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[sherwood21 0]

Coldplay has a couple of the finest musicians I've seen. The piano player is excellent, as is the guitar player. Coldplay is deffinently one if the most musically sounds bands around right now, and to same they're horrible musicians and overplayed is absolute BS.

While im not a coldplay fan, i have alot of respect for the band. Every single one of them is very very good at what they do.

As for 50cent, when all you talk about is bitches, cars, and money, how could you consider yourself to be a musician? As for crack and hoes, please. If he sold drugs or smoked crack do you think he would be making music? He is way to much in the medias eye for him to ever even think about that. The one thing he's got going for him is marketing. Thats it.

Ummm I guess your one of those people that just says stuff and believes its true eh? If you actually looked up stuff on 50 you would see that he did really sell drugs because he was in jail for selling drugs..and you can't just make that up. I am getting sick and tired of people who don't like rap saying stuff like "there fake" "they aren't real gangstas" unless you know the man personally anything you hear is rumors. It seems to me that people get pissed off that rap is so popular and find anyway they can to bash it. You don't see people jumping all over punk people and you can make the same sace for them, that its just image that makes them money.

marketing

n 1: the exchange of goods for an agreed sum of money [syn: selling, merchandising] 2: the commercial processes involved in promoting and selling and distributing a product or service; "most companies have a manager in charge of marketing" 3: shopping at a market; "does the weekly marketing at the supermarket"

hype

Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion: the hype surrounding the murder trial.

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put 2 + 2 together, those are what make up 50. He's an ass clown and it pains me to see people like him having such huge, followings while other talented bands get nothing and have the priviledge of touring in a 1986 Caravan. At least they do it for the music...

...as for the punk's, are you kidding me?

The whole "punk" community has to be the most over scrutinized joke of a "family" in the whole world. I don't know of more than 3 other groups who get made fun of as much as the 'punk's'. I'd have to agree with those having beef with those people, those people are elitist asses who live their lives by making fun of the bands other people listen to. I'd love to hear of the bands you are talking about when you say it's the image that makes money.

[pantherfan 0]

50CENT will always be better than coldplay mainly because i like rap/hiphop/rnb and dislike indie/emo/rock/metal

I think it was just a coincidence that their lyrics were similar

[kosydar 0]

...As long as we're talking about lyrics, maybe you guys could help me out here:

My "female friend" and I were filing through my playlist on my computer the other day when "Brick" by Ben Folds Five came on.  Now, I can't say I remember exactly what her argument was, but, from what I've gathered listening to the song, and now reading the lyrics, I contested that it was about he and his "female friend" terminating her pregnancy (abortion).  Any other thoughts?  http://www.benfoldsfive.com/lyrics/whatever_03.html

Back onto the original topic:  I find most rap to be offensive, crude and ignorant (this coming from a 17 year old hockey player who has spent the majority of his time at the rink since the age of 4...) - I do, however, enjoy Coldplay's music.

Yep its about him and his girlfriend getting an abortion... in highschool I think? I think he says it on the live version of the song.

Damn. I always thought the song was about taking his dog to the vet.

Yeah, they had an abortion when they were seniors I think. Somebody gave a presentation on abortion in my religion/ethics class this past year and used that song. I always thought it was about her cancer or something, but I was way wrong.

And about 50 Cent selling his image- I do believe that for the most part he lived the life he claimed to. Maybe some of the details are exaggerated, but I bet it doesn't deviate too much from his real life. Obviously now he has no need to sell drugs, but he is still making money off that image. However, I think we all know that the one rapper who is still the same as before they were famous is Young Buck. He stabbed somebody.....at an awards show. Hes a good rapper, too, and I'm not a huge rap fan.

[cupcrazy16 0]

I think Fifty bit the hook off of Coldplay, lots of rappers take pieces out of other songs from different genres. IMO 50 just heard Coldplay's disc and decided to use it.

I like both Coldplay and 50, but their latest albums, XandY and Massacre were both dissapointing. 50 cent's music has really been weak as of late. I agree that Dr. Dre is the reason behind Fifty's success among listeners.

[Dangles 0]

I like both Coldplay and 50, but their latest albums, XandY and Massacre were both dissapointing.

Really? I was impressed with X & Y. I must agree with you on the Massacre though.

[LkptTiger 1]

I always thought it was about her cancer or something, but I was way wrong. 

...Now that I think about it, that was my girlfriend's thought, too...

[Thockey17 1]

I am getting sick and tired of people who don't like rap saying stuff like "there fake" "they aren't real gangstas" unless you know the man personally anything you hear is rumors. It seems to me that people get pissed off that rap is so popular and find anyway they can to bash it.

Who ever said that i dont like rap? I listen to rap, yes. But i dont listen to any of the mainstream crap. I could give 2 shits about rap being so popular, hell im glad that some of these guys are making it out of "the ghetto". But 50 gets none of my musical respect. He just keeps pounding out the rhymes consisting of bitches/money/cars/drugs over and over and over. As far as his marketing the guy got verylucky that eminem liked the way he rapped. Seriously, where would he be without em/dre's help?

[trucks 0]

..and both are absolutely horrible, horrible musician(s), who put out brutal and overplayed pieces of music.

/rant

WOW! Are you serious buddy? Ya I'll agree with u one that about 50 Cent, but Coldplay has a couple of the finest musicians I've seen. The piano player is excellent, as is the guitar player. Coldplay is deffinently one if the most musically sounds bands around right now, and to same they're horrible musicians and overplayed is absolute BS.

What are you talking about there the most musically sound bands. I just read in blender that they dont even consider themselves good musicians. they may sound good to you but as for musically sound i dont believe theyll be known in 30 years as some of the greatest musicians of our time and thats what i consider a good musician, the ones you remember.

[sweetblazer 0]

I am getting sick and tired of people who don't like rap saying stuff like "there fake" "they aren't real gangstas" unless you know the man personally anything you hear is rumors. It seems to me that people get pissed off that rap is so popular and find anyway they can to bash it.

Who ever said that i dont like rap? I listen to rap, yes. But i dont listen to any of the mainstream crap. I could give 2 shits about rap being so popular, hell im glad that some of these guys are making it out of "the ghetto". But 50 gets none of my musical respect. He just keeps pounding out the rhymes consisting of bitches/money/cars/drugs over and over and over. As far as his marketing the guy got verylucky that eminem liked the way he rapped. Seriously, where would he be without em/dre's help?

Once again your saying things without knowing what actually happened. If you look here http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/50_cent/bio.jhtml you will see that there was a huge bidding race on what label was going to sign 50, and Em and De had to go into the 7 digits to get him.

[asdfa 0]

50's underground stuff was good, as was his first album. it doesn't hurt that he has the "dopest" producer lol. 50's good at what he does, it's just that what he does (namely rap about superficial stuff as well as "beefing" with other rappers) is bad in general.

a good rapper is Royce da 5'9. people who like rap should check him out, he used to ghost write for Eminem and shady-aftermath, but they had a dispute about money or something so they split up and now he's mad at em.

[sherwood21 0]

A good rapper is Immortal Technique. A bad rapper is 50 cent. That's all there is to it.

As for Coldplay being great/good musicians, 2 bands off the top of my head with piano/synth's are Something Corporate and Zolof. I don't even like those bands, but I guarantee you they are better musically. And there is not a very good chance of you being able to gauge an artist's talent level without listening to jam sessions and unreleased demo's.

[Dangles 0]

A good rapper is Immortal Technique. A bad rapper is 50 cent. That's all there is to it.

No, it's not all there is to it. Music can either be a trend, and you like what other people like, or you like your own personal preference.

[Eazy_b97 1]

50 seems to stick to a very simple formula to sell records in my opinion. He seems to throw out songs which have similar beats and rhythms. He is not very versatile (IMO) and he just seems to fit perfectly what Rap is right now. The larger Rap seems to grow in popularity, the less imaginative and unique it becomes. I listen to a wide variety of music, but don't really focus in on one certain genre. I think alot of people follow these Rappers blindly, like most people will follow a band, and don't seem to pick out what the like and what they dislike.

[sherwood21 0]

A good rapper is Immortal Technique. A bad rapper is 50 cent. That's all there is to it.

No, it's not all there is to it. Music can either be a trend, and you like what other people like, or you like your own personal preference.

In terms of talent level, versatility (as Eazy mentioned) rhyming, flow, etc, 50 is not there. Immortal is. That is all there is to it. It has nothing to do with PP, all to do with analysis.

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[A_Steeves12 0]

wow i downloaded some of Royce da 5'9 stuff. it's amazing!

[MNGopherFan09 0]

Well, I am glad some people realize how talentless 50 is. All of my friends worship the guy and it drives me nuts. Like I said before, if you want a guy with fast, crazy flow, listen to Tech N9ne; you will not be dissapointed.

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

50's horrible. But he is mainstream, and that is what sells records.

[Dangles 0]

In terms of talent level, versatility (as Eazy mentioned) rhyming, flow, etc, 50 is not there. Immortal is. THAT is all there is to it. It has nothing to do with PP, all to do with analysis.

I don't actually think you're seeing my point. What I understand your saying is 50 sucks, Immortal is good. That's just like saying Easton sucks, Bauer is the way to go. There has to be something to back up besides, flow, versatility etc...you ned to give specific examples.

[sherwood21 0]

I don't understand Dangles. What do I need to give a specific example of? I don't listen to rap, and am by no means an expert on the subject, but what I am saying is that he is an ass clown, but a lucky one at that due to him selling so many records by having a rediculously similar beat and flow to each and every song.

[Eazy_b97 1]

The way I understand it is, Sherwood and JR, both are saying he sells because of his surroundings. People picked up his first record, and since then its sold far beyond his talent level. Basically he is selling himself, and his people are buying his name and image, not his music.

What Dangels is saying is correct, music is personal prefrence. He is not "bad" in general, but the majority of people buying the record don't fully understand why they like him.

[kosydar 0]

Now that 50 is, like JR said, mainstream, it seems like he is more concerned with the business aspect of it and controlling G-Unit, and not the actual rap.

A good lesser known rapper is Andre Nickatina.

The whole rap industry is very interesting to me. My next door neighbors are all in a group, and they have a recording studio in their place. On a local level, they have been very successful. They don't rap about ho's and drugs, or being badass (even though a few of them are), and they don't try to sell any sort of image. They just do what they do for their love of music, and so far they've been rewarded for it. A few weeks ago they signed a new contract with a record label in New York. These are some of the nicest guys I've ever met, which isn't what you'd expect from rappers.

[Dangles 0]

What Dangels is saying is correct, music is personal prefrence. He is not "bad" in general, but the majority of people buying the record don't fully understand why they like him.

I agree completely. The customer is buying the music is simply because they like. They may or may not know the lyrics or what the artist is saying. *I know I have read may lyrics to find out what artists are saying and some of them are mind-boggling*

[Gongshow11 1]

good rapper- Big L

bad rapper-50, fat joe

[Chadd 916]

Damn, four pages is a lot more attention than these "artists" deserve based on their talent.

[Dangles 0]

Damn, four pages is a lot more attention than these "artists" deserve based on their talent.

So you're saying that all bands/artists mentioned in this topic like 50 Cent, Coldplay, Tech N9ne ( which I downloaded and is alright ), and all those other people we talked about are not to your liking?