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Sniper9
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Can u send me a pm regarding what you mean exactly when repairing with the tape. I am picturing the below link, but in case you had a diff method http://blogs.sparxhockey.com/stop-the-clicking-fix-your-loose-steel-with-this-hockey-hack
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Maybe. But I got these holders on before my steel came in. And the frustrating part is that one set of steel may click while the other won't and vice versa. So really, that may help with your first set of steel but not future ones. At the end of the day, it is just too inconsistent, and it gets old returning holder after holder. I play 1-2x a week max during the winter season and 1x a week tops during the summer, so this issue likely won't even be an problem for the life of my steel. My last ls3 steel lasted me a good 4 years and they still have a lot of sharpening in them and they were profiled twice. So even if I get a good 2-3 years out of this holder, I'd be happy, but will be switching out to the ls2 (I have a spare new set), or look at whatever new options are available at that time.
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So basically the holders are hit or miss.... And when it's a miss your Sol.
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You may be right that we, and I may be making a bigger deal than it really is. But it's in my head now and it's going to bug me now that I know it's there or it will eventually happen. If it doesn't get worse over time that's fine, but if it does it means it's something I'll have to constantly monitor which is mentally exhausting. I just like the piece of mind with the ls2 holder. I had them.on my one100 for the 7 years I had the skates. No issues at all. Went through two sets of steel and they are still super snug. With all the diff companies making steel these days, there may also be some play in ls2 holders though, who knows. I've only ever used ls2 and ls3 steel for my ls2 holders. For my edge I've used step, tydan and ls3. Step was the loosest, tydan was pretty snug but some minor clicking, and ls3 was pretty good overall. So it could be the steel tolerance, or the holder, or both. And just that the edge has a more sensitive tolerance because of it's locking mechanism being plastic components vs a nut and bolt that can be adjusted in the ls2.
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Yes it is. What do u mean use the furniture felt. I know there's the tape trick to reduce wiggle room but I am not going to use that until there's a more noticeable play. Right now it's very minimal just enough to make a click. I think even the thickness of Scotch tape would make it really difficult to install the steel. That's how small of a tolerance it takes to be off for the edge holder to cause issues, which is why I'm not a fan at all. The trigger lock holds the blade in place to a certain degree but will never be as firm as s bolt and nut. I think having a very thin layer of rubber or silicon in the holder channels to hug the blade would be a good idea potentially, unless it really absorbs energy transfer of the skaters. This way though, it would adapt to the minor size tolerance differences alot better from holder to holder/steel to steel Aesthetically the edge holders are the best, imo, but reliability wise, not so much. I wish they made a refined ls2 holder that had the updated body lines of the edge. Step/graf holders have the brilliant idea of having the bolt on the outside, but they aren't the best looking.
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What?
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I'm glad someone feels the same way. Most people I talk to say "mines tight and not loose" without ever even looking at their holders, let alone not even knowing what hollow their skates are sharpened at. But I'm also ocd for certain things.... 😋
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I had that setup but the steel didn't fit the holders that great. It was slightly on the looser side and caused some clicking and movement. But looking back now i don't think it's so much of a step issue than the edge holder issue in general. The edge holders aren't that consistent in how steel fits in them. I got brand new holders and tydan steel and these are really snug but still has some minor clicking and play in one of them. Something most people probably won't even notice, and probably something that won't even affect performance, but for me now it's in my head. I've even tried ls3 steel and noticed they don't fit consistently. That is why I'm opting to switch back to ls2 holders once the tydan steel wears down. I might stick with the edge holders if the issue I have doesn't get worse and doesn't seem to affect performance, but there's something about a nut and bolt securing the blade that gives me the peace of mind.
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So I had my black edge holders swapped out and replaced them with new white ones. Ordered a set of tydan steel. The fit is Def snugger but there is still some movement up and down when I put my body weight into the skates. Like stepping down on the toes and heel I can feel it move in a hair if I put my fingers on the steel. I can't actually feel it with my feet, only when my fingers are touching the steel and holders. Not a big deal as I'm sure it actually occurs more often than not in other holders as well. I just scrutinize it more now bc it's in my head. I did notice though that the very last inch or two of the blade at the heel of the left skate has an ever so slight side to side play, which causes it to click lightly when I push it with my fingers. Again none of this is probably even an issue on the ice especially if it doesn't get worse, but it's just annoying, and again bc it's in my head now. So I've decided that I'll keep the setup until the tydans wear out since I spent a decent amount on the steel, and when they wear out, I'll replace the edge holders with new ls2 holders that I just got off eBay for cheap. The labour for the swap will be cheaper than buying new steal for these holders that seem very inconsistent when it comes to how steel fit in them.
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The holes do line up but the lhs that did mine said a couple had to be beveled a bit to ensure a property fit, so short answer is yes. As for the heel cup I left mine on and it was fine. I had edge holders put on twice with the cup by two different lhs without any issues. I'm not a fan of the edge holders though. I've had two sets and both there have been some issues with clicking steel. Although the play is minimal, once I burn through my new set of tydans, I am going to put ls2 holders on them and not have to worry about loose steel.
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That doesn't look good at all, even if it is just cosmetic. Not sure what the deal with True/VH regarding their QC and attention to detail. It's quite disappointing to receive that after waiting weeks and spending 1000+ on them. Hopefully the fit issue will be resolved with baking them properly.
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I found mine felt best with superfeet alone without the red footbeds. It's all personal preference. I personally found the stock footbeds too spongey.
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If you are getting the stock step holder, pay the extra to get blacksteel. The stock step steel is far more superior than the ls4 (which they won't have for the step holder since Bauer doesn't make any steel for the step holder) If you're insistent on the ls4, get tuuks put on, especially if that's what you're used to using. It'll save you the hassle and money of swapping holders in the future. Sorry I re read your post and I'm assuming you meant the ls edge holders when you said ls4. In that case. Get the boot only and get the tuuks added on after. Most shops will do the labour for free or minimal charge if you get the holders from them.
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That is why it is recommended that you use a shoe horn whenever u put on the skates during the heat molding process. I also read that happened to another member on this thread for his goal skates and vh recommended just using loctite gel super glue to glue the liner back on. Hth I also am going through an adjustment period regarding stopping and turning. A bit frustrating and only time will tell if these are better suited for me than my trusty Bauer's.
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Anyone know if swapping holders more than a couple times will compromise the strength of the outsole of the boot? Or are the true skates not really susceptible to this due to it's monocoque boot and not having a separate outsole that's softer like Bauer does.
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Found it..
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What do you mean you haven't received the merchandise. As in you haven't received all of what you technically paid for (the step holder and heel cup)? I rmbr seeing a picture on Instagram where some guys feet were so big they didn't have a toe box made for that size so his toe box was a carbon toe and the rest of the boot was actually still the vh style. Looked weird.... Going to try to find it now.
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Did you follow up with True about the issue. I would be interested to see why they have to say about it. I think you have a very good case to complain about. If you paid by credit card, I wonder if you're protected at all by the card company with something like this?
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I found the best fit was no red insole with superfeet. Maybe try no red insole with stock footbeds. But without the red insole you may run into the arch pain that was relieved when you cut the red footbed.
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I found the best fit was no red insole with superfeet. Maybe try no red insole with stock footbeds. But without the red insole you may run into the arch pain that was relieved when you cut the red footbed.
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Personally, I still think it's the retailers fault. Like you said, they were the ones that were slow to respond. If they had looked into the delay when you first reached out to them it would have been resolved at that time. Could true have contacted the retailer as well, sure. But the fact the retailer took so long to get back to you, I doubt they would have been any quicker responding to True as well.
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I'll admit I didn't like the vh skate when I first saw them but was intrigued solely by the performance and fit reviews. I actually like the last gen vh skates better than the trues but for me comfort and performance over looks. Looks wise, they've grown on me for sure. I guess it depends what you are looking for in a skate. If you have no issues with off the shelf skates then obviously you should stick with what works, but for most people who end up trying the vh/true skates it's because they've never had a skate that fit them well or was comfortable. Personally I got the skates out of mere curiosity. I never really had issues with my one100s that I had for the last seven years. The reason I chose to try out the True skate was because of the price. I would be spending the same amount on any high end skate, so I might as well try the custom route. I will say, however, that I probably should have tried the 1x and 1s skates as well since I haven't tried any of those lines on since I got my one100 years ago. That way I probably could have made a more informed decision. At the end of the day I'm happy with my purchase. The only issue that I'm running into now is whether the tuuk edge holders I have recently put on will hold up. I already have to warranty the left one due to clicking since day one. I am going to give it a couple months and if it's not a one off issue, I will likely switch back to the step holder or go with the ls2.
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If true never got your order or scans what it's there for them to look into? I guess they could contacted the dealer if you provided them with their info but I'm it seems to me that the dealer was the one lacking the follow-up
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If you're going to put on tuuks it will feel pretty neutral. The stock step holders def have a more forward pitch.
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The lhs that did mine said the holes match but the size or the holes needed to be beveled a bit to accommodate. So it's likely the holes line up very close but not identical. I wonder if it's going to be an issue if I try to reverse it back to the step holders.
