Shallow radius of hollow depth

[TBLfan 25]

tblades!

[RadioGaGa 162]

It's going to be something new that will be truly different. It'll change the sharpening world. Stay tuned.

The teasing...the teasing...it's awful. It's like cyber-bullying *L*

[jere26 5]

Hmmm. Interesting turn of this thread. If blade design and material stays the same, then I can't see sharpening technology changing much. Even if the blade gets cut with a lazer, it still would need sharpened edges and a hollow. That leads me to believe that it's some new kind of blade design that performs similar to a traditional blade, but with a radical looking cross-section. Think T-Blades, but different. Oh well, we'll find out one of these days. :D

[Rustpot 1]

Hmmm. Interesting turn of this thread. If blade design and material stays the same, then I can't see sharpening technology changing much. Even if the blade gets cut with a lazer, it still would need sharpened edges and a hollow. That leads me to believe that it's some new kind of blade design that performs similar to a traditional blade, but with a radical looking cross-section. Think T-Blades, but different. Oh well, we'll find out one of these days. :D

T-blades changed material only. They show up at your door sharp, you use them then throw the Ti runners away or recycle or whatever. Still had a rocker, hollow, etc that you preselect.

JR/Chadd- is this something you saw at the trade show you just attended?

[Jordan 13]

Two guesses:

A substantial change in the width of the steel, making the ideal hollows quite different than today

or

Sharpening with different shaped or compund hollow.

I have no idea about either of these, but I thought guessing could be interesting. Any other guess out there?

[bbruins8 0]

They are probably referring to the spinner system they saw in Vegas, discussed in general here.

If you research it, you can find some info about it on the web. I'm thinking that's what they are talking about.

[lampliter87 8]

this it?

http://www.blackstonesport.com/index.html

what's so revolutionary???

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Sharpening with different shaped or compund hollow.

You know I just gotta do it...

[Stampeder 2]

Using the exclusive "Scissor System", designed and patented by Black Stone Sports, any level of experience can now attain sharp square edges for both hockey and figure skates.

No hollow at all? Ah I have no idea.

[Shark#81 0]

square to me means that the edges are true and even - so a coin sits dead level along the entire blade.

I wouldn't mind a better surface finish on the bottom of the blade off the bench. When a stone grinds it, the finish is rough and creates drag.

After a few games the impurities in the ice polish the running surface,and the skates are real sweet, about 3-4 games before the edges drop off completely. One game too many or a rapid fall in outside temp and it's trouble.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Using the exclusive "Scissor System", designed and patented by Black Stone Sports, any level of experience can now attain sharp square edges for both hockey and figure skates.

No hollow at all? Ah I have no idea.

Scissor System was their old holder. This quote has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

Square means two level edges.

[tryandstopme 35]

It's going to be something new that will be truly different. It'll change the sharpening world. Stay tuned.

Is this something that we'll see having an impact in 2008, or probably in a couple of years or so?

[RadioGaGa 162]

This like "New Gear 20 Questions..."

Is it bigger than a bread box?

[burrn 0]

Two guesses:

A substantial change in the width of the steel, making the ideal hollows quite different than today

or

Sharpening with different shaped or compund hollow.

I have no idea about either of these, but I thought guessing could be interesting. Any other guess out there?

change of blade width doesn't seem that radical as an idea..although it will make a way too big change in feel. and i don't think we want that!

so that leaves us with "change of hollow shape"?

maybe like trianglular or something :P

because at least we're gonna need a blade of some sort, whatever the material, and we're also gonna need 2 edges(in/out), so that's really only what I can think of right now...

or maybe have like 3 or 4 edges!? nah.

just kidding... :lol:

[Chadd 916]

They are probably referring to the spinner system they saw in Vegas, discussed in general here.

If you research it, you can find some info about it on the web. I'm thinking that's what they are talking about.

No.

While I do love the spinner system, it is simply a tool to ensure you get the perfect radius on the wheel every time. It's revolutionary but not what we're talking about.

[ktang 34]

Titanium t'blades that never need sharpening. Lightweight, so that the player has more energy at the end of the game. Factory-cast edge for razor-sharp turns. Less drag than stainless steel blades, allowing the player to have greater speed.

[Jordan 13]

Sharpening with different shaped or compund hollow.

You know I just gotta do it...

There could be dies of several shapes and dimensions that dress the grinding wheel. Of course, they couldn't swing up and down vertically like current systems; but, they could be added to a fixture that approached the wheel on a horizontal plane and cut the grinding wheel into the desired shape.

I wonder what shapes would have intersting characteristics, or if you culd blend different hollows onto a blade, such as flatter in the middle section for more glide and deeper on the front and/or back for more edge in turns??

[jere26 5]

What about tapered blades (front to back), like downhill snow skis? Imagine the bottom surface of the skate blade narrowing near the middle of the length of the blade. Snow skis are designed this way to enhance "carving" through the turns. Sounds like it would be a pain to sharpen without a CNC machine, though.

[Krutch 0]

The hollow you run is really dependent on quite a few things:

I have a computer program that spits out suggested hollows. Calcs said I should move higher, so I did. I ran 7/8's for a shinny session and last nite's game. Felt great, loved it. I might even try 1". Very smooth, and the skates are easy to handle.

Mind sharing what program this is?

[JR97 2]

What about tapered blades (front to back), like downhill snow skis? Imagine the bottom surface of the skate blade narrowing near the middle of the length of the blade. Snow skis are designed this way to enhance "carving" through the turns. Sounds like it would be a pain to sharpen without a CNC machine, though.

The side cut on skis and snowboards is to react with the camber so that when the board or ski flexes it creates more edge contact area. I don't know if that can work with skate blades.

[Jordan 13]

Camber and a flexing in the manner of a snow ski, would not work for a skate blade.

[TheBert 0]

The hollow you run is really dependent on quite a few things:

I have a computer program that spits out suggested hollows. Calcs said I should move higher, so I did. I ran 7/8's for a shinny session and last nite's game. Felt great, loved it. I might even try 1". Very smooth, and the skates are easy to handle.

Mind sharing what program this is?

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...st&p=526143

It was a spreadsheet that Shark posted a month or so ago. Obviously use it as a guide only.

[Trudy14 0]

People from all over send their steel to HERE to get custom cuts. They have a lot of good info on skate sharpening and they do a great job.

[Chadd 916]

People from all over send their steel to HERE to get custom cuts. They have a lot of good info on skate sharpening and they do a great job.

They're members here.

[Trudy14 0]

People from all over send their steel to HERE to get custom cuts. They have a lot of good info on skate sharpening and they do a great job.

They're members here.

Sure are, I also work there haha (I didn't want it to come off as a sales pitch when I posted the link). My boss is the one that showed me MSH.