Wicked3Aussie

Not sure what you’re referring to regarding cutouts? Previous versions of top of line Vapor’s and Supremes have a solid outsole (including the Mach from memory). Hyperlites have unfortunately suffered structurally for the need to save weight and contatruction costs.

It’s not just the heel that is a liability, the front portion of the outsole is also hollow unlike previous versions with a solid outsole. It can be done and has been done but the risk is premature and unrepairable breakage. I determined my boots were to expensive to risk and kept them for ice instead.

What type of surface was your rink? It sounds like it may have been tiles.

No problem bro, happy to help!

That’s a shame you’ve had that problem. I have a set of the red ones as well and never had that issue. Regarding the bog down effect it could mean you need a harder wheel. When comparing to a Trickster of identical durometer the Trickster will theoretically be firmer under load. A trickster being single pour will be more rigid versus the dual pour identity, the additional flex of the inner layer on the identity is flexing under your weight and may not be rebounding to your preference, hence you may need a harder wheel. It was similar back in the day with Hornets V Hotshots when the difference between the wheels was 1mm larger inner layer on the hornet creating more rebound.

Glad I could help bro. If you’re keen on Bauer’s the Supreme Machs are suitable for conversion.

I bought a set of Hyperlites to convert and had to make the decision to abort the conversion due to the structural weakness of the Hyperlite skates. My Local conversion specialist made a startling post about this on his company FB page showing why he believes it may not hold up. For someone like myself being big and heavy, I knew it would be a matter of time before I did a hard stop and damaged the flex/silicon at the rear of the outsole. I ended up finding a brand new pair of Supreme 1S for $600 at my local hockey store that they had hidden out back. Much much lighter than the hyperlites and a stronger construction. Images attached of the FB post.

They bogged down for me compared to the originals. Definitely better grip and lasted longer compared to the originals but felt like being in quicksand by comparison. Pure X we’re closer in feel to the recent 82a rink rat World Cup wheel

That’s all well and good as that’s your own personal experience, but the comment in which I replied to states the opposite of your experience. I do both and switch back and forth without issue on regular steel & a regular Kryptonium chassis, it’s just practice.

This is why I’ve never really believed the hype about either Mars chassis as a form of ice replacement. You can rock and shift your weight and get that feel similar to ice but the skate surface and the means in which you contact the skate surface are vastly different. I suspect you developed muscle memory based on that variable and briefly had to relearn your edges. Otherwise for fitness, fun, competitive play they do their job but yeah as an ice replacement maybe not.

I haven’t tried them but recently went through the same thought process and got burned on Bronson Raw bearings. I need to replace my bones Swiss 6 and tried the bronson bearings as a cheaper alternative based on reviews, they ended up going to crap fairly quickly (within 2-3 weeks). Once bitten, twice shy I’ll now be stumping up for the genuine bones when I have the spare cash.

The mechanics are different. For example on inline your weight needs to be over your heel/rear wheels whereas with ice you’d place your weight more to the centre of your holder. The wheels do require you to lean into the edges as you can’t remain upright on them.

I can’t believe they did this, I hope all of the feed back they’re getting online assists them in reconsidering. Otherwise I plan to convert hyperlites.

Can’t remember if I already asked but how did you find the freestyles?

I had a chance to try their 85A Pure X street wheels as well and more of the same. I like that they’re coming out with the options but yeah they’re just not for me going forward.

I made this point a while ago in this thread, the Pure X just don’t cut the mustard compared to the OG pures.

Sure, I’m 6ft 1 and 227lbs. I usually stick with harder wheels preferably 84-85a (I’ve just ordered the new Konixx Outdoor dual pour 85a wheels). I use the XXX tricksters at one rink as its low grip and having a edge and stopping grip are more of a need than outright pace. Everywhere else I use the MPC 85a or the X grip tricksters. I also have 78a revision recoils that are pretty neat too, they’re a great wheel for what they are.

That’s what I found, I hated the Pure-X in comparison. I use MPC Freestyle dual pours as I’ve previously mentioned in this thread, they’re great for me and my last set lasted around 8 or 9 months. I also have Rink Rat Tricksters, they’ve been the go to wheel for most people over here. Tricksters use Magic Speed Urethane like the MPC Freestyles but come in XXX, XX or X. I have XXX and X Tricksters, the XXX are one of my favourites on slipperier rinks.

Possibly due to the Pandemic they may still have too much stock to clear before discounting? I’ m not sure, haven’t looked at FZ quantities either. Either way if they do go on sale you are more or less getting the same skate with the exception of foam, tendon guard and toe box update.

New Missions have gone live on Inline Warehouse and have a new insight video https://www.inlinewarehouse.com/Mission_Roller_Hockey_Skates/catpage-MISSSKATES.html

Glad to hear they’re working for you. I just bought my second set with the originals lasting from May - Feb. I love these wheels so much, just so fast and reliable

I last heard March

I appreciate your promises and experiences with Nick but honestly they’re irrelevant. They aren’t paid marketing, if anything it’s discrediting him as he’s clearly said one thing in that insight video which I believe correlates with what I’m feeling from these wheels or the complete opposite to you in private. No disrespect but he could’ve just told you what you wanted to hear with these wheels, obviously not being there I don’t know the context of the conversations. Im happy to agree to disagree but I’m standing by my experience that they’re a slower wheel due to the differences mentioned by Nick in that video. To be honest this is probably the most exciting topic in here in a while. lol

That’s not IW marketing though, that’s him specifically saying that they used a new formula with intention of replicating the feel of the originals while increasing durability and grip. He goes on to claim that they are more rigid and that the rigidity is going to give more speed and give that stiffer wheel feel without having that stiffer wheel traction if you’re not heavy enough you wouldn’t get enough of. Exactly my point, I’m a heavier guy that is still one of the fastest at the rink and this particular change has made the newer wheel much slower under my weight/power. My acceleration is a big part of my game. If anything they’re quicker on the wood. the downside to that surface is it is harder on wheels than tiles or concrete. Man I’m the first to complain as well, particularly if my outright pace is effected and these wheels just don’t perform as well for me. The only other anecdotal evidence I can offer is everyone on the white pures at the rink have moved back to rink rat for the same reason.

This is the insight video where Nick from Konixx claims that Pure-x is a completely new formula with the new formula made specifically for this wheel. You can tell from feel though that there’s a difference, I experienced better grip, longevity but with doughiness (They remind me of the recent 82a World Cup) I play on smooth concrete and wood. Due to border closures unable to test MPCs on tiles, with that said they work just as well on concrete and wood, usually I have one set for each. I Don’t mind the tricksters and have used the revisions that came on both my 1XRs. They’re both useless on the wood but work okay on the concrete. I keep all those as a back up. Addictions I haven’t bothered with since my CA9 RPDs, not a fan of the narrow profile and to me the quality dropped from the initial release when they were considered the best wheel on the market.