kingofnooyork 30 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 Do they make it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3804 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 No such thing as a LS3 holder.If you're talking about LS Edge, then no, they do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofnooyork 30 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 Yeah that's what i meant sorry. Any timetable as to when they may offer it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomh7 2 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 Never unless they what a visit from Bauer's legal team. If you what Step Steel for your LS Edge, the LS3 steel is what you need.T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonesy9020 77 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 LS4 may also be available soon as it will come stock on the 1X skate. Another option at this point is to get LS3 with the Blackedge coating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A2rhino 63 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 The folks at Step said they had no plans of making this in the near future. Made it sound as if they thought this was going to be a short lived holder but were waiting to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 I find it curious that Bauer was able to get a patent for the Edge holder. I saw a very similar trigger system on a low end holder about 6 years ago. Skates were being sold in Canadian Tire under the Tackla brand.Edit: apparently they were Quickblade holders. My curiosity still applies. What makes the Edge unique enough to qualify for a patent? Did Bauer acquire Quickblade patent and modify? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonesy9020 77 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 I find it curious that Bauer was able to get a patent for the Edge holder. I saw a very similar trigger system on a low end holder about 6 years ago. Skates were being sold in Canadian Tire under the Tackla brand.Edit: apparently they were Quickblade holders. My curiosity still applies. What makes the Edge unique enough to qualify for a patent? Did Bauer acquire Quickblade patent and modify?If I had to guess, it has a lot more to do with very little incentive for CCM/Easton/Graf to try to mount a potentially expensive and lengthy legal attack on the validity of Bauer's patent. Holder tech is one of the last things most consumers (read: not whacky MSH people like us) are going to think about when buying skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 The thing about patent is, in the US anyway, is that replacement parts/consumables are not fully covered/protected. This is exactly why the Moss-magnuson Act was enacted. To provide the aftermarket the opportunity to make replacement parts, which today cover a wide variety of industry and products, from car starters to electronic parts. I would think the same applies to a consumable like a skate blade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted February 18, 2015 The thing about patent is, in the US anyway, is that replacement parts/consumables are not fully covered/protected. This is exactly why the Moss-magnuson Act was enacted. To provide the aftermarket the opportunity to make replacement parts, which today cover a wide variety of industry and products, from car starters to electronic parts. I would think the same applies to a consumable like a skate blade.That's why I don't understand why STEP runners aren't available for Edge holders. Oh well, I guess its just one of those things I will never understand. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingofnooyork 30 Report post Posted February 19, 2015 What's the deal with the Black Edge? Anybody recommend them? They seem to be low. I like the tall LS3 steel. Had the fusion on my MX3s originally and hated them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted February 19, 2015 What's the deal with the Black Edge? Anybody recommend them? They seem to be low. I like the tall LS3 steel. Had the fusion on my MX3s originally and hated them.Highly recommended. Not a lot of skaters need the taller Step runners, their main advantage is longer sharpening life. With blackedge, they have a much longer sharpening life than STEPS, even though shorter. If you need taller blades to prevent slipouts, then STEP's Blacksteel is a great choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x-track 8 Report post Posted February 19, 2015 second that .....I could go more than 6 weeks without feeling the need for sharpening with the blackedge........on regular steel , as I have access/my own sharpener I did it every other week....one more thing I recognized , as I skated with my fresh 90/75 blackedge steel ( s17 skate ) I felt xtremely good glide .....the eye opener was when I switched to mako M8 w oem steel 90/75 as well ...felt like somebody held my jersey from behind ...and a lot less glide / distance covered !!so I wait for blackedge for makos before using them again ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonesy9020 77 Report post Posted February 19, 2015 The only Blackedge product that is being sold for LS Edge holders is actually LS3 steel coated in blackedge stuff. It'd be the height you like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted February 20, 2015 LS4 may also be available soon as it will come stock on the 1X skate. Another option at this point is to get LS3 with the Blackedge coating.The place I send my blades he does some extra before the coating is applied and it is unreal after. It is really a better option IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
