The 2009-2010 Suspension Thread

[Trooper 8]

Yah, you'd think someone within the league would have a little more tact then that.

That's the problem with taking guys and making them executives just because they have NHL or high level hockey experience.

[Law Goalie 147]

Cherry put together a little Matt Cooke highlight reel tonight, showcasing about a dozen prime examples of intentional kneeing and headshots.

Thus it has been demonstrated that Matt Cooke is exactly the same player Ulf Samuelsson would have been if he'd been castrated just before complete physical development: Cooke is a bitchy Ulf without size or balls.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

Ovechkin with a not so nice hit on Campbell. Got a 5 min major for boarding. No real defending OV on this one other than thinking Campbell was closer to the boards and trying to throw him into the glass instead of down and into the boards.... But thats a stretch. So im writing this OV just got tossed from the game. You gotta be better than that OV.

[Balzinsker 0]

Ovechkin with a not so nice hit on Campbell. Got a 5 min major for boarding. No real defending OV on this one other than thinking Campbell was closer to the boards and trying to throw him into the glass instead of down and into the boards.... But thats a stretch. So im writing this OV just got tossed from the game. You gotta be better than that OV.

+1, I know he wants to be physical but you gotta be smarter about that, except if you look up finishing your check then that would be the very definition of it. Kinda tells you something about hockey culture.

[Machinehead2k5 32]

OV with his 3rd game misconduct of the season. Doesn't your 3rd misconduct of the season get you a suspension? The puck was gone before he made the hit on Soupy.

[furlanitalia 1]

I think the problem is that Alex is a big guy who plays harder and faster then most everyone else on the ice. Look at the hit on heward from last season that ended his career. He just hits hard and goes hard. Although I'm not sure why he felt the need to push him.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

I would guess because Alex is one of the most competitive players in the league. I don't think he noticed that campbell dropped the puck off. Its not in him to just skate by a player. I understand him trying to hit him, but alex has to realize that 2-3 feet from the boards is the danger zone and you can seriously hurt a guy. I love OV just as much as the next guy, but sometimes he goes TOO hard. Thats what you get when your going 100% 100% of the time. The good with the bad. Honestly, i wouldn't mind OV getting tuned to teach him a lesson. When hes hitting hard (clean) and scoring goals hes the best player in the league. but when he goes too far... your sometimes ashamed to like him.

I think the problem is that Alex is a big guy who plays harder and faster then most everyone else on the ice. Look at the hit on heward from last season that ended his career. He just hits hard and goes hard. Although I'm not sure why he felt the need to push him.

[psh 25]

Cherry put together a little Matt Cooke highlight reel tonight, showcasing about a dozen prime examples of intentional kneeing and headshots.

Thus it has been demonstrated that Matt Cooke is exactly the same player Ulf Samuelsson would have been if he'd been castrated just before complete physical development: Cooke is a bitchy Ulf without size or balls.

That was a pretty amazing service to the league provided by Cherry last night. Cooke better have a target on his back from a discipline perspective now.

[hockeysc23 0]

Ovechkin with a not so nice hit on Campbell. Got a 5 min major for boarding. No real defending OV on this one other than thinking Campbell was closer to the boards and trying to throw him into the glass instead of down and into the boards.... But thats a stretch. So im writing this OV just got tossed from the game. You gotta be better than that OV.

Ovie's hit was from the side. Campbell's toe picking and not standing his ground is what let a normal hit look and probably feel 100x worse.

A 2min penalty? maybe. 5 min major? that's a stretch. 10 min game misconduct? Horrible job by the refs.

[RadioGaGa 162]

So, What Ovechkin did today looked an awful lot like what Lapierre did last week, and since Campbell has already used past/similar incidents as a reason in not suspending Cooke....it appears (by that logic) this WILL be suspendable.

Lapierre is a 3rd/4th line grinder. Alexander Ovechkin is the face of the League. Lapierre got 4 games. So...that's where I'll set the over/under on Alex.

I think they give him 3.

[hockeysc23 0]

So, What Ovechkin did today looked an awful lot like what Lapierre did last week, and since Campbell has already used past/similar incidents as a reason in not suspending Cooke....it appears (by that logic) this WILL be suspendable.

Lapierre is a 3rd/4th line grinder. Alexander Ovechkin is the face of the League. Lapierre got 4 games. So...that's where I'll set the over/under on Alex.

I think they give him 3.

He should not be given a suspension at all for that.

Puck Daddy outlays the rules situation on the suspensions. But that hit is definitely 100% not suspension worthy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...?urn=nhl,227840

[furlanitalia 1]

Why not? He didn't play the body he just pushed Campbell from behind into the boards. The call on the ice was exactly what it should have been. I'm nit saying he deserves a suspension, but to say it wasn't suspension worthy is laughable. There was no way for Campbell to defend himself, and while the outcome of this won't surprise me either way (the way the league ha been handling things) it definitely need to be reviewed.

[hockeysc23 0]

Why not? He didn't play the body he just pushed Campbell from behind into the boards. The call on the ice was exactly what it should have been. I'm nit saying he deserves a suspension, but to say it wasn't suspension worthy is laughable. There was no way for Campbell to defend himself, and while the outcome of this won't surprise me either way (the way the league ha been handling things) it definitely need to be reviewed.

Watch the replay again. It was definitely a hit/push from the side. Should he have waved off? Maybe. It was about 3 seconds after Campbell had dished off the puck.

If you watch the replay Campbells toe starts driving into the ice before Ovie hits him. Which lead to him stumbling down as the contact occurred.

Had Campbell not toe picked on the ice. It wouldn't have been as bad.

[Ital79 0]

That's pretty clear-cut if you ask me. 5min major + a game seems reasonable for what happened on the ice.

There was no reason for the hit (no real forecheck, no scoring chance, etc). This is reckless play, which Ovi has a long history of. I wouldn't hold my breath for additional punishment from the NHL though.

[hockeyfreak7 0]

He should not be given a suspension at all for that.

Puck Daddy outlays the rules situation on the suspensions. But that hit is definitely 100% not suspension worthy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...?urn=nhl,227840

that is why he wont be assessed an automatic suspension. it is still reviewable by the league and will probably be suspended.

as far as my opinion goes- i am as big an ovechkin fan as they come, but you need to draw the line somewhere. thats a danger zone on the ice, and with campbell in a vulnerable position, it was unnecessary. like someone said above me, it almost makes you a little ashamed to be a fan.

that hit was the classic definition of boarding...given that the nhl also just imposed new rules for blindside hits, this is the PERFECT opportunity to set a new precedent. i just cant see how they wont. i love ovechkin, and i love watching the caps play, so i hope its not too long but this should be a minimum of three games if the nhl makes the right call.

as for your toe pick theory, either way, campbell is going to fall down. as long as he falls down, it will be violently into the boards. thats what happens when you take advantage of someone at that distance from the boards. the toe pick doesnt really matter at all...either way he would have went down.

[Trooper 8]

I'm constantly amazed at the rationalization when it comes to AO. If it was one time, I would buy it, maybe two. But the guy is constantly reckless, and a lot of the instances aren't just "AO going hard", they are plays that have no income on what is going on. The hit on Campbell, as was pointed out, was textbook boarding and in a situation where Campbell is completely vulnerable (just like Savard after the shot when Cooke hit him).

[BoDangles 0]

I can not believe Puck Daddy was quoted as a defense, that guy has no clue about anything.

Ovi deserves and will get something. This is similar to Lapeirre's situation, but this is already the third time this season for Ovi, so my opinion is that he deserves more than 4 games.

[jeffw 1]

I'm pretty sure he automatically gets a game for that being his second game misconduct for a boarding incident.

[hockeyfreak7 0]

I'm pretty sure he automatically gets a game for that being his second game misconduct for a boarding incident.

read the link that was posted earlier. his first boarding incident is wiped off his record since he went at least 41 (42) games without incident.

[Ital79 0]

Brian Campbell is out for the season:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=4994950

[Chadd 916]

My impression is that Ovechkin wanted to make some type of physical play on Campbell but realized that drilling him was too dangerous given their position. He shoved him, expecting Campbell to ride the push into the boards. He did not expect Campbell to be off balance and go into the boards shoulder first.

While intent is important, the result of your action is as well. Ovechkin should get 2-3 games for the hit, despite the fact that he obviously could have made a far more dangerous play that would likely have resulted in a more severe injury. The problem is Colin Campbell has allowed people with far worse records for cheap shots to walk away with less time for more severe infractions. Matt Cooke walks on his play, again. Yet Ovechkin will get suspended for the second time this season.

[LkptTiger 1]

Ovie's hit was from the side. Campbell's toe picking and not standing his ground is what let a normal hit look and probably feel 100x worse.

A 2min penalty? maybe. 5 min major? that's a stretch. 10 min game misconduct? Horrible job by the refs.

It's sad when a fan is so obviously unable to take an objective look at such a blatantly dangerous play just because he happens to root for the team/player being penalized.

Brian Campbell is out for the season:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/news/story?id=4994950

You hate to see a guy get hurt like that........but it's addition by subtraction for the Hawks, as far as I'm concerned.

[Chadd 916]

You hate to see a guy get hurt like that........but it's addition by subtraction for the Hawks, as far as I'm concerned.

They still could have used more depth at the deadline.

[camhockey16 5]

citing puck daddy as a defence is like me citing wikipedia when turning in a paper

[jeffw 1]

When a player or goalkeeper has played in 41 consecutive regular League games without being assessed a boarding and/or a checking from behind major and a game misconduct according to Rules 42 and 44, he will have the previous game misconduct penalties removed from his current record.

Has Ovechkin missed any games since his last incident?