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Lou- It would help if you could show what you mean. I'm picturing that you just put two washers between the bolt and the t nut? But I don't see how that helps the t nut not spin around...Seems like it's needed because of how you said the outsole is so thin, the bottom of the t nut pokes through.

The manual says you should take them apart every so often to clean. What is the best stuff to use for cleaning Per? I use bearing fluid cleaner on my bearings maybe every month or so... But I don't have enough to spar to use on the chassis, too.

@ Mikewhy They definitely do. I compared my Vapors on Marsblades to my Mako's and my Vapors sat much higher up. So much so that after a few ice games, when I get back on the roller rink, it takes me like 10-15mins to adjust back to the height again. It's fairly aggressive I'd say, on par with the aggressive angle on my Mako's. And Lou, how easy was it to keep the T nut's from spinning in the M8's? I'm thinking of picking up a used pair for roller (can't stand being in anything but my Mako's now) but I'm definitely concerned that those damn t nuts will just spin around endlessly like a few did on my Vapors.

I just mounted marsblade onto my Vapors. Came from a HiLo set up on a pair of Mission AC4. Performance is MUCH better. Tighter turns, more agile, etc. Plus, if you play on ice often, it makes going back on to ice much easier.

Got back on the ice last night. MUCH easier transition than before. I'll still say.. Because I'm on Mako's and I believe the steel is a little bit more rounded at the toe and heel, that I felt like I was on more of a "round" skating surface, but overall, it wasn't too tough to get back into it again. My "running cross over's" were off for a little bit because adjusting back to being on edges took a bit longer than anything else. Overall, had an hour skate, and by the last bit of it, felt totally normal again. Recommend Marsblade for anybody who plays ice full time, and wants to use roller hockey as off ice training. Great product (so far).

OK good to know I'm not the only one who experiences this. And I totally agree, I noticed especially when skating backwards, if I really got into that deep knee bend, athletic stance.. I was much more balanced and stable. My brain is just used to being on that roller surface with the long flat wheel base, as opposed to this now. Will let you know how it goes! First ice game of spring/summer session is in a few weeks.

Skated on the Marsblade chassis last night. Wow, this is going to take some getting used to!! I'm not used to being in such an aggressive stance while skating on a hard surface. Felt like I was falling over my toes the whole time. Started feeling myself getting used to it, but I'll definitely need a few more hours of skating to feel comfortable on it. I think though this will be a good thing for me, I can tell this will probably make the transition back to ice much easier. Definitely no need for a shim to make them feel like my Mako's, haha.

MThockeydad- I may have to end up doing that as well, a few of the back ones seem to stick up a bit. But, I should be finishing up the mounting this weekend! However, we are getting snow here today into tomorrow...So I won't be able to take them outside for a spin :(

Oh yes, haha, I ordered 100 of them. I figured I'd do my Mako's later on once I buy the Mako III/IV or whatever comes out in a few years from Easton. I will try that though, thank you. Did you have to hammer them in a little bit or anything so the t nut wasn't sticking up too far? I'm assuming if they stick up any, you would feel that through a footbed still.

Awesome to hear, I would buy one. Going well, I have one about 90% installed on a skate, and the other one is hopefully going on tonight with out any problems. Just having an issue with my T Nuts spinning around while I screw the bolt into the T nut on a few of the places.

I use an electric screw driver to "drill" the screw into the T nut, yes I know they are threaded to match. I got #6-32 nuts and screws, that is not the issue. I suspect they are spinning because the left over cut prong part, just isn't gripping the sole of the skate.

Per, Just wondering, but is there any plans for Marsblade to be made from any metal material in the future? Aluminum, Magnessium, etc?

I'm doing them on my Bauers, so it has that fabric. Weird because the front of the boot was fine, none of the t nuts spun around, but for some reason, almost all the ones in the rear are. I even tried holding the nut in place with pliers while I drilled but then instead of spinning, it just rose upward with the pressure from the screw coming up. I mean, super gluing them in and making them in for good is probably okay... I mean... I shouldn't need to replace t nuts ever again, regardless of chassis or holders being swapped back in. But I'll try bending the corners in again a little more, or holding them in again with pliers. If that doesn't work.... might have to glue them in. Should be finishing up skate #2 tonight, although I'm having a hard time getting the very front 2 t nuts in near the toe box. Somehow got lucky and got the left boot ones in fairly fast... Struggled with the right ones for like 15 minutes before I gave up.

Having a problem with some of the t nuts spinning around when I go to drill in the screws. I tried to use pliers to make the cut off prong a bit sharper, but that didn't seem to help. It could be I drilled a few of the holes too big... but either way I may try to put some super glue on the t nut to see if that will hold them in place. Otherwise, I may only end up having 4 of the 6 holes in the chassis screwed down tightly/properly. Any advice?

Started the conversion yesterday. Had my rivets removed by a pro shop. Put my Marsblade chassis on my skate where I think it should go, anddddddd only one hole per skate from my old holder lines up, haha. So I marked out about 12 new holes, and drilled. Used a 5/32 drill bit first, just in case for whatever reason the 3/16 was too big. Turns out 5/32 is definitely too small for #6 T Nuts to fit into, as I was unable to pull one into the hole (or push it in for that matter). So tonight I'll be drilling out those holes again with the larger bit, and hopefully getting one skate mounted up. I just hope I measured and placed all the holes correctly and that everything will be balanced properly.

Yeah, I watched a similar video on youtube where a guy goes over how to do this in detail on his ccm skates. He suggested "setting" the t nut into the boot using a 1'' long screw first. I'm in New London county.

Lou- Thanks for calling me out in your vid a bit ;) haha. I would definitely appreciate if you made a video detailing how you lined everything up, drilled out your holes, etc. If you could use the marsblade as an example, that would be awesome. If not, that's okay I'm sure I'd figure it out if I had to drill more/less holes.

How long should I expect shipping to be to the US? It takes 5-12 business days. I'll be ordering Thursday or so.

Per, Thanks for the info. Would you advise not going with a Hi-Lo wheel set up? I know this is not really typical for an ice hockey skate, and I feel like this was only done on solid chassis to try and give the feeling over being over one's toes as on ice. With the rocker from the Marsblade, could I use all 76mm wheels? ie, did you design this chassis for all 4 wheels being the same size, or just 1 smaller wheel in the front, etc? Thank you for your support.

Thanks Per!! It did. I'll be putting the chassis on my Vapors, and likely going to add a rear shim, due to the fact I will be going with a Hi-Lo set up (76-76-80-80) for my wheels. (Unless you recommend not doing this) I assume Tnut and bolt set up will be safe to use as well?

Per, Could you tell me what the "pitch" of the Marsblade chassis is? I skate in a pair of Easton Mako's which has a +3 pitch overall. I'd like to get my Marsblade chassis to feel as close to the pitch angle as I can. Would a shim be able to me used here if need be?

@iammerson - I own them as well. My 2nd toe hits the toe cap (it's long) and for me, I am fine with that. I have a pair of roller hockey skates where none of my toes really touch, and it drives me nuts. For me, I like having a little bit of contact with the front... It's all personal preference. It's impossible for us to tell the OP which size is right for him. Only he can figure that out. My advice was just simply that if the skate can indeed be stretched as a normal skate can, than if I was between a 6 and 6.5, I'd go with the 6 and stretch it. But that is just what I would personally do. And OP I have never tried on original Makos, but I tried on M8's and M II's, and they fit exactly the same (to me).

Agreed 100%. However, I'd be more liable to think the reason they might not stretch at all/very well is having a non traditional design, ie not a dedicated outsole. My Vapors with a carbon fiber outsole stretched okay, then again, it's a totally different skate and design. Why not just call up Easton and ask? Jimmy or JR might not respond to this thread right away unless notified.

Yeah confirming is always a good idea, I just don't see why they wouldn't be considering how moldable they are otherwise. On the off chance they aren't able to be stretched, then I may avoid the skate totally. There's nothing worse than having a cramped foot, other than having a skate that's a bit too big and trying to make up for it using thicker socks, etc.

To the guy struggling with fit size. Say you are a bit loose in the 6.5, but very snug in the 6. Here's my advice: Go with the 6's. 1) Mako's can be heated up multiple times. So far I've baked my Mako II's 3 times, and spot heated them maybe 12-15 more additional times to work out minor kinks (I have some pointy feet bones, etc) 2) As long as you aren't pressed for overall skate volume, the boot can also be stretched a bit. It sounds like you're really a 6.25. I would grab the 6's and go for a public skate. Skate as hard as you can while out there to get a good feel for them, and wear them around the house for a few hours. Walk around in them, etc. If after about 4-6 hours, you still feel really cramped, then bring them to the shop and tell them to give you a a little stretch in the boot. This may reduce volume a bit in some spots, so just be aware of that. Luckily, even if it does, you can spot heat and press out any problem areas. And no the M8 and MII do not fit differently, I tried both on. I think the M8 were slightly less stiff feeling, and thus a tad more comfortable. I went with the MII though as they are a bit lighter, and I felt overall construction just... Seemed better to me.