The 2010-2011 Suspension Thread

[Chadd 916]

Flames general manager Jay Feaster and Kostopoulos disagreed that the hit was illegal.

Did either one say any of this with a straight face. Maybe they both should watch the play again. Better yet let someone run Kostopoulos like he did Stuart & maybe he would feel differently.

They're focusing on the wording of the new head shot rule, not the fact that it was a charge and a high hit on a guy that didn't have the puck.

[goaliemanshark 6]

I take it you're new to watching the NHL? Players, media and general managers have no idea what Colin Campbell is going to rule on any situation. His lack of consistency means that nobody has the slightest clue how he will rule on each suspension.

Not new, just continually frustrated with it, and I haven't learned to accept it yet. I need to learn!

[Machinehead2k5 32]

They're focusing on the wording of the new head shot rule, not the fact that it was a charge and a high hit on a guy that didn't have the puck.

It wasn't a charge, Kosto glided into him. Stuart swung and missed the puck which ended up only a stick length away from him. You're always taught to finish your check. He did shoulder him in the head though.

[Chadd 916]

I thought his feet came off the ground on the hit, they didn't. Either way, anyone that thinks that hit is clean is out of their mind.

[zachary 2]

The hit on Stuart I thought was a so-so. I can see it being called both ways but we were taught to bury someone with their head down right? Sucks Stuart got hurt though.

How about this:

Wonder if Dubi was crying in the intermission interview?

[chippa13 1844]

Subban tried to pull that crap on a Bruin Saturday night. That guy has an ass-kicking coming.

[zachary 2]

Subban tried to pull that crap on a Bruin Saturday night. That guy has an ass-kicking coming.

Yeah man I don't condone slewfoots man. I used to do that shit when I was younger.

[Chadd 916]

... we were taught to bury someone with their head down right

And that's why the league had to step in and create a new rule, because people are more concerned with trying to "bury" someone than play hockey. The point of the game is to score goals, not knock people out.

[zachary 2]

And that's why the league had to step in and create a new rule, because people are more concerned with trying to "bury" someone than play hockey. The point of the game is to score goals, not knock people out.

Yeah but it's part of the game. I don't like to see people injured but we are also taught to play with our heads up. It's common sense and they get paid to play. Although I'm sure I would have been in the same situation at the point.

[chippa13 1844]

How do you think Pat LaFontaine or the Lindros brothers feel about it? Nothing like losing your livelihood because some guy was taught to "bury" a guy with his head down.

[steelnation248 101]

Yeah but it's part of the game. I don't like to see people injured but we are also taught to play with our heads up. It's common sense and they get paid to play. Although I'm sure I would have been in the same situation at the point.

If you watch the video Machinehead uploaded, it looks like Kostopoulos wasn't trying to play the puck, he was just going in for the hit. He could have let up or moved. I think if you're going full speed to make a hit, you should accept whatever punishment comes your way if you injure a player by hitting them high.

[zachary 2]

If you watch the video Machinehead uploaded, it looks like Kostopoulos wasn't trying to play the puck, he was just going in for the hit. He could have let up or moved. I think if you're going full speed to make a hit, you should accept whatever punishment comes your way if you injure a player by hitting them high.

He did get a hit up high and to the head obviously but if he didn't hit him in the jaw regardless he was going to probably be taken out if he took it in the chest. I'm not agreeing with hits to the head or injuring anyone but we all were taught to hit people who have their head down and he did it simple as that. Got his suspension and that's that.

[Gr8erade 1]

He did get a hit up high and to the head obviously but if he didn't hit him in the jaw regardless he was going to probably be taken out if he took it in the chest. I'm not agreeing with hits to the head or injuring anyone but we all were taught to hit people who have their head down and he did it simple as that. Got his suspension and that's that.

I think the point you're missing is that regardless of what you think you were taught, the league is trying to get away from these hits. They are bad for the players and bad for the league.

Not only that, I doubt you were taught to bury someone who isn't looking who also doesn't have the puck. If you were, then you were taught wrong. You do have a responsibility towards the player you're hitting, especially when he's that vulnerable. At a minimum, targeting a guy in the way that Stuart was targeted shows a total lack of respect. Kostopolous wasn't making a play on the puck, he was looking to knock Stuart into next week. And if you want to debate whether Stuart was close enough to the puck to be hit, Kostopolous didn't come in there looking to play the puck. He came in looking to clear Stuart out. That's why his stick was four feet above the ice.

There's really not a debate whether this was a good hit. It wasn't. And you said it yourself when you said that hitting him in the chest probably would have knocked Stuart over too. But it probably wouldn't have injured him. So it is pretty easy to deduce that this wasn't about playing the game and trying to get the puck in the net. This was about hurting Stuart. What you can reasonably debate is how many times plays like this happen and they're not called.

[camhockey16 5]

i think this is an "agree to disagree" moment

[camhockey16 5]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=549482

Predators' O'Brien suspended for two games

TORONTO - Nashville Predators defenseman Shane O'Brien has been suspended for two games and will forfeit $39,024.40 in salary for a high-sticking incident against Stephen Weiss of the Florida Panthers in NHL game #650, January 13, the National Hockey League announced today.

O'Brien, who was suspended for one game on November 3, 2009, is considered a repeat offender under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Accordingly, he forfeits his salary based on the number of games in the season (82), rather than the number of days (186). The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.

O'Brien will miss both of Nashville's weekend games -- a home and home series with the Chicago Blackhawks on Saturday and Sunday.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=92575

[vek 0]

Quite honestly, I think the only way to take this stuff out of the game is to make it a 4 on 4 league. The speed of the modern game more than makes up for the 5th player on the ice back in the day where helmets were optional and leather skates ruled.

1) You'd get teams cutting they're goons loose - too much of a liability to have on the ice 4 on 4

2) Taking a penalty would result in a 4 on 3 man advantage - much harder to kill than a 5 on 4.

3) Players going for the hit instead of playing the puck could easily result in a odd man rush.

4) Its already proven to be a more entertaining game. Who has ever turned the tv off when watching 4 on 4 in overtime? Awesome.

5) List look better with 5 things on them.

Vek out!

[camhockey16 5]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=549501

Leafs' Mike Brown suspended three games

TORONTO Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mike Brown has been suspended for three games and will forfeit $8,669.34 in salary for delivering a lateral hit to the head of Phoenix Coyotes player Ed Jovanovski in NHL game #651 last night, the National Hockey League announced today.

Brown's fine is based on his average annual salary and is calculated under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.

The incident occurred at 19:03 of the second period. No penalty was assessed on the play.

Brown will miss games Saturday's game against Calgary, Jan. 19 at the New York Rangers and Jan. 20 against Anaheim. He will be eligible to return Jan. 22 against Washington.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=0&id=92497

[n3ss 0]

Yeah but it's part of the game. I don't like to see people injured but we are also taught to play with our heads up. It's common sense and they get paid to play. Although I'm sure I would have been in the same situation at the point.

... So we play with our heads up and intentionally try to take those who get caught with their head down by targeting the head? Hitting is part of the game, as it should be.. but the brain isn't something that you want to fuck with, and i dont' think theres a whole lot of room in sports for intentionally attack it, nor for players who think its okay to do so. I'm sure the mike brow hit on jovanovski was clean too, yeah??

[EBondo 233]

Anyone see this?

[chippa13 1844]

I tell you what, you drill me with a couple of crosschecks in front of my net and you'll be getting something back along those lines.

[RadioGaGa 162]

Funny how the announcers (hmm....FS/Ducks) make no reference to the 2 crosschecks that preceeded the slash.

[WSjo22 1]

Quality slash right there haha

[camhockey16 5]

i wouldn't be surprised if something happens to yandle - im sure the ducks will be sending that video to colin campbell

im surprised the refs didnt see that

[trevor13478 1]

How about the Doughty hit on Taylor Hall, I dont see a problem with it but some people are calling for a suspension

[camhockey16 5]

i first i thought maybe he left his feet - but it doesnt look like it - i can understand edmonton being upset since he basically got hit in the head - but that was taylor halls fault, not drew doughty's - i think thats a pretty clean hip check and taylor hall just picked a bad time to lean over and put his head down.