Synergy Skates

[Speed Demon 0]

I don't like stuff from China because they don't have any copy right laws. I bought a pair of Nike Shox TLs off ebay from China and when they got here, they were fake. I sent them back but I lost money overall.

[NashvillePreds 1]

I don't like stuff from China because they don't have any copy right laws. I bought a pair of Nike Shox TLs off ebay from China and when they got here, they were fake. I sent them back but I lost money overall.

Off Ebay from China?!? That was your first mistake...

[Speed Demon 0]

lol, yes off ebay.

[Edge 0]

It's true that composite cannot be stitched, but they could have possibly found another way besides glue, especially since the layers are already coming off of the skate.

And it says made in China on the skate for those who are interested.

[black296tuuk 3]

Who cares where it is made...Canada, Mexico, USA, or Asia????

Would you rather have a quality product that worked great and never fell apart and was cheaper and happened to be made in some place other than the US or Canada?

Or would rather have a okay product that cost more and didn't have the quality, but was made in the US or Canada....

Personally I'll take the first one....

I care where it is made a so should you. I did not comment to start a discussion on free trade or open markets. My point was that Jr saying that the skate was made in Canada is incorrect. But having two sides to every coin your theory about creating new jobs has some flaws. In real life when a company like Mission makes a skate overseas or in Mexico there is a man or woman that looses a good paying union job in the USA. And this is not the type of person that can get a marketing job so they go get a job at Wal-Mart for $6.75. So in effect you widen the gap between the lower class and the upper class. Mission’s profits will go up but the workers wages go down. Do you really think that Mission is going to pass the savings on the retailers?

And you if you are trying to tell me that the quality control in China or Mexico is the same as in the USA or Canada you are crazy. How did that work out for Mission on the first run of M1's (er....I mean repainted flyweights) that all had to be sent back.

Look at the difference in quality between a Vapor XX Skate and an Old Bauer 5000 Skate. And don't try to feed me that crap about it being a performance product that is not supposed to last as long.

But getting back to the point of this thread. I have had the Synergy skate on and it is very comfortable, but we will see how long this revolutionary product that is made in Mexico lasts. How long did your last graphite stick/blade last? The warranty is only 90 days on the skate.

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

I assumed they were because their top-end skates are Canadian-made. I have not seen a SyNergy skate.

[blues_91 0]

The guy at my lhs said that the only stuff made by easton in Canada were the pro stuff. I don't know if I am correct, but he said all the retail was made in China. I would rather buy Canadian made equipment because of the lack of quality control in China. I had some 03 easton z-air gloves that were made in China and they lasted 8 months!

[Justin 1933 134]

Lack of quality control in China..lolol....You guys are must have never spent time in a Factory in Canada, USA, Mexico, or China....In China they have about 300x the amount of quality inspections verse those in the US...Their labor force is larger and cheaper, so more people can be involved in the QC process...

Don't get me started on Unions...Those should have disappeared a long time ago...

These opinions are just mine and do not represent those of Mission Hockey...

Justin

[Tom351 0]

Don't get me started on Unions...Those should have disappeared a long time ago...

I agree with that. Many of the jobs would never leave if it were not for unions. Also, unions are a major speedbump for quality control. If you can't do your job and do crappy work you will get fired, that is unless you have a union to protect you.

[Justin 1933 134]

can anyone say NHLPA?

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

:gasp!:

[Edge 0]

It says made in china on the skate guys, not mexico.

[wristshot19 0]

Lack of quality control in China..lolol....You guys are must have never spent time in a Factory in Canada, USA, Mexico, or China....In China they have about 300x the amount of quality inspections verse those in the US...Their labor force is larger and cheaper, so more people can be involved in the QC process...

Don't get me started on Unions...Those should have disappeared a long time ago...

These opinions are just mine and do not represent those of Mission Hockey...

Justin

I think a lot of the backlash against products made in other countries besides Canadaor the US comes from som eof the older products that used to get made in those "other" countries. I used to only buy gloves made in Canada when their leather and stitching quality were both considerably better than cloves made in Taiwan, China, Mexico and the like. Now that manufacturing techniques and meterial qualities have improved, I no longer worry about where the product was made or assembled as much. I had Vapors XXs and Classic Golds that were "assembled" in Canada but neither pair of skates I could stand. The skates I have stayed with are the Nike skates which clearly state that they were manufactured in China (but designed in Canada).

I too agree that a lot of unions (not all) have outlived their usefulness. They are definitely one reason why our country is viewed as being lazy and arrogant. When somebody can just piss away time at work under the protection of a union then that is an example of the union working just for that person and not the union working for the USA as a whole. I am not saying that there aren't any good union workers, but I am saying that there are too many individuals that abuse the security that a union gives them. I could go on but I don't want to get too lengthy here (too late).

Oh, and the Easton skates sound great in theory but I will wait for production issues to be worked out. Plus, I want to see if glued on logos start littering the ice everywhere. Skates take quite a beating and I can see these things breaking down to their composite shell rather quickly. If Easton proves me wrong then I will be the first one to stand up and admit it.

[Lightning 0]

As I am someone that could lose his job (network analyst) to the Far East, I do not know where to be on this issue. As I believe business is business and they will always try to find a way to cut costs and increase revenue. I believe that the job market moves in trends and there will be new jobs opening for the ones that have lost theirs. I know that I will be able to find something new to do (thats if I dont find something before they make their moves which should be in about 1 to 2 years). As it was mentioned before, those without a college degree will find it hard to replace their income, than it would be for others that do have a degree as there are multi types of jobs that I can apply for just because of my business degree.

But to get back to the thread, I dont care where a product is made as long as I like the product and it performs....

[djinferno 2]

Saw the skates today at my local hockey store and they are very impresive, the skae should be a great one but i don't really think they look skatable unless you don't tie em up to the top... also i thik that guys will have an issue with the toe cap area...

[Cavs019 708]

tried on the demo pair today, wasn't all that impressed, and i wont be surprised when people bring them back because the heel is completely cracked from taking a shot.

[djinferno 2]

tried on the demo pair today, wasn't all that impressed, and i wont be surprised when people bring them back because the heel is completely cracked from taking a shot.

i think youre right, like anything else that does not give... hope it does not crack... multipiece products have the advantage of GIVING under preasure, like the sticks, no give equals cracks..

[black296tuuk 3]

I tried the Synergy skate on today along with the Nike V12 (mainly because I think it is the most comfortable skate at the moment). I put the Synergy on my left foot and the V12 on my right. I kept them on for about 3 hours and was pleased with the feel. The one thing that I noticed right away was that you can really feel the lift on the Lightspeed holder. The Synergy skate was notably lower to the ground and it made it feel more stable. The only other thing that was remotely uncomfortable was the tongue. The tongue is a little to thin for my liking. If you are considering purchasing this skate, keep it on your foot for at least 20 minutes because I did notice that the skate starts to loosen up on you foot after a while. I am still keeping a "I will believe it when I see it" attitude with this skate just because the materials are so new to the hockey industry. It makes me very uncomfortable that I could basically peel the stitching up with my finger nail if I wanted to, but I guess we will see in October.

BTW I think that it is great that a company was finally smart enough to release a hot new product when the season is starting and not when it is ending.

[Hero 0]

whats the weight for the new Z-Air Comp skates?

[Edge 0]

i dont think they are any different than the older ones, not positive.

I found out that Easton send out my pair to test on the ice today, should have them within the week, i'll get back to you guys.

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

SyNergy or Z-AIr?

[black296tuuk 3]

Easton Claims 760 Grams on a size 8 Synergy, with a 150 Gram shell weight. But anyone that has ever actually weighed a one piece stick knows that they all lie. My guess is probably in the 780 range.

[Edge 0]

dont know, you are right that the companies lie about weights, but i'm sure Bauer does just as much as Easton. ..And JR, Synergy.

[CaptainZbubble 0]

How did you get hooked up with a test pair?

CaptainZbubble

[QandA 0]

Eric Stahl's lil' brother at the U-18 Canada camp was wearing pair of Synergy Skates, saw it on sportsnet. You can really make out these skates from anywhere!