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W.Heinle

Injurries with visor

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Go ahead, ask around your town or shop or anywhere else, you'll find someone who thinks that kids growing up in hockey today are more careless with their sticks because they are required to wear a full cage for so long. More respect and control can prevent a lot of injuries in hockey, and that goes well beyond sticks and pucks to the face.

Is it presumptuous to have a nuance opinion on the issue? I guess so....

I am 20 years old in my first league. I played with a Visor to start with, but have since switched to a Cage for this exact reason. It was suggested by the other people on my team who have been around alot longer to wear a cage simply because people with cages and the such are a lot more careless with their sticks.

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i'm 27 and i use a visor. i used to use nothing but had a few close calls with sticks getting close to my eyes. now i use the dx100 or hs22 with a proform mouthguard. i was in a hockey scuffle in front of the net and the guy grabbed me from behind and tried pulling off my helmet. the dx100 came up and cut/scraped me on the high cheek right up to underneath the eye. looked worse than it was had a shiner for about a week. took a deflected puck on the sheild couple months ago with no ill effects.

i agree with some cage wearers being careless with their sticks at times. goes for guys without cages as well.

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How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

I can't switch to using a mouth guard. I was wearing one as a kid, still had the cage on and took a cross-check to the face. It may have saved a concussion, but caused a dislocated jaw. All of the pressure applied from the stick dispursed into the back of my jaw and popped it out of place. I can now pop it out any time I want. It's great for parties, but hurts like hell some days. I'll take a brokedn tooth or two before I ever have that again.

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The visor is all i really wear for protection on my face, and I've only been bloodied a few times, once on the chin and once on the cheek. no stitches either time.

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Without delving into the minutia over cage vs fishbowl vs visor...

I've only been injured twice to the face since starting to play without full facial protection.

1) In a fight in a preseason camp in junior when the eager beaver trying to make the team disobeyed coaches orders in that we are to remove helmets prior to fighting to avoid injuried the douche jumped me, and my visor and helmet moved on my head and the visor bottom took a chunk out of my orbital bone on my eye and cut me for 4 stitches. I can still feel the notch in my eye socket to this day (happened 10 years ago now)

2) Got a puck in the mouth just below my lower teeth. Cut me for 8 stiches in and 7 out. (was wearing a mouthgard, puck basically pinched my skin between my lower teeth and puck and got a pretty ragged scar.

The visor has saved my eyes many times (pucks, sticks etc)

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Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

Was he wearing a mouthguard?

I've been considering moving to a visor set-up, but stories like these and others on here are making me re-consider.

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Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

Was he wearing a mouthguard?

I've been considering moving to a visor set-up, but stories like these and others on here are making me re-consider.

I'm not sure if he was wearing a mouthguard. I wasn't on the ice at the time, and I don't want to guess. We did spend a few minutes looking for his chicklets though but didn't find them. I'm not sure what you do if they are found anyways, except maybe cash them in with the tooth fairy.

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Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

Was he wearing a mouthguard?

I've been considering moving to a visor set-up, but stories like these and others on here are making me re-consider.

I'm not sure if he was wearing a mouthguard. I wasn't on the ice at the time, and I don't want to guess. We did spend a few minutes looking for his chicklets though but didn't find them. I'm not sure what you do if they are found anyways, except maybe cash them in with the tooth fairy.

Its definitely worth looking for lost teeth because if he was lucky and they still had their roots in tact, it is possible to have them re-implanted, given its done emergently and the teeth and roots are in good condition...

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I agree, if they're out at the roots, but these were cracked down the middle, not taken out at the roots.

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I agree, if they're out at the roots, but these were cracked down the middle, not taken out at the roots.

My fault, I missed that part. I guess they do make a good keepsake though... B)

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Guy on my team got into a fight while wearing his visor and it cut him up pretty badly on his cheek.

Guy in my league got in a fight with his cage still on. Class-A bitch.

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I am not very good but wear a shield, am I a tool or something? I do wear a mouthguard, and I basically made the switch since I mainly mess around in the infrequent skate and shoot to get better at playing, and was really struggling with my shield-cage combo since I also have to wear eyeglasses and everything would constantly fog up. I have had one near incident where I was playing in a local pond tourney and had a puck roll up my stick into my shield which basically knocked it back on its screws (I wear mine fully extended if that makes any sense) but aside from that nothing terrible thus far. I do know I am taking a higher risk, but I like the better range of head movement and would certainly switch back if I join a league that requires it or my impressions tell me to switch back.

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I am not very good but wear a shield, am I a tool or something? .

No, just keep your stick down and enjoy the game of hockey........

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I am not very good but wear a shield, am I a tool or something? I do wear a mouthguard, and I basically made the switch since I mainly mess around in the infrequent skate and shoot to get better at playing, and was really struggling with my shield-cage combo since I also have to wear eyeglasses and everything would constantly fog up. I have had one near incident where I was playing in a local pond tourney and had a puck roll up my stick into my shield which basically knocked it back on its screws (I wear mine fully extended if that makes any sense) but aside from that nothing terrible thus far. I do know I am taking a higher risk, but I like the better range of head movement and would certainly switch back if I join a league that requires it or my impressions tell me to switch back.

I used to wear a cage with glasses. Switched to the FX-50 with glasses. Couldn't stand the fogging to my glasses and got contacts (Well, I play soccer too so the contacts come in handy).

I play in quite a wide range, from beginner hockey to advanced (against some Jr C guys). The shield is pretty scratched up and I know quite a few sticks and pucks went up there. (Surprisingly, it's the beginner hockey that's the roughest as some of the guys either don't know how to play or tries a little too hard.)

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I used to wear a cage with glasses. Switched to the FX-50 with glasses. Couldn't stand the fogging to my glasses and got contacts (Well, I play soccer too so the contacts come in handy).

I play in quite a wide range, from beginner hockey to advanced (against some Jr C guys). The shield is pretty scratched up and I know quite a few sticks and pucks went up there. (Surprisingly, it's the beginner hockey that's the roughest as some of the guys either don't know how to play or tries a little too hard.)

Same thing. Used to do the cage with glasses thing too, but between the frame of my glasses and the wire cage, my field of vision was way to busy. Switched to contacts and a half shield and never looked back. But after reading this thread, I think i might put the bird cage back on.

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I only wear a visor for coaching goalies; I've been clipped a couple of times by careless shooters with their sticks up. I used to wear a ball-cap, but having my legs taken out from behind by a sliding goalie and nearly getting my head split open changed that in a hurry.

Though I've skated out about a dozen times in my entire life, I always wear a cage. I won't even switch to a cat-eye on my goalie masks. I don't have a problem seeing through a CSA straight-bar so I don't see any reason to compromise protection when there are times I'm playing against certifiable idiots who still think they're impressing people in the MTHL. The number of time I've been speared in the face with the toe of a composite blade while covering the puck more than confirms that decision.

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Haha - they don't call it that, but I still do! :)

I know, so does my boss. He used to play there as well.

My son is in the 'new' GTHL :)

Btw. I got the Oakley combo off ebay a little while ago, so I guess I'll keep the lower cage part on. I was thinking about removing it.

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totally agree with ahriman.

I can't stand the old people in pickup leagues that play the body and slash like crazy. It's usually the defenseman who have barely any skill and who pride themselves for their defense. They also have a real attitude towards them because usually they work like sons of bitches in their day job, and friday night hockey is the best moment of the week for them. In fact , if it were just the "hot shots" playing it would be much more fun in my opinion. More skating, and less stick work is a recipe for a good time.

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I completely understand what you guys are saying about the "hacks" but I completely disagree with the fact that it's either the old guys or the young guys. I'm knocking on 40's door. I play a drop in style very similar to your style. Blacks vs whites, no score board, no refs. We have a mix of guys but most are about my age and have played at the very least HS Varsity and in most cases, juniors, college and/or pro. The core of the group never changes. There are always some that come and go. These are usually the problem. Some are 21 year old jackasses and some are 40 year old jackasses. I got out of league play because most of the guys there feel like they are "playing for something". The core of my group finances this pick up game to avoid those jackasses.

I truly believe it really comes down to this. There are two types of adult players. One group (type A) that has played his whole life, and happy with his accomplishments, has seen his better days and realizes those are past, and plays purely for the passion of the game that lives within. Then there is the OTHER group (Type B). May or may not have played their whole life but if they have, they feel they didn't accomplish something that they wished they did. They can't accept their best days are done and gone and feel like they have to prove something everytime they hit the ice.

I prefer to play with type A and feel many of the Type B catagory are these jackasses we talk about... regardless of age.

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I completely understand what you guys are saying about the "hacks" but I completely disagree with the fact that it's either the old guys or the young guys. I'm knocking on 40's door. I play a drop in style very similar to your style. Blacks vs whites, no score board, no refs. We have a mix of guys but most are about my age and have played at the very least HS Varsity and in most cases, juniors, college and/or pro. The core of the group never changes. There are always some that come and go. These are usually the problem. Some are 21 year old jackasses and some are 40 year old jackasses. I got out of league play because most of the guys there feel like they are "playing for something". The core of my group finances this pick up game to avoid those jackasses.

I truly believe it really comes down to this. There are two types of adult players. One group (type A) that has played his whole life, and happy with his accomplishments, has seen his better days and realizes those are past, and plays purely for the passion of the game that lives within. Then there is the OTHER group (Type B). May or may not have played their whole life but if they have, they feel they didn't accomplish something that they wished they did. They can't accept their best days are done and gone and feel like they have to prove something everytime they hit the ice.

I prefer to play with type A and feel many of the Type B catagory are these jackasses we talk about... regardless of age.

Completely agree, I'm about to play in my first real men's league, it is geared toward players that have played at least high school varsity, juniors, or college, so I am pretty reluctant to switch out my cage for a visor just because I don't want to run into the guys that are still "livin the dream"

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