Rangers not wearing RBK Edge jerseys

[joeskow 0]

according to a source and also it apears the Rangers are not fallowing suite and wearing the RBK Edge jerseys like the rest of the NHL... uh oh rbk

[VakarLajos 5]

I believe the Rangers are one of a few teams that have switched to the old material. The cut is similar to the Edge design (maybe even identical), but the fabric is different.

The Rangers were also the first to get rid of the "tails" in the back.

Washington is also going with the older fabric. Which is odd, because I had a chance to talk with their equipment manager when he was in NY and I asked him about the new jerseys. His comment was, "We're not complainers.". Not that I'm saying the Caps are, it's just caught me off guard that they were one of the ones switching to it after hearing that from him. It could have been that they didn't want to bad-mouth the new style to random people. I don't know.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

NYR ripped the seam out of the original EDGE's back hem. No cutwork was done.

All teams now have a choice between the EDGE PlayDry material or airknit in front/stretchy in back.

[AvsFan#4 0]

if a team decides to go with the old style jersey do all the players have to wear them or can some players choice to wear the edge jersey cause it seems to me that greg moore of the rangers still wears the edge jersey will the rest of his team does not

also

All teams now have a choice between the EDGE PlayDry material or airknit in front/stretchy in back.

so your saying that the rangers are wearing like a mix between the old jersey and the edge jersey

[mickz 107]

if a team decides to go with the old style jersey do all the players have to wear them or can some players choice to wear the edge jersey cause it seems to me that greg moore of the rangers still wears the edge jersey will the rest of his team does not

also

All teams now have a choice between the EDGE PlayDry material or airknit in front/stretchy in back.

so your saying that the rangers are wearing like a mix between the old jersey and the edge jersey

You're thinking of Dominic Moore, not Greg. Greg was the Canadian who tragically lost his life in a racing accident.

[jbyun04 7]

if a team decides to go with the old style jersey do all the players have to wear them or can some players choice to wear the edge jersey cause it seems to me that greg moore of the rangers still wears the edge jersey will the rest of his team does not

also

All teams now have a choice between the EDGE PlayDry material or airknit in front/stretchy in back.

so your saying that the rangers are wearing like a mix between the old jersey and the edge jersey

You're thinking of Dominic Moore, not Greg. Greg was the Canadian who tragically lost his life in a racing accident.

No he's not. Dominic Moore plays on the Minnesota Wild. GREG Moore plays for the New York Rangers.

[li7039 0]

Greg Morre is a younger player. He was just called up from the wolfpack and wears #49

also Avery was one of the first players on the team to switch over to the " old " jersey. Now almost everyone is using them

[jww83 0]

I havent been able to see a game in a while so havent been able to see for myself, but has the angle and spacing of "Rangers" on the jersey been changed back to how it used to be. I can live with the more straight writing, doesn't bother me, but i still liked it better how it was.

[mickz 107]

if a team decides to go with the old style jersey do all the players have to wear them or can some players choice to wear the edge jersey cause it seems to me that greg moore of the rangers still wears the edge jersey will the rest of his team does not

also

All teams now have a choice between the EDGE PlayDry material or airknit in front/stretchy in back.

so your saying that the rangers are wearing like a mix between the old jersey and the edge jersey

You're thinking of Dominic Moore, not Greg. Greg was the Canadian who tragically lost his life in a racing accident.

No he's not. Dominic Moore plays on the Minnesota Wild. GREG Moore plays for the New York Rangers.

My bad, I thought Dominic was still on the Rangers. Excuse my ignorance.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Every team in the NHL has gone back to the old material. This is per Tarik El-Bashir, who covers the caps for the Washington Post, who confirmed it through RBK

So, the edge jerseys that are so great are only a tighter old jersey now.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

I havent been able to see a game in a while so havent been able to see for myself, but has the angle and spacing of "Rangers" on the jersey been changed back to how it used to be. I can live with the more straight writing, doesn't bother me, but i still liked it better how it was.

Nope, still the same. Seam gets in the way.

Look at the pic if you have any questions about the hem. You should be able to see a line on the back that arches. That is the part that folds in and is sewn up to form the hem. They just seamripped it and let it hang loose.

[hunterphfr 12]

Possibly alot of pro stock jerseys for sale on Ebay come spring. <_<

[sds 0]

Every team in the NHL has gone back to the old material. This is per Tarik El-Bashir, who covers the caps for the Washington Post, who confirmed it through RBK

So, the edge jerseys that are so great are only a tighter old jersey now.

linky?

[34Strudwick 0]

Here you go: gameworn.net

Hi everybody,

While all of us at MeiGray welcome and appreciate the vigorous discussion, constructive criticisms, compliments, and passionate opinions regarding the new RBK Edge jerseys and the ramifications of their effect on our Game-Worn Hobby, I felt it important to reach out to the most informed people at Reebok/The Hockey Company and the NHL to provide some facts and information for all of you.

We respect all opinions, and we respect constructive conversation. But there have been too many inaccurate facts, rumors, assumptions made by uninformed or partially informed sources: On Forum chat rooms like this one, in the media, and out of the locker rooms.

I’m going to steer clear of opinions. Here at MeiGray, it is important to us and we feel it is our responsibility to you collectors to present the accurate facts as they exist today with regard to the 14 NHL teams working with the MeiGray Game-Worn Jersey Authentication Program.

This post will remain in the General Section, and I’ll be happy to respond to questions. In the NHL-MGG Section over the next few days and weeks, I will make specific posts for our 14 specific program teams, as information on those teams becomes available.

I feel this is the best way because a lot of you have a lot of questions on your particular team, and the information with each team might be slightly different … especially when it comes down to Set Dates, and what teams have done so far.

Now for the issues:

RBK 1.0 vs. RBK 2.0:

When the new RBK Edge jerseys were delivered to the teams (let’s call it the RBK Edge 1.0), and the teams began using them, it was learned that the chemical treatment administered to the new wick away fabric inadvertently prevented sweat from escaping. Instead of keeping the players cooler and lighter, sweat actually built up in the players’ equipment and left the jerseys wetter. It was a flaw that RBK immediately attempted to correct by chemically treating the jersey differently.

Sometime in October, RBK responded to the feedback from the teams and made changes to the jersey: An RBK Edge actually has a variety of different fabrics in it. RBK left the stretch mesh under the arms and back, but replaced the front panel, shoulders and sleeves with an Airknit material.

Over the last few weeks, we have been tagging and sending to the teams small supplies of RBK Edge 2.0 jerseys.

Besides the new front fabric, these 2.0 jerseys also have responded to team suggestions by making minor customizing adjustments to the size and cut around the arms and shoulders of the garments. RBK and the NHL think the 2.0 will alleviate many of the problems NHL teams were facing with the new jerseys.

You probably saw a published report (one of the few entirely accurate reports in the media) that Ottawa was the first program team to introduce its RBK Edge 2.0 set. Teams will be introducing their RBK Edge 2.0 sets as they are delivered by RBK.

How many jerseys?

Because of sizing and durability issues (mainly for fighters, and players who sweat a lot) in the RBK 1.0 sets, some players have had more than one jersey in Set 1. Which players, and how many per team, will become evident when we get the Set 1 final reports.

And because teams can switch to RBK 2.0, we actually believe that there will be FEWER jerseys this season than in seasons past. We say that because RBK is manufacturing as quickly as possible, but has delivered enough jerseys only for teams to produce a Set 2 and Set 3 … and depending upon call-ups, special situations, etc, those jerseys are going to be in very, very short supply for the near future.

As the season continues, we will be able to provide more accurate information. But as of right now, the 14 program teams’ jersey sets look as follows:

Set 1 (RBK 1.0)---Start of pre-season through November or December, depending upon if the team switches to 2.0, and when their 2.0s are manufactured and delivered.

Sets 2 and 3 (RBK 2.0, if a team chooses)---Some teams will switch out completely. Others might blend the 1.0 and 2.0, depending upon what the players/teams prefer.

The only exception is Colorado, which will be wearing four sets this season. Colorado’s first RBK 1.0 set bled in the laundry, and the burgundy dye turned the white parts of the jerseys pink. Colorado had to use a second RBK 1.0 set. In the NHL-MGG section we will discuss the Colorado situation, and the ramifications for collectors who pre-ordered.

How these Issues Affect Pre-Orders:

Any collector who has pre-ordered a Set 1 and prefers to switch to a Set 2 may do so. Just contact us if you have a question, or want to switch. We believe the Set 2s will be worn significantly longer than Set 1. And we believe the 2.0s will be more popular than the 1.0s.

However, it is possible that the 1.0s will become an extinct design. It is too early to say this for certain, and RBK and the NHL have made no final decisions on this. But our information today tells us that RBK will be manufacturing only 2.0s over the next few months, in order to fulfill its deliveries to the NHL teams to provide for the sets that are required.

The good news is that those of you who have pre-ordered Set 1, or would like to pre-order or order Set 1, may find that we will be delivering some sets before Christmas!!!

As always, the season-ending MGG Population Report will confirm everything done in 2007-08. Please know that we are doing everything we can to disseminate ACCURATE INFORMATION. And I can promise you we are doing everything we can as representatives of the game-worn jersey hobby to work with RBK and the NHL, which cares enough about our hobby to supply us with accurate information as it becomes available. Have there been mistakes made? Obviously. Have unseen challenges arisen that caught the league and the manufacturer by surprise? Absolutely.

But they care about the game. And they care that their product is the best it can be. I can assure you of that. We will continue to update, as information becomes available. And in the NHL-MGG Section we will discuss specific situations team-by-team.

Thanks,

Barry

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[Oberon 0]

No he's not. Dominic Moore plays on the Minnesota Wild Toronto Maple Leafs. GREG Moore plays for the New York Rangers.

[carterb 0]

It did seem like the Edge jerseys have been altered quite a bit over the course of the season. I'm glad the NHL forced the Edge jersey in, even if it was ill tested. I think some in the hockey community are so unwilling to even consider change in equipment in general. That affects us, the recreational players, because what happens in the big leagues trickles down. We won't get cutting edge technology until the pros do.

I liked the Nike Swift jerseys tremendously. I thought the players achieved a very sleek and new age look with the jersey. I hate wearing these SP and AK jerseys that feel like they weigh 50 lbs and look like balloons on people.

What material are the Edge socks made of? Play-Dry? I understand the complaint that you slide easier on them, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's the same with Swift socks. In European leagues, they use more lightweight material in their jerseys (although still the cut is huge), and socks are typically Poly-mesh.

[mickz 107]

No he's not. Dominic Moore plays on the Minnesota Wild Toronto Maple Leafs. GREG Moore plays for the New York Rangers.

According to TSN, Dominic plays for the Wild? http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...ubname=nhl-wild

[Oberon 0]

TSN is so yesterday...

[Reaper 0]

No he's not. Dominic Moore plays on the Minnesota Wild Toronto Maple Leafs. GREG Moore plays for the New York Rangers.

According to TSN, Dominic plays for the Wild? http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...ubname=nhl-wild

No, wait. He plays for the Flames.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...name=nhl-FLAMES

Shoot, now he plays for the Sharks.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...name=nhl-sharks

Dang, he must be tradebait as he's off to the Panthers.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...me=nhl-panthers

:D

Best trick to pull on people on the trade dealine day is to send them to the tsn page of their favourite player but change the hub to their team's arch rival. I can almost hear the freak outs.

[JCYC5 0]

So I really can "trade" Sundin then eh...

[the iceman 132]

No he's not. Dominic Moore plays on the Minnesota Wild Toronto Maple Leafs. GREG Moore plays for the New York Rangers.

According to TSN, Dominic plays for the Wild? http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...ubname=nhl-wild

No, wait. He plays for the Flames.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...name=nhl-FLAMES

Shoot, now he plays for the Sharks.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...name=nhl-sharks

Dang, he must be tradebait as he's off to the Panthers.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=21...me=nhl-panthers

:D

Best trick to pull on people on the trade dealine day is to send them to the tsn page of their favourite player but change the hub to their team's arch rival. I can almost hear the freak outs.

Now he's off to the Maple Leafs.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227044&hubname=

[Chadd 916]

I was watching a Stars game the other night and it was nice to see Modo's jersey flapping in the breeze. To me, that allows you so get a feel for the speed, something the streamlined jerseys prevent.

[mickz 107]

Nevermind about the Dominic Moore thing. I need to watch more TV to get updated on these things.

[beerleaguecaptain 1004]

I havent been able to see a game in a while so havent been able to see for myself, but has the angle and spacing of "Rangers" on the jersey been changed back to how it used to be. I can live with the more straight writing, doesn't bother me, but i still liked it better how it was.

Nope, still the same. Seam gets in the way.

Look at the pic if you have any questions about the hem. You should be able to see a line on the back that arches. That is the part that folds in and is sewn up to form the hem. They just seamripped it and let it hang loose.

Newsday and the Daily News said that the Rangers sewed up the jersey and hemmed it because the tail got caught. Here is the text from the article:

Hems stops haws

The Rangers made an adjustment of their own to another new Reebok product - the widely lampooned redesigned jersey. And the NHL is not going to make an issue of it.

Unhappy with the fact that the curved, white bottom of their home jerseys made them look like they were performing Barbecue on Ice - and that the extra material was snagging - a couple of Rangers asked equipment manager Acacio Marques to hem them. The whole team joined in, so now no Rangers look like they're wearing white aprons beneath their blue jerseys and over their red pants.

Having already ordered oversized jerseys to nullify the form-fitting look Reebok and the NHL were going for, the Rangers almost are back to the classic look that worked pretty well for 80 years. One more thing to do: Get the diagonal R-A-N-G-E-R-S back to its traditional typeface and size and again centered on the front of the jersey.

[mew1838 0]

I just think its kinda gay if you are really so picky about what you wear.