jcp2 2 Report post Posted March 6, 2011 I watched the videos and consciously gave the parallel tracking a try. I normally do a full recovery and am pretty smooth. Much to my surprise, I was quicker to the puck even though I felt choppier. Will keep this in mind the next few sessions I play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powerfibers 8 Report post Posted March 7, 2011 I watched the videos and consciously gave the parallel tracking a try. I normally do a full recovery and am pretty smooth. Much to my surprise, I was quicker to the puck even though I felt choppier. Will keep this in mind the next few sessions I play.I tried the same and I felt a bit quicker to the puck as well in the open ice. I also spent a lot of time watching the NHLers from my upper level behind the goal seats. They seem to all wide track it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troy 12 Report post Posted March 8, 2011 I know Laura Stamm advocates bringing the stride leg under to essentially the center point of the body. But Robby Glantz shows railroad track mechanics in his videos. I would have to check but I think the premise was that even by bringing it under you don't transfer to your inside edge for push off until the foot is in the railroad position anyway.But if you learn to use the outside edge of the returning foot to stride with, that point becomes moot, and you skate even faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDougalfaschnitzer 32 Report post Posted March 10, 2011 I watched the videos and consciously gave the parallel tracking a try. I normally do a full recovery and am pretty smooth. Much to my surprise, I was quicker to the puck even though I felt choppier. Will keep this in mind the next few sessions I play.Same results for me. It's definitely not as pretty, which I find hard to switch to (haha), but the quick and constant acceleration is definitely noticeable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 10, 2011 But if you learn to use the outside edge of the returning foot to stride with, that point becomes moot, and you skate even faster.You'll have to explain in more detail or post a video, because I haven't ever heard of anyone talk of using the outside edge like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 13 Report post Posted March 10, 2011 You'll have to explain in more detail or post a video, because I haven't ever heard of anyone talk of using the outside edge like this.Watch speed skating...it easier to see: Watch when they shoot directly in front or behind. Interstingly, if you watch the start (sprint) they wide track for the first 50 or 60 meteres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troy 12 Report post Posted March 10, 2011 But if you learn to use the outside edge of the returning foot to stride with, that point becomes moot, and you skate even faster.You'll have to explain in more detail or post a video, because I haven't ever heard of anyone talk of using the outside edge like this.It's a smaller stride, to picture it, imagine drawing a line on the ice where the blade makes contact. With this method the blade will make an elongated oval, as opposed to a straight line with a gap at the end of the stride to where the striding foot is returned once the stride is complete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 10, 2011 Yeah, I just misunderstood what was said. I thought you were implying somehow using the outside edge to push. While that may generate more speed in the long run, I don't see it helping as much in hockey. I'd be curious to see a breakdown of stride type for a shift or partial shift. I imagine most would look something like:3 acceleration stridesglidestoplateral steps into a couple acceleration stridescrossoversglide acceleratefinish check (stop)I don't think there would be much 100 foot long uninterupted striding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyBoxersSayJoe 134 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 I think I remember Laura Stamm saying that a stride actually starts with the outside edge from a skating clinic I did with her maybe 10 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machinehead2k5 32 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Pavel Bure skating with his outside to inside edge push if I'm not mistaken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 I wish I had learned to skate more efficiently like Zebra describes.Whenever I've had some time off, my quads and rear end always ache and I'm laboring to skate at times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeydog 8 Report post Posted April 12, 2011 Laura Stamm's book also describes starting on an outside edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites