Supreme Skate Advice

[navy21 4]

Hey all.

I've searched the forums because I know this issue has been brought up in the past, but I'm not having any luck finding it. Hoping someone might help me out.

Backstory: Started skating a year ago after a 8-10 year hiatus. Always wore EE skates in HS/College. Started skating in vapor 3.0 9.5EE that I fit for myself. Skate was starting to flex a lot with my turns so I wanted to move to a stiffer boot.

Went to two different LHS. First one left much to be desired with fitting advice. The second one had an owner who was very "in-tune" with skate fitting and has been in business for 20+ years. Told me that although I had a wider foot, my 3.0 was flexing because I wasn't filling them out well. Recommended going with a supreme line skate, and said if I was really concerned about width being an issue to go with one of the more heat moldable skates. I ended up with a supreme one.9, size 9.5D. I had them baked and one problem area around my toe punched out, and was good to go. ( posted previously about punching out a bunion)

I've skated in them 4 times, steadily progressing from a 1hr skate to a 2-3 hr skate today. Skates felt great the first 3 times, and then today mid session I developed a blister/chaffing at the area right below the "R" in "bauer" on the inside of my right boot...to the point that I could barely wear my shoes comfortably afterwards. The skin defect is about the size of a quarter. I remember another poster experiencing this, just can't find it in the forums. (and I've been looking for the better part of an hour)

Is this a common area to have a "hot-spot" in this time frame, and how long should I wait before trying to have them "punched out?"

thanks in advance.

[AIREAYE 248]

Before you do a punch/bake again, I would highly recommend trying a Superfeet footbed. If you're using stock footbeds, your arches tend to collapse, effectively widening your foot with the extra flesh. Having SF hold your foot in a more natural arched position might help with your issue. I had pretty much the same issue as you, although my blister started quite a few months after buying new skates. SF solved that for me and others as well.

[navy21 4]

Thanks for the advice.

Actually going back the other way....have sf footbed in, going to try the stock footbed with the next skate. I didn't "bake" the skates with the super feet, so I'm considering the possibility that the footbed may have adjusted my foot position adversely.

The other thing that I notice is my superfeet footbed might be a little small. Seems like there is too much space between the arch and the in step of the boot (where my blister occurred)

[GiancarloSFL 15]

I have super feet and i didn't have them in when i baked them the first time, so my skates felt really off and restricting. I baked them again and this time with the superfeet and my problem was solved. Hope that helps

[Stryker 37]

I believe it's recommended to re bake skates when putting Superfeet in them, as the heel cup adds about 3mm of padding compared to most stock foot beds. Not a lot, but enough to cause issues with some people.

[AIREAYE 248]

Make sure that the SF doesn't go into the oven with the skates, put them in after they come out.

[Jim A 4]

almost every pair of skates I break in (save for Flexlite/Nexus) I get some sort of rub. It happens, I put on a ton of Neosporin when I'm not skating and throughout the day so it heals fast and then I'm good. My Total One NXG I went barefoot too early and got a spot above the ankle. Took a couple weeks, I made sure to wear socks and now feels like an extension of the foot.

Before you go searching for the cure, remember most of this is solved by patience and time.

I've been known to wear my skates in the house for 30-40 min while watching TV in the beginning stages to quicken the process.

good luck

[SolarWind 23]

Make sure that the SF doesn't go into the oven with the skates, put them in after they come out.

I used to think the same, but then one day decided what the hek and baked with the superfeets in - guess what - came out exactly the same, no damage

so I'm now wondering whether I just been lucky and SFs do have to be taken out or it's just an urban myth and they can indeed be baked safely?

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

The reason why is because the Superfeet heel cup is glued to the sole. So, heating up the insole may separate it.

When they used to do custom ones (I still wear a pair) they would put them together and then heat them so that they would be permanent.

[AIREAYE 248]

It's not an urban myth, like JR said, there are glues and personally, I forgot to take them out of my own skates last year and some of the fabric seperated from the foam. Not sure how much of that was the bake or just the trim but a combination of solid fact and personal experience led to that comment. There really are no benefits to leaving them in.

[navy21 4]

I guess I was just a little alarmed because the skates went from one extreme (fairly comfortable) to the other (could barely finish my session on Saturday). As I mentioned, I always wore EE skates 10+ years ago, so I was a little nervous about buying a "D" width skate to begin with, despite the knowledge that skates have widened signficantly in that time frame. Just needed a little reassurance that this was normal despite the extreme "moldability" of these skates.

Considering the price of the skates it is a little un-nerving to the consider the possibility that I was fit for the wrong size.

Thanks again for the responses. Going to give my foot another couple of days to heal and then try another skate with the stock footbeds. Plan on going back and baking them again with superfeet in sometime in the next week or so.

[JJStripes 1]

Maybe try something different in the sock department to help with blister/chaffing situation.

[Lester8 11]

Navicular bone. The Supreme boot provides a lot of support in this area. Plus the ankle padding ends just short of the spot, so the contact is firm once you compress the lining. If you don't resolve the problem the bone defends itself with calcium build up. The bigger the bone grows, the faster it aggravates, and it'll defend itself over and over. Burn, blister, bleed, you name it.

Don't be a hero, do at least one of two things:

Get an orthotic to reduce the pronation allowing the extension of the navicular bone;

Punch the boot to match the shape of your bone.

Find a guy with a ball punch and a heat gun. Put in SF and pin point the spot on the inside of the boot (lining typically indicates a little wear). Heat a little, punch a little, try it on, repeat. Go slow, tip well. Pray the damage subsides.

[navy21 4]

Appreciate the help but the blister is/was just at the base of my arch, not really near the navicular bone. Luckily I have no problems in that area.

Skated with the stock insoles which seemed to make a difference. Also placed some "mole skin foam" in the area of the instep that bothered me and that certainly decreased the shear force against my foot.

It likely was a combination of the superfeet changing the "volume" after baking, poor sock choice and just over-doing it too soon. I'll probably re-bake the skates and I'm going to pay more attention to molding the instep of the boot to my foot better.

The LHS also had "rolled" the skate a little to add some width, which may have actually given me too much room, allowing my foot to slide against the inner wall.