bauer stick flex rating is after cutting?

[evor1 6]

I remember reading a post here where i think they said that the labeled flex rating is correct only after cutting the stick 2 inches? so a brand new stick will actually be slightly more whippy than whats rated? is this true?

[NextBobbyOrr 0]

I remember reading a post here where i think they said that the labeled flex rating is correct only after cutting the stick 2 inches? so a brand new stick will actually be slightly more whippy than whats rated? is this true?

So here's the deal. If you cut the stick to become shorter, it will become stiffer. Most Bauer sticks have an index on the top to show the measurements. If you add any extensions, it'll become whippier.

[raganblink 82]

No, what the flex is that is said on the stick will be the flex. Ie, when I buy a 102 flex stick, that is the flex, and after I cut it down 2 inches (to 112 I believe that inch is) it is still accurate on the flex of the stick. However when I keep cutting the stick down is when the flex rating isn't as true as it says it is.

Keep in mind though that they don't rate every stick you buy, maybe 1 of 12 they'll test the flex of it, if even that, so there is *some* variation between sticks between probably 2-5 flex either direction.

[jsykes 35]

This is true for Easton sticks, but Bauers are true to the full length. You'll see on the stick lines with flex ratings at different points of cutting it.

[hockeyfreak7 0]

I remember reading a post here where i think they said that the labeled flex rating is correct only after cutting the stick 2 inches? so a brand new stick will actually be slightly more whippy than whats rated? is this true?

You're thinking of Easton.

Easton expects you to cut 3" off to reach the advertised flex. For example, 85 flex Easton is really 80 flex. When you cut it 3", it becomes 85 flex.

Bauer's advertised flex is what it is uncut.

NBO- I think that goes without saying.

[cemetery 14]

Directly from Bauer's website

[Chadd 916]

That seems really high for some reason. We may have to do some independent testing on that.

[Scotty 8]

That seems really high for some reason. We may have to do some independent testing on that.

I thought their chart seemed off as well.

I had a 77 flex One95 shaft and despite being cut exactly 4" (to which Bauer states it was supposed to be a 92), it still felt like an Easton 80ish, 85 at absolute most. I understand it isn't a science, but it felt quite a bit off.

Also, you think it would vary that greatly between manufacturers? I know materials and such would play a role in the difference, but Easton's sticks claim that cutting 3" changes the flex by only 5. Bauer states a 2" cut changes it 6-7 flex. Not a huge difference, but if you go chopping off more than a couple inches...

[fiimb 1]

gotta keep in mind that if you're comparing a bauer one95 to an easton SE16 the se16 is a low kick and would therefore feel stiffer throughout most of the shaft. (i'm assuming you're comparing it to a se16, as its probably their most popular model).

a more accurate comparison would be a one95 to a s19 or ST.

also, i'm yet to figure out how the SE16 only changes from 85 to 90 flex despite cutting down 4 inches (according to their markings).

[Neal 41]

That seems really high for some reason. We may have to do some independent testing on that.

didn't Joe from Oggie Grip have a testing device? Perhaps he could be convinced to rent/lend it to MSH for the good of the hockey community? ;)

[dayroc 0]

gotta keep in mind that if you're comparing a bauer one95 to an easton SE16 the se16 is a low kick and would therefore feel stiffer throughout most of the shaft. (i'm assuming you're comparing it to a se16, as its probably their most popular model).

a more accurate comparison would be a one95 to a s19 or ST.

also, i'm yet to figure out how the SE16 only changes from 85 to 90 flex despite cutting down 4 inches (according to their markings).

In comparing the one95 and s19, isn't the s19 a low kick point and the one95 a mid? ?

how does that compare?

[chippa13 1844]

The S19 flexes similar to the One95.

[fiimb 1]

In comparing the one95 and s19, isn't the s19 a low kick point and the one95 a mid? ?

how does that compare?

the s19 is a lowmid kick similar to the one95 because the elliptical profile stiffens the end portion of the shaft.

same deal with the new rbk 808

[Tsubasa27 0]

If you take out the wood plug out of an ultra lite/z bubble (110) affect the flex?

[hockeyfreak7 0]

also, i'm yet to figure out how the SE16 only changes from 85 to 90 flex despite cutting down 4 inches (according to their markings).

Not sure where you got that. Easton's increments are 5 flex lost for every 3 inch cut.

So taking into account that an Easton 85 starts at 80 flex, if you cut off 3 inches (according to their markings) it becomes 85. Cut off one more inch and it is approximately 87 flex.

EDIT: Also, does anyone know if Easton "expects" you to cut 3" off intermediate and junior sticks? Would a 65 flex uncut really be 60?

[Scotty 8]

If you take out the wood plug out of an ultra lite/z bubble (110) affect the flex?

Yes. Any time you shorten a stick, it will increase the feeling of the stiffness of the shaft because you're effectively decreasing the length you have to exert force over.

[Tsubasa27 0]

Yes. Any time you shorten a stick, it will increase the feeling of the stiffness of the shaft because you're effectively decreasing the length you have to exert force over.

but the plug came with the shaft-----so is 110 with the plug?

[Scotty 8]

but the plug came with the shaft-----so is 110 with the plug?

From what I understand, the shaft weights are taken without the plug. Yet the stiffnesses were debated to have been taken with it. I've also heard the other way around on that second part.

[Chadd 916]

didn't Joe from Oggie Grip have a testing device? Perhaps he could be convinced to rent/lend it to MSH for the good of the hockey community? ;)

That is something Joe and I have been talking about for a while. I just got off the phone with him and we're going to try and get together to do some measurements.

[dayroc 0]

the s19 is a lowmid kick similar to the one95 because the elliptical profile stiffens the end portion of the shaft.

same deal with the new rbk 808

awesome thanks for the clear up.

I have a 65 flex s19 and a 77 flex one95.

To me it seems like the one flexes more.

Then again the s19 is newer.

[Neal 41]

That is something Joe and I have been talking about for a while. I just got off the phone with him and we're going to try and get together to do some measurements.

Thanks for taking the initiative on this. If you can make this work, I think it will be very interesting and be yet another MSH will provide information you just can't get anywhere else.

[flyers10 57]

Any update on the comparison measurements yet?

[Led Head 0]

this video was pretty helpful for me, from Ice Warehouse, there pretty knowledgable there, they say if you cut 2" off a stick your increasing the flex by 7, if you want skip to about 3:30 in the video to get to the flex part.