TO, but have seen it out west here every few games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evor1 6 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 i never knew people looked down upon this sort of thing. i never do it since im not that vocal on the ice but if it happened to me i would just think "fuck i screwed up". wouldnt blame the other guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I yell "offsides!" from the bench and watch as the other team tags up, but I think that technically might warrant a penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abubaca 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 It's absolutely totally and completely legal, let me state that that issue is by no means under debate.That being said, it's bush league. Taunting and making fun of someone's mom while in the corner is legal too, but again, it's crap. My High School coach used to bench us for unsportsmanlike plays, and that was one of his biggest gripes. You don't have to shake hands after the game either, you could go straight to the locker room, but....you don't. It has nothing to do with being smarter, it's about sportsmanship....but like I said, we all agree that it's legal. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 My opinion tapping or calling for a pass from an opposing player is unsportsmanlike and not the way the game should be played. Why? The way I view it is, if you can trick the other team into making stupid decisions, its good for you. When the person makes that bad drop pass, they say to themselves "why did i fall for that, i wont let it happen again next time".Just like when they get beaten on a one on one. They say "I wont let that happen next time".Its something you learn to master, just like any other play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hapamatt122 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 one of my favs as being the fwd giving chase on the forecheck as the D is going for the puck and taking it around his end is yelling "you got time" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oggy_3 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I never thought of that one Happamatt, i might have to try that sometime and sometimes if the ref doesn't see the player cross the blue line and some one yells offside they;ll blow it down,Remember hockey is 90%mental and 10 Physical, I do not see a single prolbem with playing with other players heads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psh 25 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I think the first time I saw someone call for a drop pass from an opponent was when I was about 9 years old and I've seen it in games consistently ever since. I'm surprised some think it is unsporting or bush-league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dalston 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I can't see anything wrong with it, it was the player who made a drop pass there made a mistake.Everything goes so fast in hockey, and if you dont have the mind its hard.I dont do it myself usually, but i hit my stick down in the ice for a pass on the other team.And i know the voices of my teamates, and try to keep up with where they are on ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topshelf11 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I fell for that once. Once.I try it once in a while, usually when I am trying to catch a guy on a breakaway. Never works, but I keep hoping it will someday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrusse01 0 Report post Posted October 26, 2007 I don't think I've ever fallen for it, but I attempt it pretty frequently and it works for me fairly often. I also like to tap a player on one side with my stick going into the corner so he'll turn in the opposite direction, or an especially sneaky trick is yelliing '5 SECONDS!' when an opposing guy is rushing down the ice and really has 10 or 12 seconds left in the period. I've seen that done a couple times with pretty hilarious consequences..i.e. shooting from the blue line on a breakaway. I find the best time to use it is as a winger when you are backing checking a rush into your own zone...on a 2 on 2 or something the puck carrier can run out of options pretty fast and will often drop it back to you thinking it is his other forward, you can then wheel around out of the zone. It's much harder when play is already established in the zone because players have a chance to see where everybody is, and it is difficult to trick someone as positions are fairly well defined. I can see why some people think of it as a bush league move, but I think if you are dumb enough to be fooled by it you should be more concerned with keeping your head up and knowing where your teammates are as opposed to getting mad at somebody who tricked you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abubaca 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2007 I can see why some people think of it as a bush league move, but I think if you are dumb enough to be fooled by it you should be more concerned with keeping your head up and knowing where your teammates are as opposed to getting mad at somebody who tricked you.I think it's bush league for someone to try it. -Whether or not the other player falls for it is irrelevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamboni 6 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 I hate guys who do it at drop in shinny, everyone has different jerseys....teams switched around over a few mini games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taigyr 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2007 John Madden did it to Mario Lemieux...Mario nickname was "Ace". Madden called his nickname and Lemieux drop the puck to him unwittingly. When 66 found out he slashed Madden. Players do have their pride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyman9621 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 If the guy is dumb enough to actually drop it to you then it's his own fault for not being aware. Saying that is unsportsmanlike is like saying not warning a guy your coming before you hit him is unsportsmanlike. You have to have awareness in hockey, no matter the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5minutesforfighting 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2007 From the bench, I usually like to play with players heads. Saying, hey man your chin straps un-done, or hey your skates untied... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites