skates73 3 Report post Posted September 26, 2022 Anyone who's tried both the injection eyelets and traditional eyelets notice the differences in they way they make the boot feel and fit and stay tied tight? Jumping to the Machs with the traditional eyelets (from several Supreme skates in the last bunch of years with inj eyelets) I feel like they just don't feel as tight on my feet and more importantly STAY tight on my feet. I'll try wax laces (prefer not to) but I wonder if the eyelets have an effect on fit and feel. I'm even in a Fit 1 now with the Machs which actually feels nicer and tighter but the boot just doesn't want to stay secure. A few aggressive turns and cuts and start to lose heel lock and need to retie the laces. I'm considering switching to Hyperlites with the injection eyelets. I've never tried Vapors before though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1280 Report post Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 1:40 PM, skates73 said: Anyone who's tried both the injection eyelets and traditional eyelets notice the differences in they way they make the boot feel and fit and stay tied tight? Jumping to the Machs with the traditional eyelets (from several Supreme skates in the last bunch of years with inj eyelets) I feel like they just don't feel as tight on my feet and more importantly STAY tight on my feet. I'll try wax laces (prefer not to) but I wonder if the eyelets have an effect on fit and feel. I'm even in a Fit 1 now with the Machs which actually feels nicer and tighter but the boot just doesn't want to stay secure. A few aggressive turns and cuts and start to lose heel lock and need to retie the laces. I'm considering switching to Hyperlites with the injection eyelets. I've never tried Vapors before though. Lace outside in and the laces will lock. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caveman27 208 Report post Posted September 29, 2022 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skates73 3 Report post Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/28/2022 at 5:11 PM, PBH said: Lace outside in and the laces will lock. Thanks, I'll give it another try. I've tried this years ago but it also felt a bit weird and even less tight than in to out (especially at the heel/ankle). It's pretty straight forward but maybe I did some detail not quite right. I remember it was weird that the lace ABOVE where I was pulling got tighten and tighter than the lace below with this out to in method. Probably doing something just slightly wrong with the method (ie the way I'm pulling etc). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick9 890 Report post Posted October 1, 2022 JMO, before you start changing lacing patterns and looking for new skates, spend the $5 on some Howie's lightly waxed laces. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skates73 3 Report post Posted October 2, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 8:36 AM, stick9 said: JMO, before you start changing lacing patterns and looking for new skates, spend the $5 on some Howie's lightly waxed laces. Thanks, I actually bought some Howies wax laces a couple days ago as another option. I use to hate wax laces because they use to be so waxy and tore my hands up but I was surprised that these particular laces did not feel too waxy. I did try the out to in lacing as well and it's the same thing as before. Just feels a bit less tight/snug, especially at the heel/ankle. I must be doing something wrong because a couple of people I knew that did it, swear out to in much tighter than in to out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenBreeg 493 Report post Posted October 2, 2022 That's because out to in and in to out are the same lacing pattern, just in reverse order. They apply pressure the same way, half the lace is going over the facing, half is going under. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skates73 3 Report post Posted October 3, 2022 20 hours ago, BenBreeg said: That's because out to in and in to out are the same lacing pattern, just in reverse order. They apply pressure the same way, half the lace is going over the facing, half is going under. I find, for me, they apply pressure differently as far as feel. The "in to out" feels tighter and more pressure down through the top of my foot/the tongue. The "out to in" just feels like less pressure on the top of the foot, but kind of holds the sole of the foot to the insole not too badly though still a bit less snug compared to "in to out" and doesn't lock the heel as well. I tried the "out to in" exactly like the guy in this video below (except I go all the way to the top). I noticed it's not just me... when he pulls the laces tight the laces above where he's pulling tightens as well. For me, the laces above gets tighter than the laces below where I pull.... this seems wrong and counterproductive. Just a strange thing that definitely doesn't happen with "in to out" lacing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPPI6N8Vro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psulion22 402 Report post Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 1:27 PM, skates73 said: Thanks, I actually bought some Howies wax laces a couple days ago as another option. I use to hate wax laces because they use to be so waxy and tore my hands up but I was surprised that these particular laces did not feel too waxy. I did try the out to in lacing as well and it's the same thing as before. Just feels a bit less tight/snug, especially at the heel/ankle. I must be doing something wrong because a couple of people I knew that did it, swear out to in much tighter than in to out. I hate waxed laces too. But Elite makes thicker unwaxed laces that give a tighter hold like waxed do (I think they’re called Pro-X7). They’re the only laces I’ll use now. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeydad3 51 Report post Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) I´m quite happy with the following lacing pattern I found somewhere here two years ago. Perfect heellock without overtighten the laces and good forward flex. I´m using Bauer Vapor non waxed laces. https://magentacloud.de/s/7zn7cpSNriWTjaA https://magentacloud.de/s/bY9q9W2ZMGt4rQc https://magentacloud.de/s/zfqCGCNHXw4nfjq https://magentacloud.de/s/MYrAgSxzB5swXgz https://magentacloud.de/s/xMkpL6WggaiR4sq Edited October 7, 2022 by hockeydad3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xstartxtodayx 343 Report post Posted October 8, 2022 17 hours ago, hockeydad3 said: I´m quite happy with the following lacing pattern I found somewhere here two years ago. Perfect heellock without overtighten the laces and good forward flex. I´m using Bauer Vapor non waxed laces. https://magentacloud.de/s/7zn7cpSNriWTjaA https://magentacloud.de/s/bY9q9W2ZMGt4rQc https://magentacloud.de/s/zfqCGCNHXw4nfjq https://magentacloud.de/s/MYrAgSxzB5swXgz https://magentacloud.de/s/xMkpL6WggaiR4sq If you just insert the image location (the links you posted) If you just right click the image in the link you posted, then "copy image location" and paste that location using the "insert image from URL" button on the bottom right you'd be able to post the actual photos in the post instead of links 😉 Here's the first one: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeydad3 51 Report post Posted October 9, 2022 Thank you for the hint. 😉 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skates73 3 Report post Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 6:01 PM, hockeydad3 said: Thank you for the hint. 😉 Thanks, interesting lacing. I've tried that loop thing at the top eyelets before but it did not provide good forward flexion. I will definitely give this a try though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
