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Is it much different from the top edge on the MLX? I have that issue with rubbing if I mold them close to the leg. If I skip the top eyelet instead, it feels sloppier. That's where having the right size would help though.
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Thanks for the recipe :) This is what I've been mulling over in my mind (original VH boot on the left, and a slightly lower cut version with the top two eyelets averaged and slightly more forward on the right): Now that I can see it, maybe it's a bit too high, by a couple of millimeters or so.
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I was thinking exactly the same--the 55 Flex eyelets looked a bit far forward to my intuition. Depth in the MLX is hard for me to guage, because I'm in an 11 and I really should have gotten a 10. That's the drawback of buying online and only going off of a single length measurement fit chart. I was squarely in their range for an 11, but I'm swimming in the boots in the whole forefoot. Replacing the stock MLX tongue with a 703 tongue helped, but I'm toying with the idea of just bailing again and going back to some Graf 604's that just might fit perfect after reestablishing what size I should have...so much tinkering at the moment.
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I haven't looked into it. I think getting it over here would be a pain anyway, due to extra shipping and potentially customs cost, which is usually our 25% VAT on both the retail price of the item and the shipping. If I really want it, it might be just as beneficial to try and make one the way I want it. I have a friend who makes handcraft quality leather wallets, so I could get solid help on figuring out a sturdy solution if necessary. Edit: forgot I came back here to post another VH pro sighting: Dmitry Megalinsky, who used to be a Graf guy of course. I don't really like the white chunks. Looks like a clunky 50's two-tone shoe. I guess I think it could look good if they inverted the chromed logo and swoosing rectangles piece at the top of the boot, kind of like Graf's black print on white leather instead of embossed gold or silver on black leather.
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I've thought about 55-flex, and am definitely intrigued. It just sounds like the company has potentially folded from what I've read of people on here trying to get support, replacements, or even just place new orders and never hearing anything back from 55-Flex.
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Cool, good to hear. I was just thinking last night of how I wish my MLX were slightly lower cut and it reminded me of your new boots. I can't get great forward flex while also lacing the top eyelet, and the top of the boot digs into my right leg a bit, enough to potentially get an abrasion and a bump eventually. I wish the top two eyelets were merged, so there'd be one less overall. I also wish the merged eyelet were a tiny bit forward of the eyelet below. I love the extra little space between the top eyelet and the second eyelet on Graf. It gives good stability with great range of motion. I can try to whip up a photoshop version of what I mean. Edit: I mean, good to hear it's working out ok for you, even with the sad fact that it finished in an awkward way.
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How is it going with your eyelet extensions? I keep thinking about that strange solution they ended up with for your boots.
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I've never tried a pair of Makos but I have followed this thread since its inception, and it sounds like you may be experiencing classic Mako bumps. It's an issue a lot of people had with the first generation Makos chafing their ankles along the boots' edges. It sounds like you're experiencing the same, only maybe more on the back of your leg than on the side where others typically seemed to be affected. In any case, a lot of people found some sort of padded wrapping to protect and rehabilitate irritated areas and protect against future irritations. If that sounds similar to what you're experiencing, I'm sure you can find some specific products recommended for addressing the discomfort. Also, you may want to avoid baking the boots again or over doing the spot reheats on the upper part of the boot, as the glue tended to run out of the padding around the top on the original model, which made the mako bumps even worse. Both the Mako bump area and the shell's shearing or shredding were addressed in the development of the Mako II. Hope that might help.
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Another argument against the price factor is the heavier and softer lower end models which still have the Mako ideas at lower prices.
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Here I think it's another disagreement of shades based on your particularism versus my universalism
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True, but isn't that why Easton offered the 30-day satisfaction guarantee on the Mako?
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Yet another former Graf wearer, Dan O'Rourke.
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That's how it was on the Past-Vert Mission boots, with more of a ( ) shaped wrap than | | ... it also looks like that might be the wrap shape (tighter on the top and the bottom) of Cruikshank's prototype boots: there's definitely more wrap at the bottom--the first eyelets above the toe cap almost touch each other. On my Missions, this felt amazing. But those weren't stiff at all at the top. They were also higher cut than a VH boot, so if the Missions had been stiff, I think it would have been too much. I don't really know how the differences in wrap shape affect one's skating.
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It'll be great to see how your top eyelets line up malcb33. Cruikshank's look very close to the past-vert alignment. But if anything, the heel looks almost as aggressively pitched on both the MLX and VH as on the Cruikshank special. I love that about my MLX. Just the top-front could be a little more aggressive. I also like how the boot's upper edge cuts downwards, just like Fedorov's White Nike's where he had the top eyelet removed. I think that would improve the ankle abrasions that I get when I form them closer to my ankle at the top.
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I've only ever seen it in "Art of Speed: Journey to the Easton Mako Skate," one of Easton's Mako promotional videos: You can see it from many angles in the video starting at that point, 1:41. I find it helpful to use the slow-motion afforded by the HTML5 video to analyze it more thoroughly, too :)
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You had my like already there! I loved that boot cut from Mission as well. I've been curious about the positioning of the eyelets from that and from seeing Cruikshank's OG Van Horne prototype boots. I'm as happy with my MLX for their forward angle as I've ever been in any ice boot. My only issue is the quarters come up a bit too high for good ankle rotation. I've considered, if I can eventually afford customs, asking for a slightly lower cut, but without altering the position of the eyelets. I found I could get really good forward positioning with the standard MLX eyelets after swapping out the stock tongue with a Graf 703 tongue. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the setup :)
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Cool to see you're trying a different angle for the top 3 eyelets. How did you arrive at those values (8, 6, and 4 mm) forward from normal? Did you consider having the heel more aggressively pitched forward as well? What do you mean full foam on the inside of the tendon guard? Is it the original VH tendon guard, or the new one with added foam for padding? Can't wait to get your impressions of the boots with the requests that you made.
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These also look like 2000s, and possibly still 322's because I imagine 306 would look really short on his boots, but the size is really only a guess.
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Mike Cvik
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Kulikov also had CXN's on his VH, but I don't think he had a Mako transition period before that setup. Along with Pirri, Quinten Howden wears them. I was wondering if Bjugstad might make the switch. Now let's see how long it lasts.
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I think I get it. Practice can be intense, but it's also always so known. Games are less so (maybe that's not really the case as much for a veteran like Steen, but that's beyond my ability/experience to imagine), and that degree of uncertainty requires more cognitive resources which makes the demand for the utmost automatic response/reaction all the more intense. If your equipment doesn't do what you expect it to do, it could much more readily show up in a game situation than in a practice or even a number of practices. I think quite a few guys are just so used to a Bauer-like boot that they are more relaxed and automatic performing in it, even if it might be less comfortable, less responsive, etc.
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Went back to Bauer already.
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Kulikov had it on some of his pairs. Maybe it just went unnoticed.
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Which VH tongue are you using? Is it the standard looking one with felt beyond the edge of the leather middle? For the thinner tongues, are they the slim ones seen in this video?
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Oleg Znarok
