sonsplayhockey 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 How do you change the curve on a new blade? torch, heat gun?Need to get my son a new stick and the only ones in his size have curves I don't like and want to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 I always used a torch but you can delaminate the blade if you don't heat it evenly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overtime 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 so recurving a wood blade won't weaken it like it will on composite rite?And is it ok to heat a hybrid blade. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonsplayhockey 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 BTW, these are cheap little $15 or $20 kids size sticks. Blades are wood, with fiberglass on top and usually painted black or red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsGoWings13 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 id use a heat gun i have never delaminated a blade with one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonsplayhockey 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 Any more explanation on the bending process?Heat, bend, how do you bend it? Hands, oven mit?How to "set" the bend?Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 You want to heat it slowly and evenly. Make the change to the curve in small increments and hold them until the blade cools and the curve holds. An oven mitt is a good idea. Recurving wood blades will reduce the durability slightly. It isn't recommended for hybrids since they are a composite material and heating/curving will destroy any durability in the blade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twiztidwrista10 3 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 I useually heat up both sides of the blade evenly over the stove. Moving the blade slowly back and forth trying to heat it evenly. Then ill put the blade under a door or a stove or a fridge, ect and bend it or twist it to make the blade more open/closed or more or less curve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oggie Grip 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Don't recommend changing the curve if it a composite. Most composites are made from thermoset materials. These are typically epoxy resins that are combined with wood, glass fibers, kevlar, etc to give them additional strength.Thermoset means that once the epoxy has cured in its desired shape, that it cannot be re-cured without causing noticable structural instability to the blade. This goes for both wood solid core composites as well as hollow core woven fiber composites.Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overtime 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Gee thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#96 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Spraying with water can cool sections down while you work with other sections. However, be careful how/where you spray, as warping can be an issue. I used to stick the finished product in the freezer for a bit too. Haven't done it in awhile since I started using composites. Watching the Oilers game, Chicken Parm was saying that he talked to Smyth and that he gets all his wood blades in straight curves. Then he takes them and works on the curves himself. He doesn't like having the companies do them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Spraying with water can cool sections down while you work with other sections. However, be careful how/where you spray, as warping can be an issue. I used to stick the finished product in the freezer for a bit too. Haven't done it in awhile since I started using composites. Watching the Oilers game, Chicken Parm was saying that he talked to Smyth and that he gets all his wood blades in straight curves. Then he takes them and works on the curves himself. He doesn't like having the companies do them. Interesting, that's not what one of the people who used to supply him said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#96 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Dunno, take it up with Ray Ferraro, lol. But that's what he said...he likes to tinker alot, so he gets them almost straight, then will change them himself.Maybe it's a new thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jason@ewh 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 you could use boiling or super hot water or I think it was steam.. If I can remember..I had a NHL trainer tell me that once. I havent got a clue about a hy-brid though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 i get good blades with shitty curves here, no modanos except tapered ones, and even to them i add a bit of toe. so what i do is take a heat gun to them, step on the parts i want to curve, then run it under cold water.some guy on my team found 12 bauer 3030s in lindros curve in our equipment room, heats it up with heat gun, removes the curve, cold water, then heats it again and steps on it to get a huge heel. worst curve and lie ever IMo, but works for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cage 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Anything like this ProCurve worth the money or effort? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reaper 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Anything like this ProCurve worth the money or effort? I think I am going to get myself one of those Pro-Curve blade curvers next month some time as I'm having trouble finding the exact curve and toe shape on the same blade. I like a square toe, open face heel curve with very little depth to it. I think the only way I'm going to find it is to do it myself or get customs made. I guess I could go the custom route but I'm a bit of a tinkerer so I'd like to be able to make finer adjustments to a blade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes_86 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 A friend got me the Pro Curve tool years ago and at first i was skeptical, but once i used it ...i was hooked. I used to use a weird Hespeller offset blade with a Gretzky curve....hated his curve. So I would heat up the blade with a heat gun...pop it into the tool....slowly crank on it to get a 1/2 mid curve with an open toe. once it was set i would throw some hockey tape on it so none of the settings would slip if bumped or something...then i tossed it into the snow for 30 min to cool down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Whenever I curve my sticks, the wrap always seems to warp on me, any remedies for this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktang 34 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Whenever I curve my sticks, the wrap always seems to warp on me, any remedies for this? I find that the fibreglass wrap on Easton wood blades delaminates easily when heated (easier than other manufacturers' blades). Also, if the blade shape is changed radically, the wrap will delaminate because the concave and convex surfaces are stretching so much. I don't think the polyester resin can accomodate that much stretching.So I peel it off entirely, curve the blade, cool the blade entirely, and put on new fibreglass wrap with new resin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#96 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 That used to happen to me with Easton blades. Everytime. You go to make your curve (I would normally take curve out of a blade, so I'd just step on it or put it in a vice) and bam, the lam would just come right off. Usually starting at the top too. It was like they didn't wrap all the way around or something. I switched to Christian PuckMaster Detroit/Fedorov patterns after that, and those things were great to alter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Branches blades were the easiest for me to manipulate but I can see the Christian blades being pretty easy as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go Pio's 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Steaming the blade is the best way to get an even curve. This is how most companies curve their blades. The blades are put into a steam bath and then curved over a metal pole (for customs) or a machine that has a bladder that inflates the curve into place. The one problem with steaming is that if you do not let the blade adequately dry, the blades tend to lose their shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badsk8ter 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 This may sound like a dumb question but how much steam is needed? Is it possible to rig up something with the blade sitting over a boiling pot of water to produce enough steam needed in order to change the curve? Also, how long does it take for the blade to adequately dry and how can you tell when it is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ogie Oglethorpe 14 Report post Posted November 9, 2005 Whenever I curve my sticks, the wrap always seems to warp on me, any remedies for this? I wrapped mine with black hockey tape first, then applied the heat to the tape. Once the tape started to "brown", I knew that the blade should be pliable enough. That kept the laminant in place for the most part and kept it from bubbling. I never had a problem with warpage when I went this route.Plus, when cooling it down with water, the water didn't touch the wood in case any of the 'pours' from the laminent weave was still open from the heat.Once happy, I applied a thin layer of clear coat spray paint - just in case.This may sound like a dumb question but how much steam is needed? Is it possible to rig up something with the blade sitting over a boiling pot of water to produce enough steam needed in order to change the curve? Also, how long does it take for the blade to adequately dry and how can you tell when it is? I wouldn't use steam myself. Water is the enemy of wood. As alluded to above, heat might cause pours within the clear coat/laminent and you don't want to expose the wood to moisture if you can avoid it.Just go to Home Depot, Lowes, etc and invest $20 in a heat gun, or put it over your stove burner (heat gun is far, far superior though).Try not to let open flame touch the blade. That will likely cause blistering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites