Semi-Pro Hockey Pay?

[Caz 0]

Anyone know how much guys in Semi-Pro Hockey make, for example, like the CHL, ECHL, SPHL, and then the European/Russian leagues? I know it for the AHL, OHL, and QMJHL.

I think this might be in the wrong section, but it said "Pro Hockey", not any other sort of pro.

[stevo_323 0]

Anyone know how much guys in Semi-Pro Hockey make, for example, like the CHL, ECHL, SPHL, and then the European/Russian leagues? I know it for the AHL, OHL, and QMJHL.

I think this might be in the wrong section, but it said "Pro Hockey", not any other sort of pro.

Pretty sure ECHL players make around 350/week or so, but they can be given a place to stay or car to drive etc, correct me if im wrong.

[ggreen 0]

Out of curiosity, do AHL players receive any additional compensation when they are called up to the NHL?

[raganblink 82]

Yes, they make nhl minimum while up...its a pay raise for sure

[twolinepass 0]

Who pays for the gear? I assume the leagues/teams have some sort of deal?

[team50 20]

Team does, however, it isn't a free for all on sticks and protective. AHL and ECHL have CCM/Reebok deal; CHL has Easton/Sherwood deal.

Does the CHL, or at least the OHL have a deal with CCM? It seems that most if not all the players wear CCM helmets and gloves.

[team50 20]

We're talking CHL, as in Central Hockey League.

Gotcha. Should have known but I happened to be watching Owen Sound vs Plymouth when I posted.

[hampshirepuck 2]

what is the pay for the QMJHL?

[shotty 7]

junior players aren't pros, so they don't technically get paid. however, they receive a stipend (fixed allowance) to compensate them while they're billeted to cover expenses, in order for them to remain 'amateur'.

junkyard: thats assuming the player has a two-way contract, correct?

[dsjunior1388 81]

Players in the Canadian Hockey League (OHL, QMJHL, WHL) are given a free education by the league after they've moved on from Major Junior. I'm not exactly sure how it is calculated, if done as one year playing equals one year of education.

As far as being on a two way deal, yes, but, as we've seen with a guy like Wade Redden, he is making HUGE dollars in the AHL.

There must not be a salary cap in the A, or at least exceptions then?

[shotty 7]

he's on an NHL contract though, playing in the minors. same story with sheldon souray. however a guy like peter schaefer has a two way deal worth $600,000 / $105,000 and a guy like marco rosa, who has never played a game in the nhl, likely has an AHL deal only, with earnings somewhat similar to the outline above.

so peter schaefer, even though he has a $600,000 contract, only made $155,000 of that because he only spent 48 days on the roster, upon his return to the ahl club, he goes back to his $105,000 deal. whereas wade redden is making 6.5M riding the bus in the minors due to his NHL contract, but because he's not on the ranger's active roster, there's no cap hit to the team. "all it costs is money".

so there's minor league deals, 2 way deals and nhl deals.

[chippa13 1844]

There must not be a salary cap in the A, or at least exceptions then?

I'm pretty sure that there isn't a hard cap in the AHL but I believe that there are roster/contract restrictions with regards to veteran players and the number of guys that teams are allowed to have at certain ranges.

[shotty 7]

chippa is correct, or at least along the lines of correct...although i dont know the details. i have heard of teams in the AHL being in predicaments where they were "loaning" players to other organizations because they were at the maximum in certain categories of player type (whether it be age, experience, contract type, etc). jeff cowan comes to mind.

[hockeyherb 1]

chippa is correct, or at least along the lines of correct...although i dont know the details. i have heard of teams in the AHL being in predicaments where they were "loaning" players to other organizations because they were at the maximum in certain categories of player type (whether it be age, experience, contract type, etc). jeff cowan comes to mind.

Unless things changed in the last year the AHL doesn't have a salary cap.

http://thetimes-tribune.com/sports/penguins/ahl-president-talks-salary-cap-in-state-of-league-address-1.559140#axzz1Iytcfx7x

"Andrews took on several topics, among them the issue of a salary cap, which the AHL currently does not have.

Most of the players on an AHL roster, including the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins, are paid by the NHL parent club. However, those AHL clubs owned by local operators - about half of the league's current 29 members - are free to add player salary on their own.

While a few - notably Hershey, Manitoba, and Chicago - do on occasion, the rest do not."

[Caz 0]

he's on an NHL contract though, playing in the minors. same story with sheldon souray. however a guy like peter schaefer has a two way deal worth $600,000 / $105,000 and a guy like marco rosa, who has never played a game in the nhl, likely has an AHL deal only, with earnings somewhat similar to the outline above.

so peter schaefer, even though he has a $600,000 contract, only made $155,000 of that because he only spent 48 days on the roster, upon his return to the ahl club, he goes back to his $105,000 deal. whereas wade redden is making 6.5M riding the bus in the minors due to his NHL contract, but because he's not on the ranger's active roster, there's no cap hit to the team. "all it costs is money".

so there's minor league deals, 2 way deals and nhl deals.

That is really interesting, thanks for covering that. Thanks for everyone responding, if anyone else has anything to add, keep it coming.

[reverseit 0]

junior players aren't pros, so they don't technically get paid. however, they receive a stipend (fixed allowance) to compensate them while they're billeted to cover expenses, in order for them to remain 'amateur'.

I thought major junior players lose NCAA eligibility because they're not "amateur"?

[bigdmac 12]

I'm not exactly sure how it is calculated, if done as one year playing equals one year of education.

You're right on with that. One year playing hockey = One year free education. I believe there is also some sort of scholarship thing they can get, say they want to become a doctor. If you spend four years in the juniors, it generally takes four years to get a bachelor of science, so that would be all paid for. The league would then pay for you to go to medical school and pay for your specialization. Not a bad deal if you can get to the juniors.

[Chadd 916]

I thought major junior players lose NCAA eligibility because they're not "amateur"?

They lose eligibility because some guys in the league have signed pro contracts. The NCAA therefore considers the league to be a pro league. If the NHL teams were able to send junior aged signed players to the ECHL or AHL, instead of back to juniors, it wouldn't be an issue at all.

[iceNsteel 0]

They lose eligibility because some guys in the league have signed pro contracts. The NCAA therefore considers the league to be a pro league. If the NHL teams were able to send junior aged signed players to the ECHL or AHL, instead of back to juniors, it wouldn't be an issue at all.

There's also the issue of the small allowance each player gets from the team. Per NCAA rules this could be consideration compensation for playing hockey and it also falls into unacceptable benefits.

[Chadd 916]

There's also the issue of the small allowance each player gets from the team. Per NCAA rules this could be consideration compensation for playing hockey and it also falls into unacceptable benefits.

While that is potentially problematic, the only issue cited in their ruling is the players on pro contracts, according to what I have read from reputable sources.

[Thinkingjack 51]

I had this question a few years ago when i worked for the roadrunners in the media booth and i got a few players to answer the question and back then they did say like 350 a week, so when the guys said a normal paycheck lo and behold they werent kidding, as far as gear its open game, they get provided with an X ammount of sticks for the year, after they burn through that they use spare sticks left from former players or they buy their own. if they're called up they bring whatever they can back. the roadrunners used the SRS system on a lot of sticks too from what their old coach told me when he used to coach kids hockey afer the team folded. The players covered their own protective gear save for helmets visors and pants everything else at their own cost unless they of course again got a call up and took care of business there on free gear if possible. when the runners covered skates the players traded or gone couldnt take them with them. thats how i was given some gear left behind when the team folded shame it got stolen

[BarDownGinos 3]

There must not be a salary cap in the A, or at least exceptions then?

If you play enough games (not sure of the required number) in the NHL during the season your contract stays at the NHL level, likewise, if you only have an NHL contract and they send you to the AHL you still get your NHL dollars.