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Really have you tried it? Ever player I have used it with has noticed a difference but one skating coach. And that person even said with the steel they had (z-channel) that may be the reason and I agree. Thats from AAA bantam kids to some top NHL players. All said they noticed it after they came off the ice and we didnt tell them it was on the skates before hand they thought I had just done the skates in a different way.

I want to chime in here but have no idea where to start. There is so much bad information being given out. JR whats going on???LOL Most skate profiling is actually very logical and straightforward. 1. you never want to be on your heels 2. there is not need EVER to round off the toe and heel.EVER...slight blend yes round off NO!!!!!! 3. Your profile comes from what you do with the center of the blade. JR Chadd feel free to agree to disagree here. Been away for a while working with players this summer but am back for questions on this subject!

It's funny I work in the area where the guy that sells the machines is in Toronto and I haven't heard a peep about it. Seeing as its juts as hard to get a guy doing the FBV and a regular hollow level I have to guess if you have a bent blade I can seeing this being like an FBV and making it worse.... Very confused now........The channels look deep?? How can that be good for a guy that is used to 1 inch??? Sorry it took me long enough to get on the FBV band wagon and knowing the guy at Pro Sharp here..(Great Guy) ....but a little lost. Last time we talked he was going to make a wheel like FBV? Also there just testing it with players no formal tests done like with FBV?

No need to worry the US trainer has the FBV.

Yah sorry i have to disagree...... And the oops can happen easily if someone goes to put on a new wheel and forgets to change the fbv diamond and leaves say a 100/75.

[ If someone butchers a skate so badly that you can't skate on an FBV sharpening, you would have the same problem with ROH. I don't think anyone should be charging more for it, but that's their business. Much of the technology has been used in machining and manufacturing, but what does that to do with skate sharpening or the validity of the end result? The concept that created the spinner is unrelated to the FBV. Other than the fact that the spinner allowed the FBV to come into existence. Chadd....how can you say they shouldn't charge anymore? That makes no sense an FBV spinner is upwards of 4 times the price of a regular diamond? All you need is one oops from a good employee never mind a younger one and there goes 80 plus dollars not 12 or 20? How can you possibly say you cant charge anymore? If doing an FBV properly and most importantly for the first time it takes longer to make sure the edges are good? It has been said in mainstream media about it being the same price and i totally disagree. I dont think 10 is right but 7 is not out of line at all.

Another possible issue might be a bent blade??? That would cause this as well........sorry didnt see just one skate!

The store you went to does have the 100/50 all of them do. As for the washing out sometimes you get that when your profile needs to be adjusted. This was brought up when Cory Stillman first tried it. he had a similar feeling and once the profile was adjusted it was right back to feeling like it did with a reg ROH except with the better glide.

Ok lets make sense of what this guy is saying..... "No...I've never heard of anyone who likes it...I figure in 5 years it won't even be around anymore" Ok first part.....Hummm I guess Cory Stillman isn't anyone? As for John Q Public the jury is still out but overall there are more that like it than don't so far. As for the second part. Well even if you just did regular hollows it still saves on wheel and dressing time so that sort of blows that theory. Well you might say well I like it a little inside the half line...guess what every machine is calibrated differently...however an Spinner dressing is pretty damn close from one machine to the next so if you wanted standard ROH either the BS or the BM spinner style systems will dress better and faster.

Just had to make a fast comment on here. I have been saying since page one this was a great idea......some did believe some werent to keen...then there was the people that have stores around the stores I work with that said it was terrible and would never fly and now I see 5 of them on the Blackstone sight. Wow to funny.

It all depends on who is doing the FBV there are a few tricks to really getting a solid hollow and making it a noticeable difference! try going back to the FBV .............see if you notice then! Who do you recommend at Oakville National Sports? I keep getting new/different people and hate not knowing if they are doing it right.... Starting this week there is a new system being used and only certain staff allowed to sharpen and that goes for all stores. Anyone doing the sharpening will be certified on this new system. If you look at the new flyer coming Thursday you will see all about it. Dave and Matt run that Pro shop though and are the main 2 guys!

Getting between 2 to 6 months depending on the staff using it!

It all depends on who is doing the FBV there are a few tricks to really getting a solid hollow and making it a noticeable difference! try going back to the FBV .............see if you notice then!

With either a Tri-lite holder or a Blademaster holder with the Tri feature the original Max Edge Holder it can be done.

Are you serious or being facetious? Don't mean to be argumentative, I just can't tell over the internet. If you are being serious thats fantastic, I wish all shops provided their customers with that kind of attention to detail. Jimmy lets be real here.....if the holder isnt set up to be level and centered it would be off on edges if it was a Regular holllow or FBV? I have heard the same argument but its simple common sense if its off its if if you can line it up its lined up. Of course you can try and make better holders and such to keep the average blade straight in the holder however we all know that blade thickness can vary and blades can be bent.

Yup, we've had the Stealths since day one. As far as I know, all three GTA locations have the FBV spinners. Hummm wonder who's idea that was to put them in there? Haha... not mine! But I'm glad someone somewhere came up with the idea. :D your welcome.....

Yup, we've had the Stealths since day one. As far as I know, all three GTA locations have the FBV spinners. Hummm wonder who's idea that was to put them in there?

I was on the ice twice today, once for a 3-hour shinny session in the morning (no flood), and then ran a 2-hour hockey camp in the afternoon without stepping off the ice once. My steel still feels freshly sharpened. Were are you getting your FBV done?

I think Stl as more guys are on it there I believe...LOL I have no idea really..I will ask when out here this week!

Really....damn missed that part......that was a great game!

I had a US customer in today telling me that he knew the guys at BU and they just started using it and did so for the Frozen Four Championship. Then double checked with Steve......and thats a big 10-4! Love to know what the guys were all using!

Just a slight correction. "Just remember that Superfeet don't properly support everyone's foot." Support and fit are 2 different things. They will support anyone's foot if fitted properly. However you are correct in saying some may not like the support and may need custom orthodics or in some cases nothing but the stock insole.

I would recommend she use the 90/50 for the figures...if the store you go to normally doesnt have it let me know and I can meet you there!

Depends on how you skate and how much you let your edges degrade with a traditional sharpening. I am having a hard time with all these people needing them to be sharpened so much I am on for 2 hours a min of 2 times a week and have sharpened mine 2 times since January? Now my players need it more often as they are knocking skates against objects and they are playing JR A but for the average guy I cant see they need to be done so often?

Personally I have been trained on the ME system and I would love to be able to use it in my stores but cant. If I was an ME dealer I would use both the FBV and the ME system and I think it would be even better than anything out there. Before FBV the finish and the system used with ME was pretty much the best "PROGRAM" out there IMO. How does it differ from the profiling that I get from No Icing? I'm just trying to get educated. Is there a place I can find that explains the difference between ME and what I am using now, which is No Icing combo? My son really has no issues at all with that part, but I am really interested in the difference bewteen the two. Thanks for your information, trainer, I appreciate it. I looked on the ME site itself it is very limited on info. I cant answer that as I dont know No Icings form of profiling and how they do it!