Drewhunz 3 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Jeremy succumbed to his injuries from his accident on Saturday in Costa Rica. Prayers to his family. It's been somewhat obvious in the advancement of tricks that this outcome was only a matter of time, but this will rock the lifestyle to it's core since he was a marquis performer.ANY member posting video of this accident will be BANNED, so be forewarned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allsmokenopancake 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 That's terrible news, but you knew it was coming. I've seen the video, and he held position for a long time (relatively that is), but that's where the sport was going.They done a piece on Travis Pastrana and him practicing his tricks into the foam pit, and asked him if he ever got scared of dying. He said you can't think about it if you want to keep pushing yourself to be the best.Wonder how many will be able to keep not thinking about it now.It's a shame for the sport, and obviously a tragedy for the family and friends of lusk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire0nIce228 1 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Prayers to the family..It is saddening to have this happen. I wish it never would but with those guys pushing the envelope so far..RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willsnipe 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 I watched the video, not too pleasant at all. I thought he was gone as soon as he hit the ground. Does anyone remember the crash he had during the x games this summer? Pretty much the exact same thing, only that time he was unhurt. RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laquinta 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Very Sad. I did not know who Jeremy Lusk was until i watched that video, although i wish i hadn't. That has no right being on Youtube with out some warning, like other certain videos, however, my prayers and condolensecs to Jeremy's family, and may he rest in peace! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacey 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 That's terrible news, but you knew it was coming. I've seen the video, and he held position for a long time (relatively that is), but that's where the sport was going.They done a piece on Travis Pastrana and him practicing his tricks into the foam pit, and asked him if he ever got scared of dying. He said you can't think about it if you want to keep pushing yourself to be the best.Wonder how many will be able to keep not thinking about it now.It's a shame for the sport, and obviously a tragedy for the family and friends of luskI agree, it is the nature of the beast. Extreme sports is all about novelty and with every new face that pops up in the big leagues, the bar is pushed further and further away; the honest truth is, we all saw this coming. Pastrana's mentality is what drives the world of extreme sports and although his comment has merit, it still exudes a ere of stupidity and immaturity in my honest opinion. Yes, striving to become the best is every athlete's goal but you still have to let your common sense chime in once in a while and keep your head grounded on what is actually tangible and what is far fetched. I dirt jumped competitively for 5 years and understand the need to push the envelope. I have endured more broken bones than I can count but I can't say one of them was worth it. I quite because I realized some of the stunts I was pulling was not worth the cash prizes and permanent damage.The world of extreme sports is all about having the biggest cajones and trying to prove to everyone yours are the biggest. At some point you just have to realize everybody has them too and it's not going to matter whose are the biggest. Reputation comes from within, and just like confidence, if it is there, it will permeate outward on its own then everyone will see and know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tailboard Jockey 25 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 I'm sure we'll see more amateurs getting seriously injured or killed, trying to copy Travis' new show, "Nitro Circus". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkptTiger 1 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 Certainly a sad story. You have to feel badly not only for his family/friends, but really everyone who competes in those events. In the wake of the Don Sanderson incident, I know it can be tough to look at something like this and be confronted with the fact that it could just as easily have been anyone else (either yourself or a teammate/close friend)...and that's what FMX riders are faced with right now.Pastrana's mentality is what drives the world of extreme sports and although his comment has merit, it still exudes a ere of stupidity and immaturity in my honest opinion.You could argue that this is the mentality any athlete would have to possess to become "elite." If you fear the dangers of your sport and try to acknowledge and cater to the limitations/vulnerabilities of your body, you can't perform. We lie-down in-front of 90mph slappers, crash into each other at break-neck speeds, play hurt and shed our gloves and helmets and throw haymakers. Baseball players crowd the plate while pitchers throw 90-95mph gas (and face come-backers that leave bats at twice that speed) and run head-long into outfield walls. Football players put their bodies on the line nearly every Sunday of the season. Basketball players...well...nevermind about basketball players. MMA needs no explanation. Obviously, we all see how dangerous the world of extreme sports is...etc.I know that if I don't put myself in a shooting lane or throw a hit or drop the gloves when the occasion calls for it, I might not see much ice the rest of the night...and if those problems become habitual, I am in danger of being scratched from the line-up entirely down the road. On the ball field, I know that it's probably pretty hard to get comfortable at the plate if the possibility of getting plunked is running through my mind. And, while I don't have much (or any, in some cases) experience with the other sports I brushed upon, I'm sure that others here do, and could attest that it would be pretty difficult to compete at a high level with fears nagging in the back of your mind.Obviously, you have a background with this particular niche of extreme sport; you know (as we all do, now) the risks involved and the rewards that, depending on how you choose to think, may or may not outweigh them. Call it "stupidity" or "immaturity" or whatever. People rationalize things differently. In the world of competitive sports, you can either protect yourself a bit and hope for the best...or you can decide not to play. We know which category guys like Pastrana fall into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xstartxtodayx 343 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 This was a pretty brutal video to watch, I'm surprised he didn't pass away immediately after seeing it :-( (for what it's worth, there was a warning before the video by youtube and I had to sign in to my account and verify my birth date to watch the video, so they're taking good measures to ensure viewers know it's something graphic).After seeing this and reading some of the responses here I'm reminded of an old quote, I don't remember who said it and I don't remember it exactly but it was something to this extent..." the only real sports are bull fighting, motor racing, and mountain climbing; this is because these are the only times when the sport can win"As I said, I don't remember it exactly or who said it but it was something to that extent. It's a very unfortunate and sad event when the sport does win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laquinta 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 This was a pretty brutal video to watch, I'm surprised he didn't pass away immediately after seeing it :-( (for what it's worth, there was a warning before the video by youtube and I had to sign in to my account and verify my birth date to watch the video, so they're taking good measures to ensure viewers know it's something graphic).After seeing this and reading some of the responses here I'm reminded of an old quote, I don't remember who said it and I don't remember it exactly but it was something to this extent..." the only real sports are bull fighting, motor racing, and mountain climbing; this is because these are the only times when the sport can win"As I said, I don't remember it exactly or who said it but it was something to that extent. It's a very unfortunate and sad event when the sport does win.When I watched it, I did not have to sign in, or confirm anything! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Harris 31 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 " the only real sports are bull fighting, motor racing, and mountain climbing; this is because these are the only times when the sport can win"Have you ever seen a bull fight?I saw one once in Tijuana and it's not quite the sport you think. First they drug the bull, then riders on horses with bamboo "suits" stab four spears into the bull, before a rider finally severs a tendon in the bull's neck to prevent him from raising his head (although that may have occurred before the four spears). Finally, the matador prances around against a drugged and dying bull while the crowd goes wild.I sat there hoping the bull had one last act of desperation, because it was such a one-sided fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack 44 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 I think the "It's Mexico" card has justification to be played here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willsnipe 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2009 The thing that concerned me, was how the medical staff just cranked his body, trying to get him onto the board. With life threathening spinal injuries that is the last thing you should be doing. To me, it just looked like shoddy medical practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPest19 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2009 I'm sure we'll see more amateurs getting seriously injured or killed, trying to copy Travis' new show, "Nitro Circus".New show? New to MTV but the Nitro Circus videos have been around for a while. But it is typical MTV to take shows that have been around and reuse the concept. That's terrible news, but you knew it was coming. I've seen the video, and he held position for a long time (relatively that is), but that's where the sport was going.They done a piece on Travis Pastrana and him practicing his tricks into the foam pit, and asked him if he ever got scared of dying. He said you can't think about it if you want to keep pushing yourself to be the best.Wonder how many will be able to keep not thinking about it now.It's a shame for the sport, and obviously a tragedy for the family and friends of luskI agree, it is the nature of the beast. Extreme sports is all about novelty and with every new face that pops up in the big leagues, the bar is pushed further and further away; the honest truth is, we all saw this coming. Pastrana's mentality is what drives the world of extreme sports and although his comment has merit, it still exudes a ere of stupidity and immaturity in my honest opinion. Yes, striving to become the best is every athlete's goal but you still have to let your common sense chime in once in a while and keep your head grounded on what is actually tangible and what is far fetched. I dirt jumped competitively for 5 years and understand the need to push the envelope. I have endured more broken bones than I can count but I can't say one of them was worth it. I quite because I realized some of the stunts I was pulling was not worth the cash prizes and permanent damage.The world of extreme sports is all about having the biggest cajones and trying to prove to everyone yours are the biggest. At some point you just have to realize everybody has them too and it's not going to matter whose are the biggest. Reputation comes from within, and just like confidence, if it is there, it will permeate outward on its own then everyone will see and know. The best and worst thing to happen to Pastrana was dislocating his spine. Most people would have been laid up for over a year recovering. 6 months later hes competing at full throttle. After being in that much pain he knows he can pretty much recover from almost anything and come back and still ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfpack_1986 154 Report post Posted February 14, 2009 The thing that concerned me, was how the medical staff just cranked his body, trying to get him onto the board. With life threathening spinal injuries that is the last thing you should be doing. To me, it just looked like shoddy medical practice.yeah, but he was dead anyway, you can make a neck injury worse, but brain injury is what nailed him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPest19 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2009 The thing that concerned me, was how the medical staff just cranked his body, trying to get him onto the board. With life threathening spinal injuries that is the last thing you should be doing. To me, it just looked like shoddy medical practice.yeah, but he was dead anyway, you can make a neck injury worse, but brain injury is what nailed him.No he wasnt. He lived for 2 days after the accident happened. willsnipe brought up a great point. In a situation like that the last thing you want to do is move a person like that. It could aggravate and make injuries worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfpack_1986 154 Report post Posted February 16, 2009 my point was, he would have likely succumbed to the brain injuries anyway, not the neck. Not that i'm advocating moving potnetial neck injuries, or that these guys were right in their care.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not going to say moving him was a great idea, but then again with a crash like that he could easily have had broken ribs going through his lungs and be drowning in his own blood. Had that been the case and he been left there that would have killed him all the same, so it's a bit of a damned if you do and damned if you don't.Sure, there's risk in every sport. But the risk of getting hit with a puck or nailed with a pitch just don't measure up to the risk taking involved in this kind of nonsense. Even getting checked or tackled, it's never going to be anywhere close to the forces involved with a dirtbike traveling 40 or 50 miles an hour throwing you several stories in the air. I think motocross and supercross are prefectly legit sports. However, these sorts of competitions reek of providing an outlet for guys to make up for an inability to compete in legit motor sports by taking silly risks. Probably more than time for the promoters of these events to step back and reconsidered whether putting these kinds of shows on is really a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lotus 2 Report post Posted February 17, 2009 Terrible thing to hear. Don't ever want to see the video. The internet has desensitized people way too much, don't know how anyone can bother to see it.r.i.p.Say what you will, at least he was doing what he loved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPest19 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not going to say moving him was a great idea, but then again with a crash like that he could easily have had broken ribs going through his lungs and be drowning in his own blood. Had that been the case and he been left there that would have killed him all the same, so it's a bit of a damned if you do and damned if you don't.Sure, there's risk in every sport. But the risk of getting hit with a puck or nailed with a pitch just don't measure up to the risk taking involved in this kind of nonsense. Even getting checked or tackled, it's never going to be anywhere close to the forces involved with a dirtbike traveling 40 or 50 miles an hour throwing you several stories in the air. I think motocross and supercross are prefectly legit sports. However, these sorts of competitions reek of providing an outlet for guys to make up for an inability to compete in legit motor sports by taking silly risks. Probably more than time for the promoters of these events to step back and reconsidered whether putting these kinds of shows on is really a good idea.Not really. Alot of them were pretty good motocross riders and this is the path they decided to take on a motorcycle. You could put them on a track right now and they would do better than you think. What it comes down to is they didnt want to deal with the hassle of dealing with factories and what comes along with the factory ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not going to say moving him was a great idea, but then again with a crash like that he could easily have had broken ribs going through his lungs and be drowning in his own blood. Had that been the case and he been left there that would have killed him all the same, so it's a bit of a damned if you do and damned if you don't.Sure, there's risk in every sport. But the risk of getting hit with a puck or nailed with a pitch just don't measure up to the risk taking involved in this kind of nonsense. Even getting checked or tackled, it's never going to be anywhere close to the forces involved with a dirtbike traveling 40 or 50 miles an hour throwing you several stories in the air. I think motocross and supercross are prefectly legit sports. However, these sorts of competitions reek of providing an outlet for guys to make up for an inability to compete in legit motor sports by taking silly risks. Probably more than time for the promoters of these events to step back and reconsidered whether putting these kinds of shows on is really a good idea.Not really. Alot of them were pretty good motocross riders and this is the path they decided to take on a motorcycle. You could put them on a track right now and they would do better than you think. What it comes down to is they didnt want to deal with the hassle of dealing with factories and what comes along with the factory ride.I really have to doubt it. I can remember when Mike Metzger started this stuff, very back of the pack guy that managed a breif stint of attention doing tricks no one else did. Travis Pastrana had some good years and he had some terrible years, of course back then everyone was racing in the shadow of Jeremy McGrath, even if you were on the 125's. The reality is there only some many rides from either the factories or the private teams and not everyone is going to get one. With the differences in the money you can make doing silly life threatening tricks compared to what you'd make even on the motocross circut (let alone supercross) I seriously doubt anyone that has a choice would choose the silly tricks for dime bag money. It's a bit like claiming that you could play in the NHL but chose to play in the ECHL because you don't want to have to deal with the players' association. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPest19 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not going to say moving him was a great idea, but then again with a crash like that he could easily have had broken ribs going through his lungs and be drowning in his own blood. Had that been the case and he been left there that would have killed him all the same, so it's a bit of a damned if you do and damned if you don't.Sure, there's risk in every sport. But the risk of getting hit with a puck or nailed with a pitch just don't measure up to the risk taking involved in this kind of nonsense. Even getting checked or tackled, it's never going to be anywhere close to the forces involved with a dirtbike traveling 40 or 50 miles an hour throwing you several stories in the air. I think motocross and supercross are prefectly legit sports. However, these sorts of competitions reek of providing an outlet for guys to make up for an inability to compete in legit motor sports by taking silly risks. Probably more than time for the promoters of these events to step back and reconsidered whether putting these kinds of shows on is really a good idea.Not really. Alot of them were pretty good motocross riders and this is the path they decided to take on a motorcycle. You could put them on a track right now and they would do better than you think. What it comes down to is they didnt want to deal with the hassle of dealing with factories and what comes along with the factory ride.I really have to doubt it. I can remember when Mike Metzger started this stuff, very back of the pack guy that managed a breif stint of attention doing tricks no one else did. Travis Pastrana had some good years and he had some terrible years, of course back then everyone was racing in the shadow of Jeremy McGrath, even if you were on the 125's. The reality is there only some many rides from either the factories or the private teams and not everyone is going to get one. With the differences in the money you can make doing silly life threatening tricks compared to what you'd make even on the motocross circut (let alone supercross) I seriously doubt anyone that has a choice would choose the silly tricks for dime bag money. It's a bit like claiming that you could play in the NHL but chose to play in the ECHL because you don't want to have to deal with the players' association.Metzger, Pastrana, Deegan all had factory rides. All decided to turn to FMX because it suited how they wanted to do things. They didnt want to deal with the hassles of having to deal with factories and what went along with it. Considering the top guys make just as much, if not more, in FMX as the top supercross riders do, Id say yeah they do have a choice. Id say its a safe to bet to say Pastrana makes more than any supercross rider, because hes one of the best motorcyle riders in the world, that doesnt have to deal with racing supercross. The guy has become a rally car champion, solo'ed the Baja 1000, has his own companies. All of this from FMX rather than supercross. The same can be said for Deegan. Parts in movies, video and board games, clothing company. All from FMX. The same for Meztger. Its not silly tricks for dime bag money. These guys wanted to run their careers the way THEY wanted to, not the way a factory wanted them to. And they are all much richer because of it for the reason their path gave them the time to do these other things that they wouldnt have been able to by racing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites