Samsonov Curve

[Jesse_01 0]

Picked up a one95 samsonov pro-stock from a member. Great stick, handles and passes the puck like no other. Only problem is, I can't shoot with it. For those who have used similar curves, what technique do you use? I'm coming off of a iginla curve.

[Race4LastPlace 31]

For me, I ended up being able to pick corners at will. But it took a couple sessions to figure it out. I started to over exagerate my follow thru and where/how I would point the toe of the blade when the puck 'releases'. It almost felt like I would whip the toe over and downward to get good rotation and aim on the puck. Good luck with it. Especially backhands!

[Jesse_01 0]

Haha thanks. I t'd up a slap shot from top of the circle, it went over the glass. Did you shoot in stride? Big wind up, small? Where did you find it was best to shoot from on the blade?

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

dont worry, he cant shoot with it either.

[Chadd 916]

Cup it on the toe and fling it at your target.

[HattrickSwayze 3]

Yeah, shoot more off the toe. When I first got mine I put a few over the glass too. I thought the main advantage of the Samsonov curve (apart from sweet toe drags) was you could make the shots rise so quickly. Because it's so open, you could follow through less, but still pick a top corner or tuck it right under the bar. Backhands will be harder to lift, especially getting easy saucer passes, but it's do-able. Just have to adapt to it. I wish I could get more Samsonov's.

[tamtamg 12]

i have one. Going from sakic to the pro samsonov took a little adjustment. For me, I just have to make sure I turn over my wrist more on snappers and wristers. As for slappers, I tend to shoot more off the flatter mid/heel section of the curve. i think i'll be tossing mine up on the buy/sell section soon. it's too stiff for my liking.

[Race4LastPlace 31]

Cup it on the toe and fling it at your target.

Yes. Exactly. I kinda went round about way of saying it, but thats how ishoot with it....

[calishark28 0]

Man I love this curve, I can pick corners without problems and my shot was amazing

[TBLfan 25]

Yeah, pretty much from the middle of the blade to the toe is the money spot... Although I did send my fair share high and to the right, think the flex played a part in that though... because I normally send them high and to the left. :lol:

[Jesse_01 0]

I was trying to watch a video of samsonov shoot. But he pretty much always decks in and shoots close in. I always tend to shoot off of my back foot, having to work on shooting off of the front I guess. Also have to roll my wrists a lot more. Need to find a rink and bucket of pucks.

[cptjeff 0]

I was trying to watch a video of samsonov shoot. But he pretty much always decks in and shoots close in. I always tend to shoot off of my back foot, having to work on shooting off of the front I guess. Also have to roll my wrists a lot more. Need to find a rink and bucket of pucks.

Not always. Often yes, even usually, but I've seen him fire off writers on occasion, often from the circles. When he gets a chance for a full windup wrister, he shoots the damned thing faster then some NHLer's slapshots. The fastest wrister I ever saw was a goal of his from the left circle against Tampa (I think). Friggin laser.

It's a different technique though. He holds the stick fairly far in front of him, which gives him better leverage to whip the stick with both the top and bottom hand. When you start the shot, the butt end should be in front of the blade, and possibly even the puck. Lean into it and just whip the stick back with the top hand, and use the bottom hand to push the stick both into the ice and forward.

You're shooting off the toe, and you'll be using your top hand a lot more.

Edit: Another thought that should help you envision what I'm talking about. Think of batting stances in baseball. the typical wrist shot technique has the shooter in a somewhat closed stance, you want to be in a very open stance- almost fully facing the goalie, with your stick held out in front.

[MrWizard 0]

I've seen how lethal that curve is, I really have to find one so I can give it a shot...

[Half 2]

Had to look it up. Thing looks like a banana on a stick. Reminds me of the old Yzerman curve from Easton. Just load it off the toe and roll your wrists.

[TBLfan 25]

I was trying to watch a video of samsonov shoot. But he pretty much always decks in and shoots close in. I always tend to shoot off of my back foot, having to work on shooting off of the front I guess. Also have to roll my wrists a lot more. Need to find a rink and bucket of pucks.

Not always. Often yes, even usually, but I've seen him fire off writers on occasion, often from the circles. When he gets a chance for a full windup wrister, he shoots the damned thing faster then some NHLer's slapshots. The fastest wrister I ever saw was a goal of his from the left circle against Tampa (I think). Friggin laser.

It's a different technique though. He holds the stick fairly far in front of him, which gives him better leverage to whip the stick with both the top and bottom hand. When you start the shot, the butt end should be in front of the blade, and possibly even the puck. Lean into it and just whip the stick back with the top hand, and use the bottom hand to push the stick both into the ice and forward.

You're shooting off the toe, and you'll be using your top hand a lot more.

Edit: Another thought that should help you envision what I'm talking about. Think of batting stances in baseball. the typical wrist shot technique has the shooter in a somewhat closed stance, you want to be in a very open stance- almost fully facing the goalie, with your stick held out in front.

I think what you're really getting at... Extend your arms.

[Jesse_01 0]

I was trying to watch a video of samsonov shoot. But he pretty much always decks in and shoots close in. I always tend to shoot off of my back foot, having to work on shooting off of the front I guess. Also have to roll my wrists a lot more. Need to find a rink and bucket of pucks.

Not always. Often yes, even usually, but I've seen him fire off writers on occasion, often from the circles. When he gets a chance for a full windup wrister, he shoots the damned thing faster then some NHLer's slapshots. The fastest wrister I ever saw was a goal of his from the left circle against Tampa (I think). Friggin laser.

It's a different technique though. He holds the stick fairly far in front of him, which gives him better leverage to whip the stick with both the top and bottom hand. When you start the shot, the butt end should be in front of the blade, and possibly even the puck. Lean into it and just whip the stick back with the top hand, and use the bottom hand to push the stick both into the ice and forward.

You're shooting off the toe, and you'll be using your top hand a lot more.

Edit: Another thought that should help you envision what I'm talking about. Think of batting stances in baseball. the typical wrist shot technique has the shooter in a somewhat closed stance, you want to be in a very open stance- almost fully facing the goalie, with your stick held out in front.

So the bottom hand is kind of used as a pivot?

[cptjeff 0]

Yes, but it's also being used to load up the stick at the beginning of the shot, it's not just stationary.

Must be a Russian thing. Another hockey player who uses a similar curve and technique:

Then again, Kovalchuck has a more closed sweeping technique, as does Washington's other Alex, so maybe not.

[highslot84 0]

all this talk about huge toe curves makes me miss my semin stick more and more..

NEED TO GET IT REPAIRED!!!

[Jesse_01 0]

Yeah from the ovi picture, he is shooting off of his back foot. Also his arms are stretched out a bit. I always keep my hands in close to my body.

[K9 Unit 1]

you also get to see what he does to the backside of his gloves :)