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That would be awesome @malcb33 I'd be happy with the Kreps, if only it were a little lower. If taking the E4/PM9 as the 5-lie standard, the Kreps isn't quite as low, even in its heel low lie area. I've noticed True and STX are labeling their Kreps as 5.5's. That seems more spot on. When I compared them in a shop to E4's and E6's, they were much closer to E6's, almost the same shape overall except for a pointier toe. I've seen some Kovalchuk pros on prostockhockey that look a lot like the old Warrior Smyth, which was rumored to be his 1/2" legal curve from early in his NHL days. No doubt he's also been using Krepsified versions of his pattern, but has he actually been using standard Kreps too?
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I took that image and overlaid its Kovalchuk pro (green) with the Gionta and took another Kovalchuk pro (blue) and overlaid it with the original Kovalchuk pro. It does seem to match @malcb33's description. The blue Kovalchuk seems closer to the variant being floated as the possible BASE pattern. It looks to me like it's essentially the same blade face with just a different toe shape and toe height. It's a bit pixelated due to resizing to match the two different images, especially sensitive to longer, flatter curves, but it still gets the point across. This is exactly why I'd love the Kovalchuk side by side with a PM9. The difference is slight, but it may just be enough that it turns me off from the pattern. The closed toe is a bonus for me. E28 is a good alternative to my ideal curve, maybe not quite as good an alternative as the Kovy. It might just do the trick.
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No, "Successor to the legendary 703 + 704..." so slim and shallow. Source: http://www.grafskates.ch/skates/grafskates-hockey/ultra/ultra-f-60/
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There's been some discussion of the Kovalchuk pro in this thread but little is known about its specs beyond a few broad suggestions: big toe curve, rockered toe for heel-up snap shots, and a low lie. I'm all for supporting this pattern into production if its lie is in fact lower than most of the other stuff out there. Does anyone have some Kovalchuk pros by chance? If you do and wouldn't mind supplying some more info for the community interested in its retail availability, please help those of us out who are hoping it'll check the right boxes. I want to vote for Kovalchuk, but I want to know exactly how it stands first.
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Quote doesn't seem to be working, but the part about trying larger hollows: even some of an area's better local shops simply don't get it and treat you like a moron for asking for shallower hollows. FBV is a little more accessible maybe.
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Some have.
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@PFraser do you have room in your toe box, especially above the toes? It sounds like maybe POWERFOOT inserts might help. Toe pain is something they're designed to alleviate. On the one hand, Makos have much less height in the toe box than other boots, on the other, the range of motion inherent to the Mako line might be activating your feet in ways they're not used to and a little more support to snug in nicely might help. I'm not an expert on Makos, so it's just a bricolage of bits I've observed scattered across MSH. Hope someone or something can help definitively.
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I haven't used the BC10. I was intrigued by it until seeing the video comparing it to the Easton E4. For me, the E4 is just about perfect. Any higher and I lose a lot of feel for the puck and I can't really operate without looking at it. I do have an E4 here I can upload comparison shots with between the Kovalevs, Leinos and Gionta I have as well. But that'll have to wait until at least next week as I'm hella busy at the moment. I originally got excited about Kovalev's pattern from reading about it and hearing it described as roughly a 5, since E4's were pretty much the only retail blade I could find that worked growing up, and that especially if I added a little toe curve to them. But, when I finally got my hands on a few, I realized they play more like 6's for me. I didn't think the rocker would matter as I like to handle the puck on the heel of the E4, with the toe pointed up, but the feeling of the Kovalev pro is quite a bit different: with a much shorter blade height at the heel, I feel like there isn't as much feedback from the puck when it's on the blade at that point. Although the pattern didn't work out for me as I had hoped, there are those who have found it and love it, so maybe you will too.
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The Kovalevs I have play more like 5.25 to 5.5--slightly higher than the Warrior Gionta. The heel starts low, but it swoops up quick. A quarter to a third of the way from the heel to the toe, it's already above 5-5.25. The Leinos I have play lower, like 4.5. That pattern's also more open. What ever happened to the Kovalchuk pro curve? There was a video with Ronning talking about that one a couple of years back. I'd be into that if it got developed.
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They also do a lot of figure skate sales at Westside, right? It could be that overlap leads them to buy into the Graf philosophy.
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Or maybe on account of CETA, as Switzerland is part of the EU's single market, trade with Canada will soon be much more seamless than with the rest of North America--though I imagine that means mostly the US and not the other countries to the south.
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Off-topic, but man, outside edge landing leg at the end of that video. Nice shot of good form. Edit: Forgot I had a point on topic as well...added below. Another time that part of the blade gets used is in toe-pick-and-carve situations (demonstrated by Cruikshank and Fedorov). I found the local shop didn't round off the toe, so when I'd go to do that, the pointed toe would dig in like a rudder and steer me away from where I was intending to go.
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Great! Now please bring on a lower lie BC28! (Assuming it's a straight clone of the E28).- 114 replies
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Mine were the later 3000's, with the green color accents and the 5000's were the top of the line. I'm not sure if it had that tongue design still.
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My first two pairs of skates were 1997 Bauer Supreme 3000's and 5000's. I can't remember too well what the tongues were like--did they still have the channel then or was it prior to that?
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Have you tried a Forsberg pad? I developed sudden lace bite a while back and discovered that the irritation was because of how much the tendons bulge out when they contract to lift the foot, which happens when you forward flex in a skate. I just cut a 3/8" channel down the middle of the heel of an old footbed I wasn't using anymore and it was perfect. I couldn't tell it was in there, but the pain was completely gone. I have no idea why tongues aren't built with that channel to begin with, allowing the tendons to flex without having to face the majority of the brunt of the pressure from the laces over the tongue. If the volume is borderline for you, maybe altering the tongue would be sufficient for you to continue in your VH's. Here's a link to pictures of the pad I made, in case you want to try something similar: http://s284.photobucket.com/user/prm776/library/?sort=3&page=1
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Still taping the tendon guards of course :)
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Aha, but it's not visible from the photo that those are any particular brand of skates. That one you'd have to know. Also, I said Tierney, but the Easton stick means that's probably wrong and it was Wingels instead.
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I only see 4 there: Tierney, Dillon, Pavelski, and Karlsson. Where's the 5th?
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The blades would look great with the BASE logo on the sides, like on blades back in the golden days of two piece sticks, similar to what True has on theirs.- 114 replies
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The Flying Blood Oranges.
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Good to hear. I have a couple Malkin Eastons, so I was going off of that. I haven't compared the Warrior Gionta to the Base Malkin. The Easton Malkin to Warrior Gionta differences are more slight: the lie and rocker shapes are almost exactly the same, the Malkin curve is bit more pronounced instead of smoothed out across a larger area and the blade is a bit taller as well as a bit longer. Otherwise, they're pretty readily interchangeable.
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The Malkin pro is incredibly close to the Gionta. You should try that.
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Indeed, the PM9 has an underrated smooth rocker. I love that pattern. If only it were curved like the Iginla or hybridized with that curve, but kept the same in blade face and lie, that would be perfection for me.
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They're very different: _09 pattern curve: heel lie: 5 toe: round length: average/short height: roughly consistent from heel to toe _10 pattern curve: mid-toe lie: 6 toe: square length: long height: shorter at the heel and taller at the toe
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