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MC, now I have no idea. I don't have Oakley visors, may sound easy and not blocking the lace, I am just lacking in what is involved. I have seen your eyelet in the your photo I believe, but that does not tell the tale. Alan

As you can see I am quoting MC88s post "You installed them through the eyelet or had to remove the eyelet before installing?" If these can be fitted into the eyelet hole would it not make it more narrow? However, I don't know the product. By the way the above quote was written I was confused. I should have sent the reply to mc88. My apologies. Alan

If they are installed in the eyelet you must have little room getting the lace through, if you remove eyelet does it fasten well enough not to compromise the skate? Alan

That's exactly what I have just asked Rob if I can do, somehow the LightSpeed Edge has no pitch or a -1 pitch. From experience I needed that 2 or 3 mm in the heel, lest I am trying a tight reverse maneuver and land on my tailbone and at time hitting the helmet. I will go for the LS2 holder as I am told by my LHS that they are better than the LightSpeed keeping the blade more secure and that's a go. Getting back to the pitch it all comes down to the skaters skeletal build I guess, I can't use the flatness of the Bauer, always needing to bring my blades up in pith to compensate. The hell lift as I had in my last skate was the way to go for me, I could feel the difference in the Bauer I have now as I did not replace the lifts. Alan Sheppard

Once again, Rob from VH has told me that I am correct. If you get a proper fitting your center of gravity is placed over your blades and you should not need any shims. That's what their fitting is all about - to get you over your blades. Then it does not matter about pronation issues. Alan This is what it is all about, thanks for the input. Rob from VH indicated the numbers of skates they have made versus any issues and there were very little! Alan

Thanks for the info, I think that's a good idea for me! Alan

You have no idea how much the Tuuk blades make me feel like I am constantly falling backwards. I had an in store fitting at one point with a fitter that knew what he was doing and placed me on a board with skates on and he said your body style needs a lift in the heel or we grind off your blade. I took the heel lift and felt a great difference immediately. It is too bad that this guy sold his shop to "The Source" and now I can no longer get his advice. I had to travel 2.5 hours each way to get get service, but it was the best I could do from a Halifax NS perspective.

I have found the Tuuk blade to be flat and I have the tendency of falling backwards on 180-360º turns. A number of years ago it was suggested to add 2-3 mm under both heels and what a difference it made giving me some forward pitch. I went away from that with my last Bauer/Tuuk the problem came back. I want to stay with the tuuk holders, but don't want to conture them to death. I don't want the Easton or Graf holders. Before ordering the VH skate I have just again added the extra heel height on my skates to see if I can get the better forward feeling. I won't know until my next game this coming Tuesday. Alan

Sounds good, perhaps I should include the package. I got a hard glancing hit last week that I can still feel, although it would be considered minor, but the bruising was sure to be there as if I took a good hit. Alan

Supposedly if your center of gravity is directly over your blades then you could be over pronated or Supinated and you should still not need to shim your skates. That's why I am saying we are shimming our skates to get us to that COG point. The more we play with inside medial heel shims or outside lateral shims it gets our center of gravity close to that sweet spot!. VH tells me that they have had very very few problems with the remote fitting (unless they have not been told), but they have hardly had any involvement with issues out of 4000 pairs of skates! I need more feed back people as I hope to order next week and I am having the older LS2 holder (LHS indicated a better holder) installed with the ability to put step steel in or the the other more expensive Black Steel. I also want two heel shims to compensate for the low pitch on the Bauer and I may ask for an added 2-3 mm heel lifts to get that forward feeling. VH has been very accommodating to me! Are there any light players out there? I want to add their protection package but I am only 130 lbs and 5'5' tall? Will this be too strong for me, as well I will be ordering the suggested second tongue. Alan

Can anyone get back to me about my last comment about VH Skates and the use of shims? With the fitting remote or not they try and get your center of gravity over your edges so it is not necessary to shim their skates unless the remote fitting was off. Does anyone want to comment as I am ordering mine to do away with any over pronation issues or at least as much as possible. The remote fitting is not as good as being there, but their goal is to get you in the skate molded so you are ready to go. Thanks, Alan Sheppard

Thanks, I think you are right and I did post in another thread, but I went into other areas than just VH so let's leave it there. I believe it was on one of the "shims" (to a VH skate) thread. Alan

I thought I had posted on this thread, but my question is with regards to VH Skates. My understanding is that if you have a good remote fitting your center of gravity is directly over your blades, therefore no need to have any shims at all. By trying to shim the skate medially inside or laterally outside you are just trying to create your weight to be distributed over the blades. With VH they try and put you there with the remote fitting, thus eliminating the need of any shims. I am going to give Rob as much information as I can to get my center of gravity over my blades. I do hope my remote fitting will be close and with that all I will need is a pair of SuperFeet. It would be best if I was there in person and that would guarantee a perfect center of gravity, but I am on the East Coast of Canada. If money were no object, I would fly out and be fitted! Alan

Did I miss something, perhaps? If VH does your remote fitting properly you should have your center of gravity over your blades thus there is no need to have shims. This is why I am going with VH and I hope to get the remote fitting as best I can with the information I give them. It is all about being directly over your edges and you don't need any correction once there. Normally you need shims if you have an over pronation problem or your skates came off the assembly line not quite right causing a pronation problem and not putting you over the center of gravity of that particular skate blade. Alan

I have not been on the site for awhile and not to far up on these post you can see me complaining! I still have pronation problems and the doctors tell me that I do not have flat feet or to any real degree. Yet I went to a foot specialist that does orthotics (I have had them and they work for a while) and he said my arches are fine I don't need orthotics but took out my superfeet that happend to be in my skates at that time and inserted a shaven wedge on the heel and stuffed some dense foam under the arch part of the footpad. I tried to ask has this got anything to do with my sciatica and thus pelvis problems as I think they do, but I did not get a good answer. I tried the skates and my fixed skate was great and had to go back for him to adjust the left superfeet insole. That did not help. Now back to having the blade placed so that my center of gravity is directly over the blade. I decided to do this last year and picked out a pair of Baur skates and then the guy that was going to do the blade alignment said he could not do it as there was not enough room to move the back of the holder. What can I do or which skate can I get so I can make an adjustement. I have gone all this year switching orthotics and placing plastic strips inside the skates near the heel to give me a slant. I can't get properly balanced and find it hard to get footing when I go to pass or when around the net standing nearly still my balance sucks. There have been a few games that I have had all the confidence in the world as my skates were in sync. Do orthoyics wear out that fast or is my pelvis constantly changing? When I am told I have no pronation problem I am standing. But, I have learnded that when I have my skates on (in the house experimenting with insoleses etc) and loosley tied my rear tendon guards fall inwards when I start to squat, meaning I do overpronate when I am plaing hockey with knees bent. I am in Halifax NS and if anyone can give me some help I would really appreciate it. I am 66 and have had this yo-yo of a problem for about 6 years now and I am getting sick of it. I lost almost all of last year, with this year not too much different. I have a few more good years left in me but I want to enjoy them playing hockey. Sorry for the rant, but I am frustrated. Someone please help, I know I can play hockey a hell of a lot better than I do, yet guys say I skate really well, but also see me falling often and they are used to seeing me before I had the problem but don't understand it. Thanks - Alan

Hi, was this message meant for me? --- I had asked this question a number of weeks ago "can purchase a pair of MLX skates, size 5". I think I go on to say I have an issue with over pronation and would have loved to have known that these were available when I purchased my top of the line Bauer skates when MLX skates were available. I just did not know they existed! I am very interested in the sideways moveable holders to help with my pronation issue. But, to answer your question, no I don't have Makos, had the Bauer Vapor X60s when they were top of the line skates a couple of years ago, now I have the Bauer Vapor x90s. -- Alan

John, I have had problems over the years always needing a deep hollow or I could not stand up. People attribute that to my 130lb frame and height of 5'6". Now I am still the same weight, much older and apparently an inch or two shorter! I had a disk problem leading to 2 months of severe right leg sciatica, in 2006, after that I had increased problems with my skating ability. In 2008 I stopped a shot on my problem foot on the inside on my right ankle and dragged myself around for 2 months. After that I was told I had a pronation problem in that foot and orthotics seemed to help the problem, but not as good as I had enjoyed skating before. Last year in November 2012 I had another episode of sciatica and again in the right foot, but soon after my podiatrist indicated that my left foot had been effected by this right footed sciatica? I have gone to Superfeet that has just about fixed the original right foot, but not the left nor did any orthotic. I added some shims inside the boot in the proper place and I am just recently feeling a bit better about my skating. I am writing this as I have wondered about problems associated with my pelvis, O/A in my S1-L5, my sciatica, sliding disks (L4-L5) and bulging disks etc. Also the shot I took off the ankle bone only to find out just this summer my tibia is out of whack, Talotarsus syndrome. Spelling may be wrong. This was the first post I saw that may relate to my problem of pelvis etc. and feel you may know more than is in the post. My pronation seems to be in the state of flux - ever changing. I mentioned in several posts that you cannot buy skates now and shift the blades, there is no room in the heel area that allows for any movement. The skate, MLX, designed by Mike Cunningham had the ability to slide the holders sideways to compensate for pronation, but when the skate was sold to Easton (Mako) they did not bother to include this wonderful feature. If there is any advice you can give me I would appreciate it. Thanks - Alan Sheppard

Great, thanks for your comments and the price is right! Alan

Thanks for your advice, you mean the $60 one? Alan

Found something perhaps better from a figure figure skating site although more expensive at $110. Looks great! See - http://www.iceskateology.com/Skateology/The_Precision_Square.html Alan

I quote another expert opinion while I am still searching. "Looking at some of my usual shopping places I see that most of them sell Grade B which is 0.001"/1" which doesn't strike me as very square at all" Alan

I have done some searching with Google and it is difficult to find a small tri square, carpenter's square or Crown Square. I see some at 3 inches, but that seems too large for use with the blade? This is the second time that I have been told that a small square would work, but I have been unable to find one. If anyone owns one please give me the make etc. I noticed that some good quality squares have specs as follows - 0.01 mm per cm of steel blade, it does not take much for your edge to be out, would this be significant? Perhaps not. Thanks - Alan

I get bent blades from time to time and wonder if it is not from jumping over the boards and landing hard on them? Other than that they may bend if they are struck hard by the puck. Where do you get a "small carpenter's square" cheaply for checking edges? Thanks - Alan